HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Global Projects & Construction > Proposals


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #361  
Old Posted Mar 10, 2023, 1:06 AM
summersm343's Avatar
summersm343 summersm343 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 18,365
I think the tower is 930,000 square feet of office space. Dechert was only looking for 200-300,000 if I'm not mistaken. That means we would likely need another tenant to commit to 200-300,000 sq ft of space to get financing to get this off of the ground. Unless interest rates come back down, financing loosens, and the lab/life sciences demand here is so strong that they think they could lease the bottom floors to those uses and build on spec or getting an anchor tenant in that field, we're going to wait on another anchor tenant to come along for this to get off of the ground unfortunately.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #362  
Old Posted Aug 31, 2023, 2:25 AM
TK2001's Avatar
TK2001 TK2001 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Not your business
Posts: 2,485
3001 JFK fence and Avira by Philly SkyGuy, on Flickr
Small update, but there's new fencing around the site
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #363  
Old Posted Aug 31, 2023, 1:37 PM
Dan1 Dan1 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 68
Unfortunately, the Expected Delivery has changed to "Shovel-ready". So it doesn't look like they're moving forward in the immediate future.

https://schuylkillyards.com/lease-sp...-jfk-boulevard
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #364  
Old Posted Aug 31, 2023, 2:07 PM
Gatorade_Jim's Avatar
Gatorade_Jim Gatorade_Jim is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Center City, Philadelphia
Posts: 506
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan1 View Post
Unfortunately, the Expected Delivery has changed to "Shovel-ready". So it doesn't look like they're moving forward in the immediate future.

https://schuylkillyards.com/lease-sp...-jfk-boulevard
Yeah I mean it's a 600 foot office building. Without an anchor tenant I'm not sure how that would pencil out at the moment. Hopefully they can convert it to a residential/commercial mix that works.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #365  
Old Posted Sep 1, 2023, 11:31 PM
Aether Aether is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Posts: 40
That's exactly what I've been saying. I think they should take a page out of the previous tower right next door part office bought residential or maybe throw in a hotel or some lab space. I'd love the hotel and residential option. The city needs a new hotel
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #366  
Old Posted Sep 2, 2023, 6:20 PM
Mr Saturn64's Avatar
Mr Saturn64 Mr Saturn64 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Philly
Posts: 1,056
This building is listed as under construction on the diagrams, and is also listed as being 670 feet tall.
__________________
Go Phillies!⚾ 🦅Fly Eagles Fly!🦅 🏀Trust the Process!🏀 🏒Go Flyers!🏒

Save the SS United States!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #367  
Old Posted Sep 2, 2023, 8:57 PM
Gatorade_Jim's Avatar
Gatorade_Jim Gatorade_Jim is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Center City, Philadelphia
Posts: 506
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Saturn64 View Post
This building is listed as under construction on the diagrams, and is also listed as being 670 feet tall.
What diagrams are you referening?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #368  
Old Posted Sep 3, 2023, 12:11 AM
Mr Saturn64's Avatar
Mr Saturn64 Mr Saturn64 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Philly
Posts: 1,056
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gatorade_Jim View Post
What diagrams are you referening?
The ones on this website
__________________
Go Phillies!⚾ 🦅Fly Eagles Fly!🦅 🏀Trust the Process!🏀 🏒Go Flyers!🏒

Save the SS United States!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #369  
Old Posted Sep 3, 2023, 5:15 AM
Philly Fan Philly Fan is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,480
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gatorade_Jim View Post
What diagrams are you referening?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Saturn64 View Post
The ones on this website

https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=326
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #370  
Old Posted Sep 4, 2023, 9:26 AM
mrnyc mrnyc is offline
cle/west village/shaolin
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 11,723
that is such an interesting development area around the railyards.

is there a master plan for around there? with other possible development sites? and any talk of caps maybe?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #371  
Old Posted Sep 4, 2023, 1:57 PM
jaysb jaysb is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: S.Hill
Posts: 309
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrnyc View Post
that is such an interesting development area around the railyards.

is there a master plan for around there? with other possible development sites? and any talk of caps maybe?
Indeed. There are two. Schuylkill Yards which is currently in progress (all of the buildings you see going up ) and a rail cap which is probably far off.

https://www.som.com/news/30th-street...yards-by-2050/
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #372  
Old Posted Sep 4, 2023, 9:47 PM
Gatorade_Jim's Avatar
Gatorade_Jim Gatorade_Jim is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Center City, Philadelphia
Posts: 506
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysb View Post
Indeed. There are two. Schuylkill Yards which is currently in progress (all of the buildings you see going up ) and a rail cap which is probably far off.

https://www.som.com/news/30th-street...yards-by-2050/
It's hard to look at that and not immediately think of River North in Chicago. Exciting times ahead.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #373  
Old Posted Sep 19, 2023, 10:43 PM
PHLtoNYC PHLtoNYC is offline
Chris
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Earth
Posts: 1,975
Disappointing update (though not surprising), but sounds like Brandywine is committed to this project.

I wonder if Brandywine considered a hotel for a portion of the building.

Brandywine CEO Jerry Sweeney 'reading economic tea leaves,' won't build next Schuylkill Yards tower on spec
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...-3001-jfk.html

Philadelphia-based Brandywine (NYSE: BDN) is relaunching marketing efforts for its planned 800,000-square-foot East Tower at 3001 John F. Kennedy Blvd., but it's waiting to begin construction until the building is at least 50% pre-leased and the company has confidence in market conditions.

“Given its significant size, given the state of the overall U.S. economy, the volatility in interest rates and uncertainty in financing, we would not start that project without a significant pre-lease and visibility on both additional leases being signed and financing certainty,” Brandywine CEO Jerry Sweeney said, “because that project is simply too big for us to take on in this kind of climate.”
The 34-story building would include 550,000 square feet of office space and 250,000 square feet of life sciences space. Sweeney said marketing for the office space is geared toward financial services companies.

Waiting for lease commitments before beginning construction is a change from the first two buildings in the $3.5 billion, 14-acre Schuylkill Yards master-planned project that’s being developed in partnership with Drexel University. The first two buildings were built speculatively without tenants lined up in advance.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #374  
Old Posted Sep 20, 2023, 11:17 AM
arkitect13 arkitect13 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: philadelphia
Posts: 388
^^ I do think that at this point they should just switch to another use, Hotel and life sciences would be interesting. They keep waiting for an office teneant who probably isnt going to come
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #375  
Old Posted Sep 20, 2023, 1:34 PM
PHLtoNYC PHLtoNYC is offline
Chris
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Earth
Posts: 1,975
Quote:
Originally Posted by arkitect13 View Post
^^ I do think that at this point they should just switch to another use, Hotel and life sciences would be interesting. They keep waiting for an office teneant who probably isnt going to come
Agree. A hotel would do very well (combined with life sciences/research).
The location is great and quickly improving, thousands of workers and visitors in the immediate area, and a well connected spot via transit or highway access.

And Brandywine could convince Stephen Starr to open a cool restaurant concept.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #376  
Old Posted Sep 20, 2023, 2:39 PM
Redddog Redddog is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 1,400
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aether View Post
... The city needs a new hotel
The city needs 3 new hotels.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #377  
Old Posted Sep 20, 2023, 5:25 PM
DeltaNerd DeltaNerd is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 297
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redddog View Post
The city needs 3 new hotels.
Hot take: If the 76ers place is going to be built. It should be a hotel and not affordable housing.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #378  
Old Posted Sep 20, 2023, 6:01 PM
Knight Hospitaller's Avatar
Knight Hospitaller Knight Hospitaller is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Greater Philadelphia
Posts: 2,864
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redddog View Post
The city needs 3 new hotels.
And the rehab of the Family Court doesn't count, because it won't happen in time to meet immediate needs.
__________________
Paterfamilias
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #379  
Old Posted Sep 20, 2023, 6:08 PM
Knight Hospitaller's Avatar
Knight Hospitaller Knight Hospitaller is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Greater Philadelphia
Posts: 2,864
Quote:
Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC View Post
Agree. A hotel would do very well (combined with life sciences/research).
The location is great and quickly improving, thousands of workers and visitors in the immediate area, and a well connected spot via transit or highway access.

And Brandywine could convince Stephen Starr to open a cool restaurant concept.
A no brainer in a burgeoning U. City. The former Hilton/Penn Tower and Sheraton used to be the only games in that part of town. There are more options now, but positioned mainly to serve the universities. Having a hotel right next to 30Th St. Station, and across from the westward expansion of Center City, would serve a submarket with only one other option of which I'm aware (the a/k/a in the FMC tower - which is not remotely as well located at the JFK site).
__________________
Paterfamilias
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #380  
Old Posted Dec 15, 2023, 6:33 PM
TK2001's Avatar
TK2001 TK2001 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Not your business
Posts: 2,485
Just noticed something else on this site. There's a temporary building set up as the construction office for 3001 JFK
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Global Projects & Construction > Proposals
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 7:52 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.