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Old Posted Aug 31, 2022, 12:48 AM
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Skyline Measurement

Disclaimer: this is not meant to be a pissing contest. It is meant as a resource for our community. And for fun.

That said:

Let’s crowdsource skyline sizes as they grow!

The list below is a kind of “skyline measurement” of almost every major skyline in the United States, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. This is a good start, and is a hand-counted amalgamation of sources (inc. CTBUH and Wiki, and most heavily on SSP) and the numbers represent roughly all towers over 300’ in each skyline. As such, this list is highly incomplete. Let’s correct and refine it!

I would love help expanding and refining this data as well, which is why I am posting this. You’ll notice that the height datapoints I’d like are missing for many. Anyone down to help add those? Also, for any cities that have more than one separate skyline, let’s separate out those numbers and talk about where those boundaries should be?

Format:

Metropolitan Region:
• City (Skyline): X (Y) [A, B, C]
• City (Isolates): X (Y) {Z}

Where:
X—# of completed, topped out, and under construction;
Y—# currently under construction;
A—height of tallest in X;
B—average height of (up to) 10 tallest in X;
C—average height of all in X;
Z—a range of heights (see more below).
Why these? X includes towers under construction because, well, they almost always finish that construction (notwithstanding some high profile examples), so this list essentially captures the skylines in the size as they will be when what is currently in development is finished. Y is important so you can see where there is development heat. Links to cities development threads can also give you a sense of future potential developments. A represents the peak of the skyline, B represents the heft, and C represents the breadth. The higher these numbers are, the larger that skyline will generally appear.

Please omit any null data (I.E. 0s or redundant info, e.g. when A=B=C) unless when including that data is informative (e.g. a skyline which is notable, but which does not have any peaks over 300’).


Example:

San Antonio
• San Antonio (Downtown): 15 (1) [750’, 444’, 418’]
1. Tower of the Americas, 750’
2. Marriott Rivercenter, 546’
3. Weston Centre, 444’
4. Grand Hyatt, 424’
5. Tower Life Building, 404’
6. Frost Tower, 400’
*7. 300 Main, 400’ (U/C)
8. Bank of America Plaza, 387’
9. Marriott Riverwalk, 348’
10. Drury Plaza, 341’
11. InterContinental San Antonio, 325’
12. Nix Professional Building, 323’
13. The Arts Residences / Thompson Hotel, 314’
14. AT&T Building, 310’
15. City Tower, 300’
• San Antonio (Medical Center): 1 [300’]
1. Wurzbach Tower, 300’
• San Antonio {Isolates}: 1 {368’}
1. The Tower on Park Lane, 368’

Order Hierarchy:
1. metropolitan regions are listed in order of X number of buildings in their largest skyline;
2. for two or more regions whose largest skylines comprise the same X, if they have the same number of distinct skylines, they are listed by the tallest building in their largest skylines;
3. if the number of distinct skylines differs between them, the metropolitan region with more distinct skylines will be the higher ranked;
4. isolated towers are only used as a final tiebreaker.
Ideally: I would like to include all metropolitan regions with at least one skyline comprising 10+ ‘total’ 300’+ towers (X), and should also include all distinct skylines in that metropolitan region with 5+ towers (X) at a minimum—smaller nodes (those with fewer than 5 300’+ towers) do exist and should be broken out accordingly (note that I have included a skyline with 0). Ask yourself this question: is this potentially isolated tower surrounded by a number of buildings in the 150-300 foot range or is this tower surrounded by low lying structures? If it is the former, it is likely the peak of a small skyline; if it is the latter, it is likely an isolated tower:

Isolated Towers: the sum of all remaining 300’+ buildings which are markedly geographically isolated from other such towers and thus do not contribute to the visual impression of that skyline, but do contribute to the visual impression of the broader cityscape. Instead of using A, B, and C as indicators of skyline height, use Z:
Z—range of isolate heights (e.g. {305’-455’})
Distinct Skylines: to the best of your ability, please consider what appears as a single skyline versus what appears as multiple. When standing atop a mountain, you can see other mountains in the distance and clearly differentiate them from the land beneath you and the trees in between. Similarly, when standing atop the highest building in a peak or highest point of a plateau, you can discern the difference between those buildings which comprise a mountainous skyline in the distance and those that are scattered like isolated trees in between.

Last Call: metropolitan areas NOT marked by asterisks are recently updated and there is a reasonable confidence that the numbers are within an acceptable margin of error.

**Incomplete Data:** help fill it in! The heights A, B, and C, for instance.

Recurring Updates: has a tower broken ground somewhere, post new construction updates here so that I can update the list. Of course, I will attempt to keep track as threads change status, as well. Mods: y’all specifically can help with this endeavor if you would be gracious enough for a courtesy post when you update thread titles and folder locations from proposed to under construction and then to completed.

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**New York City**
• *Manhattan (Midtown): 732 (16)*
• *Manhattan (Downtown): 169 (3)*
• *Jersey City, etc.: 47*
• *Brooklyn (Downtown): 41 (1)*
• *Queens (Long Island City): 36 (3)*
• *Newark: 11*

**Toronto**
• *Toronto (Downtown)*
• *Mississauga (Downtown)*
• *Mississauga (Eglinton)*
• etc.


**Chicago** 405 (4)
**Brisbane [OUT]** 196 (3)
**Melbourne** 186 (4)

**South Florida**
• Miami: 176 (26) [902’, 781’, *C’*]
• *Sunny Isles Beach, etc.: 70 (1)*
• *Fort Lauderdale: 16*
• Miami Beach: 19 (1) [546’, 422’, ~391’]
• Kendall: 3 [314’, 309’]
• Coral Gables: 1 [315’]
• *Others: X*

**Sydney**
• *Sydney (Downtown): 127 (7)*
• *Parramatta: 12 (3)*
• *North Sydney (Downtown): 10 (1)*
• *North Sydney (Crow’s Nest): 7 (3)*
• *Chatswood: 4*


**Bay Area**
• *San Francisco: 124*
• *Oakland: 13*
• San Jose: 0

**Vancouver**
• *Vancouver (Central City) 106 (9)*
• *Burnaby (Metrotown): 31 (4)*
• *Burnaby (Brentwood): 25 (8)*
• *Surrey: 19 (5)*
• *Coquitlam: 9 (1)*
• *New Westminster: 8 (3)*
• *Burnaby (Lougheed): 4 (1)*


**Calgary** 99 (3)
Honolulu 93 (3) [*A, B, C*]

**Seattle**
• *Seattle (Downtown): 84 (9)*
• *Bellevue: 14 (1)*

**Boston**
• *Boston (Downtown+Back Bay) + Cambridge: 82 (7)*
• Everett: 1 [350’]

**Philadelphia+Camden**
• *Philadelphia (Downtown+Camden): 81 (3)*
• Wilmington: 1 [360’]

**Montreal** 76 (11)
**Gold Coast** 70 (2)

**Houston**
• *Houston (Downtown+Midtown): 70 (3)*
• *Houston (Uptown+Galleria): 32*
• *Houston (Medical Center): 19*
• *Houston (Greenway+Kirby): 11*
• Galveston: 3 [382’, 374’]
• *The Woodlands: 1*

**DFW**
• *Dallas (Downtown+Uptown): 69 [921’, 730’, C’]*
• *Fort Worth: 12 (1)*
• Irving: 1 [*A*]
• Plano: 1 [*A*]

**Atlanta**
• *Atlanta (Downtown+Midtown): 69*
• *Atlanta (Buckhead): 30*

Los Angeles
• Los Angeles (Downtown): 64 (8) [1100’, 814’, 516’]
• Los Angeles (Century City): 17 [600’, 521’, 442’]
• Los Angeles (Westwood): 8 [427’, 312’]
• Long Beach: 5 [417’, 355’]
• Los Angeles (Koreatown): 4 (1) [454’, 378’]
• Los Angeles (Miracle Mile): 4 [433’, 354’]
• Los Angeles (West L.A.): 4 [334’, 309’]
• El Segundo: 3 [360’, 320’]
• Glendale: 3 [353’, 327’]
• Los Angeles (Universal City): 2 [506’, 430’]
• Irvine: 2 [323’]
• Newport Beach: 1 [315’]
• Santa Monica : 1 [300’]
• Los Angeles {Isolates}: 4 {305’-413’}
• Greater Los Angeles & Inland Empire {Isolates}: 3 {330’-460’}
• Inland Empire DTs (Riverside, San Bernardino, etc): 0

Austin
• Austin (Downtown+West Campus): 62 (13) [1022’, 714’, 433’]
• Austin (Domain): 1 (1) [330’]

Las Vegas
• *Las Vegas (Strip+Downtown): 57*
• Laughlin: 3 [337’, 317’]

**Denver** 47

Twin Cities
• Minneapolis: 42 (2) [792', 627', 436']
• St. Paul: 13 [471', 367', 331']
• Bloomington: 2 [381', 341']

Nashville 40 (7) [617’, 487’, 393’]
**San Diego** 39
**Detroit+Windsor** 38 (2)
**Pittsburgh** 34
**Charlotte** 32 (1)
**Baltimore** 31
**Perth** 29 (1)
**Edmonton** 27 (3)

New Orleans
• New Orleans (Downtown): 26 [697’, 513’, 415’]
• Metaerie (Causeway): 1 [403’]

**Auckland**: 22 (2)
**Cleveland** 22 (1)
**Cincinnati+Covington** 19
**Columbus** 19 (1)
**Atlantic City** 18
**Ottawa+Gatineau** 17 (1)
**Kansas City** 16
**Salt Lake City** 16 (3)
**Portland** 16 (1)
**Milwaukee** 15
**Tampa** 14

San Antonio
• San Antonio (Downtown): 15 (1) [750’, 444’, 418’]
• San Antonio (Medical Center): 1 [300’]
• San Antonio {Isolates}: 1 {368’}

**Phoenix**
• *Phoenix (Downtown): 13*
• *Phoenix (Midtown): 7*

**Indianapolis** 12

**St. Louis**
• *St. Louis (Downtown): 11*
• *Clayton (Downtown): 10*

**Louisville** 11
Oklahoma City 10 [844’, 448’]

Tulsa
• Tulsa (Downtown): 10 [667’, 428’]
• Tulsa {Isolates}: 1 {648’}

**Winnipeg** 10 (2)
**Richmond** 10
**Jacksonville** 10
**Hartford** 10
**Sacramento** 10
**Adelaide** 9
**Orlando** 9
**London** 9 (3)

Memphis
• Memphis (Downtown): 8 [430’, 356’]
• Tunica Resorts {Isolates}: 1 {317’}

Des Moines 8 [630’, 389’]
**Halifax+Dartmouth** 7 (3)
Albany 6 [589’, 370’]
Providence 6 [550’, 402’]
Little Rock 6 [547’, 395’]
Buffalo 6 [529’, 391’]
Birmingham 6 [454’, 386’]

**Niagara Falls** 5 + Niagara Falls 1 [358’]
Mobile 5 [745’, 439’]
Winston-Salem 5 [460’, 374’]
Toledo 5 [457’, 393’]
Rochester 5 [443’, 381’]
Dayton 5 [405’, 357’]
Orange Beach (AL) 5 [380’, 344’]

Reno 4 [410’, 352’] + Sparks 1 {342’}
Wellington 4 [381’, 339’]
Tamuning (Guam) 4 [~353’, ~322’]
**Kitchener+Waterloo** 4 (3)

Omaha 3 [634’, 476’]
Fort Wayne (IN) 3 [442’, 364’]
Corpus Christi 3 [411’, 341’]
Lexington 3 [410’, 351’]
Grand Rapids 3 [406’, 356’]
Springfield (MA) 3 [401’, 357’]
New Haven 3 [383’, 334’]
Canberra 3 [371’, 335’]
Columbia 3 [349’, 326’]
**Quebec City** 3

Baton Rouge 2 [460’, 385’]
South Padre 2 [403’, 364’]
Springfield (IL) 2 [400’, 380’]
Shreveport 2 [364’, 333’]
Lake Charles 2 [343’, 329’]
Biloxi 2 [342’, 336’]
Rochester (MN) 2 [342', 324']
Midland (TX) 2 [332’, 320’]
Akron 2 [330’, 323’]
Knoxville 2 [327’, 320’]
El Paso 2 [314’, 308’]
Peoria 2 [308’]
**Kelowna** 2

Lincoln 1 [398’]
Wichita 1 [385’]
Montgomery 1 [375’]
Amarillo 1 [374’]
Albuquerque 1 [361’]
Stamford 1 [350’]
Harrisburg 1 [341’]
San Juan 1 [334’]
South Bend 1 [331’]
Tucson 1 [330’]
Frankfort 1 [330’]
Myrtle Beach 1 [329’]
Topeka 1 [326’]
Darwin 1 [325’]
Allentown 1 [322’]
Jackson (MS) 1 [318’]
Boise 1 [315’]
Syracuse 1 [313’]
Greenville (SC) 1 [305’]
Chattanooga 1 [300’]
Florence (AL) 1 [300’]

Uncasville (CT) 1 {487’}
Bristol (CT) 1 {383’} *industrial use
Ledyard (CT) 1 {325’}
Philadelphia (MS) 1 {310’}

Fresno 0
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The data for anything below 800' is pretty inconsistent.

The data for anything below 500' is atrociously inconsistent.


People have been trying to accomplish similar for as long as SSP has been a thing.

But the data just isn't there.
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The data for anything below 800' is pretty inconsistent.

The data for anything below 500' is atrociously inconsistent.


People have been trying to accomplish similar for as long as SSP has been a thing.

But the data just isn't there.
Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. It may be inconsistent in places, but that doesn’t mean the picture we could create would be wholly off of reality. The bias would always be in the same direction and, generally speaking, of the same magnitude except in very specific cases. I know it’s kind of a background mission of this site, but… have we really given it the effort it deserves?

Just gotta have the right asterisks, man.
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Great idea! According to Wikipedia alone, Nashville has 33 towers 300 feet or more completed, 7 under construction, and another 32 in various stages of the proposal/approval process so it seems to me like it's total should be higher than 21.

So if I'm understanding it correctly, Nashville should be 40 (7) + 32

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_in_Nashville

Memphis has 8 completed, 0 of anything else.
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Opening Pandora's box dividing into sub skylines. There aren't always clear dividing lines making it highly subjective. Neither do I want any towers missed from the count. Chicago is too close for comfort.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/70...!4d-79.6160756

An example of two possible 300 footers in the middle of nowhere.
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Opening Pandora's box dividing into sub skylines. There aren't always clear dividing lines making it highly subjective. Neither do I want any towers missed from the count. Chicago is too close for comfort.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/70...!4d-79.6160756

An example of two possible 300 footers in the middle of nowhere.
Reminds me of Tao https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ta...!4d-80.3152868
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Here's what I've got for Los Angeles (city proper): buildings 300+ ft. built, topped out, and under construction:
  1. 1100 ft. 73 floors, Wilshire Grand Center, Ofc./Hotel, Downtown
  2. 1018 ft. 73 floors, U.S. Bank Tower, Ofc., Downtown
  3. 858 ft. 62 floors, Aon Center, Ofc., Downtown
  4. 760 ft. 60 floors, Olympic and Hill, Res., Downtown
  5. 750 ft. 54 floors, Two California Plaza, Ofc., Downtown
  6. 749 ft. 52 floors, Gas Company Tower, Ofc., Downtown
  7. 735 ft. 55 floors, Bank of America Plaza, Ofc., Downtown
  8. 725 ft. 52 floors, 777 Tower, Ofc., Downtown
  9. 723 ft. 54 floors, Wells Fargo Center, Ofc., Downtown
  10. 717 ft. 53 floors, Figueroa at Wilshire, Ofc., Downtown
  11. 699 ft. 52 floors, Figueroa at Wilshire, Ofc., Downtown
  12. 699 ft. 52 floors, Paul Hastings Tower, Ofc., Downtown
  13. 695 ft. 64 floors, The Beaudry, Res., Downtown
  14. 677 ft. 49 floors, Oceanwide Plaza Tower I, Res., Downtown
  15. 667 ft. 54 floors, The Ritz-Carlton Los Angeles, Hotel/Res., Downtown
  16. 647 ft. 58 floors, Metropolis Tower D, Res., Downtown
  17. 637 ft. 49 floors, 820 Olive, Res., Downtown
  18. 625 ft. 48 floors, FourFortyFour South Flower, Ofc., Downtown
  19. 620 ft. 42 floors, 611 Place, Ofc., Downtown
  20. 606 ft. 42 floors, KPMG Tower, Ofc., Downtown
  21. 600 ft. 46 floors, Century Plaza North Tower, Res., Century City (Los Angeles)
  22. 600 ft. 46 floors, Century Plaza South Tower, Res., Century City (Los Angeles)
  23. 578 ft. 42 floors, One California Plaza, Ofc., Downtown
  24. 571 ft. 44 floors, Century Plaza Tower I, Ofc., Century City (Los Angeles)
  25. 571 ft. 44 floors, Century Plaza Tower II, , Ofc., Century City (Los Angeles)
  26. 534 ft. 41 floors, Ernst & Young Plaza, Ofc., Downtown
  27. 533 ft. 39 floors, SunAmerica Center, Ofc., Century City (Los Angeles)
  28. 530 ft. 42 floors, Eighth & Fig, Res., Downtown
  29. 530 ft. 40 floors, Oceanwide Plaza Tower II, Res., Downtown
  30. 530 ft. 40 floors, Oceanwide Plaza Tower III, Res., Downtown
  31. 529 ft. 42 floors, Fig+Pico Tower I, Hotel, Downtown
  32. 529 ft. 40 floors, Hope+Flower Tower 1, Res., Downtown
  33. 522 ft. 39 floors, The Grand by Gehry, Res., Downtown
  34. 517 ft. 39 floors, TCW Tower, Ofc., Downtown
  35. 516 ft. 40 floors, Union Bank Plaza, Ofc., Downtown
  36. 506 ft. 36 floors, 10 Universal City Plaza, Ofc., Universal City (Los Angeles)
  37. 496 ft. 35 floors, 1100 Wilshire, Ofc., Downtown
  38. 492 ft. 34 floors, Fox Plaza, Ofc., Century City (Los Angeles)
  39. 491 ft. 35 floors, MGM Tower, Ofc., Century City (Los Angeles)
  40. 483 ft. 40 floors, 10000 Santa Monica, Res., Century City (Los Angeles)
  41. 478 ft. 41 floors, The Century, Res., Century City (Los Angeles)
  42. 463 ft. 33 floors, ARCO Tower, Ofc., Downtown
  43. 454 ft. 32 floors, Los Angeles City Hall, Ofc., Downtown
  44. 454 ft. 34 floors, Equitable Life Bldg., Ofc., Koreatown (Los Angeles)
  45. 452 ft. 32 floors, South Park Center, Ofc., Downtown
  46. 451 ft. 40 floors, Metropolis Tower C, Res., Downtown
  47. 448 ft. 17 floors, AT&T Switching Center, Ofc/Com., Downtown
  48. 442 ft. 48 floors, Metropolis Tower B, Res., Downtown
  49. 439 ft. 38 floors, Hallasan Tower, Res., Koreatown (Los Angeles)
  50. 433 ft. 32 floors, 5900 Wilshire, Ofc., Miracle Mile (Los Angeles)
  51. 427 ft. 29 floors, The Gayley at Wilshire, Res., Westwood (Los Angeles)
  52. 421 ft. 31 floors, Hope+Flower Tower 2, Res., Downtown
  53. 414 ft. 33 floors, MCI Center, Ofc., Downtown
  54. 413 ft. 25 floors, Warner Center III, Ofc., Woodland Hills (Los Angeles)
  55. 405 ft. 27 floors, MTA Building, Ofc., Downtown
  56. 400 ft. 35 floors, Circa Tower I, Res., Downtown
  57. 400 ft. 35 floors, Circa Tower II, Res., Downtown
  58. 398 ft. 28 floors, 1900 Avenue of the Stars, Ofc., Century City (Los Angeles)
  59. 395 ft. 35 floors, WaterMarke Tower, Res., Downtown
  60. 390 ft. 35 floors, Alloy, Res., Arts District/Downtown
  61. 381 ft. 24 floors, 801 Tower, Ofc., Downtown
  62. 375 ft. 26 floors, Mellon Bank Center, Ofc., Downtown
  63. 375 ft. 20 floors, Roybal Federal Building, Ofc., Downtown
  64. 375 ft. 32 floors, Level, Res., Downtown
  65. 374 ft. 34 floors, 888 Grand Hope Lofts, Res., Downtown
  66. 367 ft. 35 floors, Westin Bonaventure Hotel, Hotel, Downtown
  67. 365 ft. 29 floors, Beaudry Center, Ofc., Downtown
  68. 364 ft. 26 floors, 10100 Santa Monica, Ofc., Century City (Los Angeles)
  69. 363 ft. 28 floors, Blair House, Res., Westwood (Los Angeles)
  70. 363 ft. 28 floors, California Federal Savings & Loan Building, Ofc., Miracle Mile (Los Angeles)
  71. 363 ft. 21 floors, Center West, Ofc., Westwood (Los Angeles)
  72. 363 ft. 31 floors, The Evian, Res., Westwood (Los Angeles)
  73. 363 ft. 24 floors, Oppenheimer Tower, Ofc., Westwood (Los Angeles)
  74. 356 ft. 28 floors, Figueroa Tower, Ofc., Downtown
  75. 354 ft. 27 floors, Grand Promenade Apartments I, Res., Downtown
  76. 354 ft. 28 floors, Hilton Universal City & Towers, Universal City (Los Angeles)
  77. 352 ft. 33 floors, 801 Olive Street, Res., Downtown
  78. 351 ft. 28 floors, 550 South Hope, Ofc., Downtown
  79. 350 ft. 23 floors, Wedbrush Center, Ofc., Downtown
  80. 349 ft. 32 floors, Bunker Hill Tower, Res., Downtown
  81. 348 ft. 24 floors, City National Bank Building, Ofc., Downtown
  82. 348 ft. 23 floors, Watt Plaza North Tower, Ofc., Century City (Los Angeles)
  83. 348 ft. 23 floors, Watt Plaza South Tower, Ofc., Century City (Los Angeles)
  84. 347 ft. 24 floors, 10960 Wilshire, Ofcl, Westwood (Los Angeles)
  85. 341 ft. 24 floors, BIltmore Tower, Hotel, Downtown
  86. 334 ft. 24 floors, Wilshire Landmark I, Ofc, West Los Angeles (Los Angeles)
  87. 332 ft. 28 floors, Concerto - South Tower, Res., Downtown
  88. 330 ft. 28 floors, 1133 Hope, Res., Downtown
  89. 328 ft. 21 floors, Eighteen Eighty Eight Building, Ofc., Century City (Los Angeles)
  90. 328 ft. 27 floors, The Wilshire, Res., Westwood (Los Angeles)
  91. 327 ft. 23 floors, The Tower, Ofc., Westwood (Los Angeles)
  92. 320 ft. 30 floors ARQ Apartments, Res., West Adams (Los Angeles)
  93. 314 ft. 20 floors, 6500 Wilshire, Ofc., Miracle Mile (Los Angeles)
  94. 312 ft. 28 floors, Alina Los Angeles, Res., Downtown
  95. 312 ft. 22 floors, Mercury, Res., Koreatown (Los Angeles)
  96. 309 ft. 21 floors, Valley Executive Tower, Ofc., Sherman Oaks (Los Angeles)
  97. 307 ft. 28 floors, 2222 Avenue of the Stars, Res., Century City (Los Angeles)
  98. 307 ft. 21 floors, 6300 Wilshire, Ofc., Miracle Mile (Los Angeles)
  99. 307 ft. 29 floors, The Vermont I, Res., Koreatown (Los Angeles)
  100. 305 ft. 28 floors, 2220 Avenue of the Stars, Res., Century City (Los Angeles)
  101. 305 ft. 21 floors, Century Park Plaza, Ofc., Century City (Los Angeles)
  102. 305 ft. 20 floors, Sunset Vine Tower, Hollywood (Los Angeles)
  103. 303 ft. 24 floors, Wilshire and Barrington Condominiums, Res., West Los Angeles (Los Angeles)
  104. 300 ft. 25 floors, Barrington Plaza A, Res., West Los Angeles (Los Angeles)
  105. 300 ft. 22 floors, Sky Lofts, Res., Downtown
  106. 300 ft. 24 floors, World Savings Center, Ofc., West Los Angeles (Los Angeles)

*I'm including the three Oceanwide towers because they are essentially complete and sealed
*I'm not going to research or list proposals
*I will break out the towers that are currently u/c tomorrow
*There are another 18 or so regional 300+ footers outside of LA city limits.

It's late and I'm tired, so I'll make any corrections necessary tomorrow.

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Great idea! According to Wikipedia alone, Nashville has 33 towers 300 feet or more completed, 7 under construction, and another 32 in various stages of the proposal/approval process so it seems to me like it's total should be higher than 21.

So if I'm understanding it correctly, Nashville should be 40 (7) + 32

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_in_Nashville

Memphis has 8 completed, 0 of anything else.
Thank you! Updated accordingly. Is it possible for you to verify the information from Wiki and are the proposals listed on wiki still active?
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SATX: 1435k (+8%) + MSA suburbs: 1124k (+38%) + CSA exurbs: 18k (+11%)
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Opening Pandora's box dividing into sub skylines. There aren't always clear dividing lines making it highly subjective. Neither do I want any towers missed from the count. Chicago is too close for comfort.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/70...!4d-79.6160756

An example of two possible 300 footers in the middle of nowhere.
It’s really easy in most places, tbh. Its the largest cities where it becomes more difficult.
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This sounds like a noble effort in rating tower collections.

For skylines, setting matters--especially hills. There's more height and depth when towers are arranged like people standing on bleachers for a group photo.
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If you are attempting to measure a skyline, wouldn't the actual size of buildings need to be considered?
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This sounds like a noble effort in rating tower collections.

For skylines, setting matters--especially hills. There's more height and depth when towers are arranged like people standing on bleachers for a group photo.
The word "skyline" throws me off. You could measure all of the towers, but there are a lot of other unmeasurable things to consider in a good skyline.
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Thank you! Updated accordingly. Is it possible for you to verify the information from Wiki and are the proposals listed on wiki still active?
To the best of my knowledge the information is accurate and up to date. There is actually a small group of posters over on the Nashville section of the Urbanplanet forum (which I frequent) who are responsible for the upkeep on that Wiki page, and they are always sort of touching base with folks at the forum, which has quite a few people 'in the loop,' so to speak, on those matters, to get their input on it too, so I think it's about as accurate as it can be.

Same goes for the proposals. To my knowledge, although some of those projects are in the very early stages (Reed Development for example) none of those have been officially scrapped or anything like that.

Also I'm not sure how comprehensive a list you were looking to make, but just encase you were looking for any and all entries possible, just to sort of clear Tennessee, Knoxville has 2 towers over 300, while Chattanooga has 1. Neither have any pending.
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To the best of my knowledge the information is accurate and up to date. There is actually a small group of posters over on the Nashville section of the Urbanplanet forum (which I frequent) who are responsible for the upkeep on that Wiki page, and they are always sort of touching base with folks at the forum, which has quite a few people 'in the loop,' so to speak, on those matters, to get their input on it too, so I think it's about as accurate as it can be.

Same goes for the proposals. To my knowledge, although some of those projects are in the very early stages (Reed Development for example) none of those have been officially scrapped or anything like that.

Also I'm not sure how comprehensive a list you were looking to make, but just encase you were looking for any and all entries possible, just to sort of clear Tennessee, Knoxville has 2 towers over 300, while Chattanooga has 1. Neither have any pending.
This info gives me great confidence in your numbers.
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FTW: 919k (+24%) + MSA div. suburbs: 1589k (+14%) + adj. CSA exurbs: 90k (+12%)
SATX: 1435k (+8%) + MSA suburbs: 1124k (+38%) + CSA exurbs: 18k (+11%)
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So nyc built the equivalent of San Francisco or Sydney in downtown Brooklyn , Long Island city , and jersey city in the last 25 years
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So nyc built the equivalent of San Francisco or Sydney in downtown Brooklyn , Long Island city , and jersey city in the last 25 years
Much of the current numbers are likely lowballing a numbers of cities (Nashville, for instance, and I would assume Denver as well). New York probably isn’t one of those.
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Twin Cities:
• Minneapolis: 40 (1) — +1
• St. Paul: 12
Here's what I ended up with for Minnesota:

Twin Cities:
• Minneapolis: 42 (2) [792', 627', 436'] — + 2
• St. Paul: 13 [471', 367', 331']
• Bloomington: 2 [381', 341']

Rochester (MN): 2 [342', 324'] — + 1
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Here's what I ended up with for Minnesota:

Twin Cities:
• Minneapolis: 42 (2) [792', 627', 436'] — + 2
• St. Paul: 13 [471', 367', 331']
• Bloomington: 2 [381', 341']

Rochester (MN): 2 [342', 324'] — + 1
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FTW: 919k (+24%) + MSA div. suburbs: 1589k (+14%) + adj. CSA exurbs: 90k (+12%)
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New Orleans data:

All buildings in the city limits at 300' or taller.

1. 697'. 51 floors. Hancock Whitney Center (Office)
2. 645'. 53 floors. Place St. Charles (Office)
3. 531'. 45 floors. Plaza Tower (Vacant due to asbestos contamination)
4. 530'. 39 floors. Energy Centre (Office)
5. 481'. 36 floors. First Bank & Trust Tower (Office)
6. 479'. 49 floors. Sheraton New Orleans (Hotel)
7. 449'. 42 floors. New Orleans Marriott (Hotel)
8. 442'. 32 floors. 400 Poydras Tower (Office)
9. 440'. 32 floors. One Canal Place (Office)
10. 438'. 31 floors. 1010 Common (Office)
11. 407'. 33 floors. Four Seasons Hotel & Private Residences New Orleans (Hotel/Residential)
12. 406'. 26 floors. Benson Tower (Office)
13. 386'. 30 floors. JW Marriott Hotel New Orleans (Hotel)
14. 373'. 29 floors. The Westin New Orleans Canal Place (Hotel)
15. 362'. 29 floors. 225 Baronne St. (Residential)
16. 361'. 32 floors. Hyatt Regency New Orleans (Hotel)
17. 360'. 28 floors. Entergy Tower (Office)
18. 355'. 20 floors. Hibernia Bank Building (Office/Residential)
19. 342'. 24 floors. 1250 Poydras Plaza (Office)
20. 342'. 29 floors. The Odeon at South Market (Residential)
21. 341'. 29 floors. Hilton New Orleans Riverside (Hotel)
22. 341'. 29 floors. 1515 Poydras (Office)
23. 330'. 23 floors. National American Bank Building (Residential)
24. 327'. 26 floors. Harrah's New Orleans - Poydras St. Hotel (Hotel)
25. 322'. 27 floors. Pan American Life Center (Office)
26. 300'. 28 floors. Poydras Center (Office)

Tallest = 697'
Average (top 10) = 513'
Average (all) = 415'

Suburban Metairie office corridor on Causeway Blvd. has one tower over 300'

1. 403'. 34 floors. Three Lakeway Center (Office)

The newest skyscraper under construction is a Caesar's Palace Hotel Tower, but it just misses the 300' mark at 292'.
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