Major cities by count of embassies, consulates, or diplomatic missions

[Crawford]

Wait, they considered putting the UN at Kykuit? That would have been horrible.

Kykuit is probably the most prominent Rockefeller estate, and is now a museum and public gardens/forest. It wouldn't make a good UN campus, at all. I know the first few years were in a temporary campus in Flushing Meadows, but the current site is basically perfect for its functions.

[kingkirbythe....]

Originally Posted by JManc

Houston lost its Chinese consulate during the Trump era.

Republicans celebrate 2020 closure of Houston’s Chinese consulate

https://www.expressnews.com/politics...f-17428664.php

It is unlikely the Chinese consulate in Houston will re-open anytime soon, a top GOP leader in Congress said on Thursday.

Two years after the Donald Trump administration closed the office as accusations of espionage surfaced, U.S. Rep. Michael McCaul said he has a hard time seeing how the U.S. could allow the facility to re-open again.

“I think it would be very difficult,” said McCaul, who is positioned to become the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee if Republicans regain the majority in the November mid-term elections. “I just think that the threat that they posed there would make it very hard to do.”

McCaul’s comments came as he and his GOP colleagues in Congress, including U.S. House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., gathered in Houston to praise the Trump administration for shutting down the Chinese consulate and calling out the Chinese government for their spying and stealing of trade secrets and technology from organizations including The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center, NASA, and the energy sector.

“The Trump administration stood up and had the guts to call it exactly what it was,” McCarthy said during an afternoon press conference at the Harris County Republican Party headquarters.

In July 2020, the consulate on 3417 Montrose Blvd was ordered to close, resulting in a hasty evacuation by Chinese officials, some of whom were spotted setting fire to documents in the courtyard so they would not end up in the hands of U.S. officials. McCaul said the Houston consulate served as an espionage hub and was a den of spies.

Chinese officials have called the U.S. decision to close the consulate in Houston “outrageous and unjustified,” and retaliated by closing a U.S. consulate in Chengdu.

The Biden administration has not made any moves to re-open the consulate since he took office in 2021.

McCarthy said in the coming weeks he’s going to outline how the GOP will confront the communist government in China in 2023 if Republicans retake the House in November. While in Houston he said a big piece of that is going to focus on how to bring critical supply lines back to the United States, but he did not detail his plan, saying more information would be released later this fall.

McCaul and U.S. Sen. John Cornyn earlier that summer were able to pass legislation aimed at providing incentives for semiconductor manufacturing in the United States. Currently, the bulk of semiconductor manufacturing is in Taiwan.

Political experts have predicted Republicans will win enough seats in November to retake the majority, though lately the predictions of a red wave election have been scaled back as President Joe Biden’s approval ratings have improved some.

Still, McCarthy made clear on Thursday in Houston he expects Republicans to be the majority in Congress in 2023.

So did McCaul.

“When we get the majority back, we’re going to prepare America to win the great power competition against China,” said McCaul, whose sprawling 10th Congressional District runs from Austin to Katy.

[muppet]

World's biggest bureaucratic sectors - consulates and embassies:

1. Brussels 184

2. Washington DC 177

3. Beijing 173

4 or 2. London 165 (182 inc disputed States and British Commonwealth states)

5. Paris 160

6.= Berlin 158

6.= Tokyo 158

7. Delhi 156

8. Moscow 147

9.= Cairo 139

9.= Rome 139

[montréaliste]

Originally Posted by muppet

World's biggest bureaucratic sectors - consulates and embassies:

1. Brussels 184

2. Washington DC 177

3. Beijing 173

4 or 2. London 165 (182 inc disputed States and British Commonwealth states)

5. Paris 160

6.= Berlin 158

6.= Tokyo 158

7. Delhi 156

8. Moscow 147

9.= Cairo 139

9.= Rome 139

Lol. If tiny Bonn had as many embassies as Berlin does now when it was the capital, diplomats must have been tripping over themselves.

[wwmiv]

Originally Posted by montréaliste

Lol. If tiny Bonn had as many embassies as Berlin does now when it was the capital, diplomats must have been tripping over themselves.

Tiny? Bonn is one of the principal anchors and business centers for Rhine-Ruhr area, which is Germany’s largest metro and almost double that of Berlin’s.

Bonn is actually a large center for IR:

Over the past two decades, Bonn has successfully established itself as the German city of the United Nations and as a center for international cooperation and hub for sustainable development. 25 United Nations organizations with over 1,000 employees are now based in Bonn, including the Climate Change Secretariat and the Secretariat to Combat Desertification. Under the motto "Shaping a sustainable future", the United Nations is working from Bonn towards this end. In addition to federal agencies and institutions of German development cooperation, numerous scientific institutions, companies and some 150 international and internationally active non-governmental organizations are also based in Bonn.

[…]

Bonn has been the German city of the United Nations since July 1996. In July 2006, Chancellor Angela Merkel handed over the main building of today's UN Campus to the United Nations in Bonn. The German government had invested 55 million euros in the conversion of the former high-rise building for members of parliament, also known as "Langer Eugen". Almost all of Bonn's UN organizations work there under one roof. As the headquarters of the UN Climate Secretariat, the Old House of Representatives was converted as a model building ecology project and occupied in 2013.

bonn.de

[WhipperSnapper]

Shocking how low the numbers are in many US metros. Approval from the government must be a difficult process not to mention getting a green card

[montréaliste]

[QUOTE=wwmiv;9727243]Tiny? Bonn is one of the principal anchors and business centers for Rhine-Ruhr area, which is Germany’s largest metro and almost double that of Berlin’s.


Well, I found that Bonn and Cologne are a metropolitan are that comprises 3.13 million people. Bonn itself is a bit over 330,000. Not huge. But from your post, I understand why it has so many foreign delegations.

[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by hipster duck

I’m guessing most of the places under 4 are Canada and/or Mexico plus a random country where there’s a lot of local immigrants?

True. Fresno has one. It might be Mexico, although there are also many Armenians. L.A. has an Armenian consulate. Many in the area, especially in Glendale-Pasadena-Hollywood.

[pip]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Shocking how low the numbers are in many US metros. Approval from the government must be a difficult process not to mention getting a green card

What do you expect? Belgium, a country of 11.5 million people to have 30 embassies in the US?

[DCReid]

Originally Posted by pip

What do you expect? Belgium, a country of 11.5 million people to have 30 embassies in the US?

Right. The US has a lot of big cities so most countries may decide to only have a few embassies strategically located, with one in DC for sure and perhaps one in NYC for sure. I would be interested in how many embassies are in China and which cities, since China is now the second largest economy. I found this list, but am not sure it is accurate: https://www.countryaah.com/embassies-in-china/

[montréaliste]

Originally Posted by pip

What do you expect? Belgium, a country of 11.5 million people to have 30 embassies in the US?

Don’t forget, embassies are located in capital cities, and consulates in other cities.

[wanderer34]

I've always felt that Miami is due for more consulates in the near future. Here's some consulates I'm thinking would either open in Miami and the reasons and factors on why those countries would open a consulate in Miami:

Australia (possible direct flights to Miami; https://www.thenextmiami.com/qantas-...alia-to-miami/)
Austria (FL has 3rd largest population of Austrian descent in the US behind CA & NY)
Belgium (FL contains largest amount of Belgian descent in the Southern US)
Denmark (FL contains 2nd largest population of Danish descent in the Southern US)
Dominica (Caribbean country)
Egypt (no direct link to Miami but considering Morocco, Israel, as well as concentrations of a growing Arab community in South FL, this could come in the future plus the Suez Canal being another major factor in placing a consulate in Miami since the Port of Miami is a very important American port)
Finland (FL contains largest population of Finnish descent in the US)
Ghana (huge Afro-Caribbean community with roots from Ghana plus growing Ghanaian population in FL)
Guyana (Caribbean country)
Lebanon (FL contains largest population of Lebanese descent in the Southern US)
Lithuania (FL contains largest population of Lithuanian descent in the Southern US)
Morocco (direct link to Rabat via Royal Air Maroc)
Norway (FL contains 2nd largest population of Norwegian descent in the Southern US)
Poland (FL has the 5th largest population of Polish descent in the US; 2021 US Census https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...T1Y2021.B04006)
Portugal (FL has the 3rd largest population of Portuguese descent in the US behind CA & MA; 2021 US Census https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...T1Y2021.B04006)
Qatar (direct link to Doha via Qatar Airlines)
Russia (3rd largest Russian descent in the US behind CA & NY; https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...T1Y2021.B04006
St. Kitts & Nevis (Caribbean country)
St. Vincent & the Grenadines (Caribbean country)
South Africa (possible consular link to southern Africa)
Sweden (FL contains largest population of Swedish descent in the US)
Switzerland (FL contains largest amount of Swiss descent in the Southern US)
Ukraine (FL contains largest amount of Ukrainian descent in the Southern US)
United Arab Emirates (direct link from Dubai to Miami via Emirates)

There may be a few more countries that I'm missing or that I haven't covered but if all these countries set up consulates in Miami, that would give Miami the second largest consular body in America with 67 consulates surpassing Chicago and just edging out LA.

Also, I didn't add any Asian countries to Miami (China, India, the Philippines, etc.) because there's not a huge concentration of Asians in South FL. The only Asian consulates listed in Miami are Japan and the Republic of Taiwan, mainly due to business ties between the two countries and Miami plus the Port of Miami being such an important American seaport. If anything, the best places to place Asian consulates in FL would have to be Orlando, since Cape Caneveral does hire some Indian engineers for NASA, and in Jacksonville and Orlando, there's a growing Filipino community while Tampa Bay has a present Vietnamese community over there so a Vietnamese consulate in Tampa might make sense.

Even though there's a direct link between Dublin and Miami, I didn't add an Irish consulate to Miami since there's already one in Atlanta which covers the Southeastern US including FL, albeit that may change if the Irish government decides to add another consulate in Miami but I didn't add because for example, in TX, the Irish consulate is in Austin, not in Houston or Dallas, and it's possible that an Irish consulate may be established in Orlando or Tampa and not in Miami depending on where the Irish government wants to establish a consulate plus other circumstances.

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by montréaliste

Don’t forget, embassies are located in capital cities, and consulates in other cities.

Not always. Some countries have chosen to locate their embassies in NYC rather than D.C.

[JMKeynes]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

Not always. Some countries have chosen to locate their embassies in NYC rather than D.C.

I think that embassies are always in a country's capital. NY has scores of countries' consulates to the UN.

[MAC123]

Originally Posted by JMKeynes

I think that embassies are always in a country's capital. NY has scores of countries' consulates to the UN.

Not always. I believe NYC has 9 embassies.

[Bailey]

Originally Posted by JManc

Houston lost its Chinese consulate during the Trump era.

Where did the Mexico consulate move to? They had a prominent location off of 59 , near the Museum District?

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by JMKeynes

I think that embassies are always in a country's capital. NY has scores of countries' consulates to the UN.

NY has embassies, but it is likely a special case because of the UN. All of the embassies are for small countries that probably don't have enough resources to maintain more than one diplomatic office.