NEW YORK | 15 Penn Plaza (Hotel Penn) | 1,200 FT / 388 M | 61 FLOORS

[Zerton]

Originally Posted by BStyles

Aren't all office supertalls erected with steel? I'm saying I hope this rises being built with steel instead of concrete, which is what they're using nowadays.

The first skyscrapers in New York and Chicago were made of steel. Concrete skyscrapers came afterward. Steel and concrete are the only materials used as the primary structure for a skyscraper.

[RobertWalpole]

Originally Posted by NYguy

http://www.dnainfo.com/20100616/manh...l-pennsylvania

City Will Vote July 14 on Plan to Raze Hotel Pennsylvania
The City Planning Commission will vote on whether to allow Vornado to turn the Pennsylvania Hotel into a 67-story office tower.



By Jill Colvin
June 16, 2010

Is anyone planning to attend this vote today?

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

Originally Posted by RobertWalpole

Is anyone planning to attend this vote today?

wat time will it be held?

[RobertWalpole]

I don't know.

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

have they voted yet?

[Onn]

Hotel Pennsylvania is One Giant Step Closer to Demolition

If approved by the City Council, the new 15 Penn Plaza office tower will become one of the tallest buildings in the city.

July 14, 2010 8:04pm
By Jill Colvin

MANHATTAN — It looks like lights out for Hotel Pennsylvania.

The City Planning Commission voted unanimously Wednesday in favor of razing the storied hotel to make way for a new Vornado Realty office tower, despite fierce opposition by Community Board 5.

If the decision is approved by the City Council, the new 1,200-foot 15 Penn Plaza tower will become one of the tallest buildings in the city and add nearly two million square feet of commercial floor space to midtown, according to an environmental impact statement filed with the commission.

The project also includes the re-opening of an underground passageway under the south side of 33rd Street, which will connect the Sixth and Seventh Avenue subway lines as well as the PATH trains so commuters no longer have to transfer outside.

Planning Commission Chair Amanda Burden said the property, directly across from Penn Station and Madison Square Garden, is an "ideal location for high density development."

"At nearly 80,000 square feet, the site offers an opportunity for precisely the type of well-designed…office building that New York City needs to stay globally competitive," she said before casting a 'yea' vote.

Vornado Realty Trust, which acquired full rights to the hotel in 1999, would not comment on the decision.

Read more: http://www.dnainfo.com/20100714/manh...#ixzz0tiM12Dxh

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Praise God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I COULDNT BE HAPPIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Onn]

So far, so good!

[NYC4Life]

Planning Commission Chair Amanda Burden said the property, directly across from Penn Station and Madison Square Garden, is an "ideal location for high density development."

I can't believe Amanda Burden actually made that statement

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

Great, that one is approved!

[NYC4Life]

Originally Posted by OneWorldTradeCenter

Great, that one is approved!

Still needs approval of the City Council and eventually an anchor tenant.

[brian.odonnell20]

as i see it, this is about as far along as Philadelphia's approved 1500 footer. It still needs final approval and an anchor tenant.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by brian.odonnell20

as i see it, this is about as far along as Philadelphia's approved 1500 footer. It still needs final approval and an anchor tenant.

I don't know what project you're referring to, but there are probably no 1500 foot conventional office buildings that are going to be built anywhere on the face of earth, least of all in a market like Philly.

Yes, there may be some subsidized towers in the developing world, or special cases like WTC or the MSG site, but a 1500 foot tower makes no sense on any level. Office buildings are built to make money.

[brian.odonnell20]

sorry if i was a little vague. Its called the american commerce center, its a mixed use tower with 63 office floors, and a ~500 ft residential mid-rise next to it. And I guess it might seem unlikely but it has full approval and just needs an anchor tenant to start construction, making it as I said before just as far along as 15 penn plaza. nyc isn't the only place to build supertalls in the country.

If you think im making it up look at the philly diagram...

[Dac150]

I guess Amanda isn't so bad.....

[Zerton]

Originally Posted by NYC4Life

I can't believe Amanda Burden actually made that statement

she's a little more complex and intelligent than this forum likes to portray her. I found this article a while back when all the tour nouvel stuff was going down.

http://www.vanityfair.com/society/fe...-burden-201005

she has quite the credentials and used to be really good looking too (still is for how old she's getting.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Zerton

she's a little more complex and intelligent than this forum likes to portray her. I found this article a while back when all the tour nouvel stuff was going down.

Well, anyone that has followed planning issues here should know that Amanda Burden has been behind a lot of the new development. It just so happens that the one thing she really screwed up was the one tower that people wanted to see rise above all others. But as far as develoment goes, she's on record of being in favor of highrises and high density.

Originally Posted by NYC4Life

I can't believe Amanda Burden actually made that statement

Why wouldn't she? She's the head of City Planning. It's the efforts of city planning that is leading to the transformation of the west side into the city's newest business district, where the new large towers of midtown will rise. I've said all along that this is as much a city development as it is Vornado's.


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...iuWflUwvl5qP3K

Penn Plaza tower OK'd

By TOM TOPOUSIS
July 15, 2010

Zone it and they will come.

At least that's what the developer of a proposed behemoth of a tower on the site of the Hotel Pennsylvania is hoping now that city planners yesterday approved zoning changes needed to build a skyscraper taller than the Chrysler Building.

The approvals more than double the size of a building that could go up on Seventh Avenue, between 33rd and 32nd Streets, where developer Vornado wants to build as much as 2.83 million square feet of office space.

Final approval rests with the City Council.

No construction is expected until Vornado signs a major tenant for the project. Planning Commissioner Amanda Burden praised the proposed tower, citing its location across Seventh Avenue from the key transit hub of Penn Station.

The tower, with 67 floors and up to 1,216 feet, would be the city's third tallest after the Empire State and Bank of America buildings. But completion in 2013 of 1 World Trade Center, formerly known as the Freedom Tower, would bump the Penn Plaza tower down to fourth place.

The tower would actually be the third tallest after the Freedom Tower and Empire State. Also, towers 2 and 3 at the WTC would be taller.

[patriotizzy]

It's approved?


Yeeeehaw!

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by patriotizzy

It's approved?
Yeeeehaw!

There's still the matter of the City Council giving the final "stamp" to the development. At that point, it will join the ranks of the Manhattan West, and Hudson Yards towers as skyscrapers in Midtown awaiting tenants to begin construction. It won't be as costly as those other two because there is no platform necessary, but there is the matter of closing and demolishing the hotel. Vornado also plans to build the "Penn East" tower (somewhat) accross the street. That one is near 1,000 ft, and is "assumed" to be under construction around the same time, according to the planning documents. But like everything else, it will all be determined by landing tenants.

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

Vornado also plans to build the "Penn East" tower (somewhat) accross the street. That one is near 1,000 ft, and is "assumed" to be under construction around the same time, according to the planning documents. But like everything else, it will all be determined by landing tenants.[/QUOTE]

across the street where? not in the garden