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Old Posted Oct 16, 2019, 5:02 PM
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NEW ORLEANS | Hard Rock Hotel and Residences | 210 FT | 18 FL | ON HOLD

Due to the ongoing emergency and the collapse , it seems prudent to create a thread for this project so the topic can be discussed here.



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Hotel Website:

https://www.hardrockhotels.com/new-orleans




Photos During Construction:




The following photos I took Friday October 11th, the night before the collapse:










Photos and video during and after the collapse:










Video of the collapse:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm3qPkDbtKM


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbO2z5GA4r0




Drone footage post collapse:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP4tbb8omHc



Project Team Websites:


Contractors Website
http://www.citadelbuilders.com/



Engineers Website:

https://www.heaslipeng.com/



Architects

http://www.hbsaii.com/projects.html





Latest Up to date information:



https://twitter.com/nolaready

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Old Posted Oct 16, 2019, 5:09 PM
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To add insult to injury here there is a likelihood of some minor tropical development that could impact New Orleans this weekend:

Tropical development could bring local impacts this weekend. Stay weather aware in #NOLA and prep for heavy rain. #NOLAReady #PrepTips ➡️ http://ready.nola.gov/hurricane




Given the taller cranes leanings and the part of the building that collapsed ... southern winds are considered the greatest threat at this time to toppling that crane.



For those not familiar, this construction site is located in a very dense historic part of town and sits directly across the street from The Saenger Theatre:


Saenger Theatre :

https://www.saengernola.com/home







The theatre has already suffered a small hole in the roof and some canopy damage on the side... but those have been temporarilty fixed.. main concern is the larger crane falling right on it
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2019, 5:28 PM
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So this'll have to be a full demo then, right? No way I could see them trying to rebuild with any of the existing structure... way too risky
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2019, 5:32 PM
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So this'll have to be a full demo then, right? No way I could see them trying to rebuild with any of the existing structure... way too risky
I think that's likely the path forward. Given that the structure was never designed to bear the weight of a collapse, I imagine it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to get someone to sign off on it.

First though, they have to figure out how to deal with these cranes.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2019, 5:42 PM
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I think for sure all of the steel parts will have to come down and then inspect the the garage portion of it to see if thats salvageable but until the building is stabilized no way to really know what the ultimate condition of that garage will be...


Link to 10am update:

https://www.facebook.com/mayorcantre...094662?sfns=mo

Seems to be hinting at controlled explosives being used to bring both cranes down as a real possibility

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Old Posted Oct 16, 2019, 7:41 PM
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Quite concerning when two days prior to collapse workers are noticing sagging and beams too small..

https://www.nola.com/news/article_d8...f92b121e2.html
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2019, 8:13 PM
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Quite concerning when two days prior to collapse workers are noticing sagging and beams too small..

https://www.nola.com/news/article_d8...f92b121e2.html
I was just about to post this. I understand that Citadel was responsible for the construction, but who engineered this thing? I don’t think I’ve seen or heard it mentioned yet.
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Is there a consensus as to why exactly this happened?
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Whoa, please go back and include links to the websites where you found those images. It's a forum rule that photos be properly credited with a link to the page where they can be found. This rule applies to everyone everywhere on the forum. If they aren't your own photos, you need to credit the owners.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2019, 4:01 AM
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Whoa, please go back and include links to the websites where you found those images. It's a forum rule that photos be properly credited with a link to the page where they can be found. This rule applies to everyone everywhere on the forum. If they aren't your own photos, you need to credit the owners.
The photos of the site and building are ones ive taken personally.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2019, 7:08 PM
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The photos of the site and building are ones ive taken personally.
I know that you've taken some photos around New Orleans, but not all of those were yours. These here that I've linked aren't. You must credit any and all photos you post that are not your own or they may be removed.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...yvPzWfOZSdMN_R

https://i0.wp.com/buildingblocks.com...?fit=850%2C550

https://66.media.tumblr.com/bf7968dd...ffff275afc.jpg

https://66.media.tumblr.com/527dde49...95f483fb45.jpg

https://66.media.tumblr.com/473a3e58...a235a412f1.png

http://1s33hm43x1ll1nob5n1jgbtf.wpen...-1024x1024.jpg

http://jbace.com/wp-content/uploads/...2/DSC_7226.jpg

http://www.soundcom.net/Projects/020...er-/main_0.jpg
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2019, 9:41 PM
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How many buildings this tall are framed like this? Looks like a lowrise that was made extra tall.
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At Hard Rock New Orleans, this is the plan for the 'only way' to remove damaged cranes
BY MATT SLEDGE, RAMON ANTONIO VARGAS AND JOHN SIMERMAN - Times-Picayune-New Orleans Advocate

https://www.nola.com/news/article_00...ae608702c.html

Demolition experts will use torches and explosives to try to topple two teetering cranes at the site of the partially collapsed Hard Rock Hotel before they fall on their own, officials said Thursday.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2019, 6:28 PM
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A live broadcast of the impending crane demolition if anyone is interested;
https://www.wwltv.com/mobile/video/n...ns/289-1078240


Update: Well that didn’t seem to go at all as planned. Now you have one crane standing vertically on its head in the middle of Rampart while the boom of the other hangs over Canal.

Update 2: Still, officials seem satisfied with the outcome.
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2019, 7:05 PM
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My initial reaction to seeing the crane demo was that it was a total disaster, given that one of the cranes teetered off the side of the building and the other one didn't even come down. Seemed like the opposite of the stated goal to have them sort of collapse in on themselves "like a melted candle".

But it seems a little clearer now that it was more or less successful given the circumstances. The fact that one crane came down without seriously damaging adjacent properties, and the other appears to be in a much more stable position than it was before is a good step forward. I don't think the results are as rosey as City officials are painting it, but we'll take it.
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https://www.nola.com/news/politics/a...a895f5bc2.html

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Almost 20 months after the Hard Rock Hotel disaster, its lead developer on Thursday urged the City Council not to "kill a project" by placing new height restrictions on the site, saying he planned to rebuild a similar project to the one that collapsed.

Mohan Kailas and attorneys for 1031 Canal Street Development LLC, the company formed to build the hotel, said a deal with Hard Rock International was still in play and plans were underway to build a new hotel on the recently-cleared property.

The City Council took a dim view of such plans. During the council meeting Thursday, members unanimously voted in favor of rescinding the conditional use permit that allowed the Hard Rock to rise 18 stories. Another vote is required before that change goes into effect, though it isn’t expected to face opposition.
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