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Old Posted May 11, 2014, 9:23 PM
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Also, Newark has a subway and there are subway PATH stops in places like Jersey City. I'm not familiar enough with PATH or New Jersey to name any other cities that might have one underground PATH station, though.
Hudson Bergen Light Rail: Union City has one underground stop (Bergenline Ave). I believe it's ~150 feet below the Palisades.

PATH: Hoboken has one underground stop (Hoboken Terminal) and Jersey City has 3-4 underground stops (Newport, Exchange Pl, Grove St, and, debatably, Journal Square)

Newark City Subway (aka Newark Light Rail): Newark has 4 underground stops (Warren St, Washington St, Military Park, and Newark Penn Station)
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Old Posted May 13, 2014, 12:41 AM
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The closest thing we have to a subway in Denver is the Airport subway system. lol
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Old Posted May 13, 2014, 12:51 AM
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That is because Metra, as that extract forma Wikipedia says, is considered commuter rail. In Chicago, the system considered as urban heavy rail AKA metro (which is a better word that subway since can be either subway, elevated or at ground level)

Here is the list of commuter rail systems in the US

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...s_by_ridership
Thanks for that link it was informative. I haven't checked back on this thread in a while so sorry about the old bump.
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Cincinnati has four subway stations that are currently being used by Casper, Slimer, and George Burns.
A fake NYC subway station entrance appeared this week on Vine St. in Cincinnati, about four blocks from one of its never-used subway stations.



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Hudson Bergen Light Rail: Union City has one underground stop (Bergenline Ave). I believe it's ~150 feet below the Palisades.

PATH: Hoboken has one underground stop (Hoboken Terminal) and Jersey City has 3-4 underground stops (Newport, Exchange Pl, Grove St, and, debatably, Journal Square)

Newark City Subway (aka Newark Light Rail): Newark has 4 underground stops (Warren St, Washington St, Military Park, and Newark Penn Station)
Camden has 2 underground PATCO stations, a line that like PATH, runs 24/7
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I assume OP means metro areas.

"Subway" could probably be defined as either underground rapid transit, underground rail of any type, or rapid transit of any orientation.

Although, I am assuming that OP means the latter (so, for example, Miami would count).
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Old Posted Jan 2, 2022, 2:31 AM
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Edit: I was mistaken about San Jose having an underground light rail stop at the intermodal Diridon station currently (it has a tunnel under the Amtrak and commuter railroads there but the station is at ground level), but if all goes according to plan, there will also eventually be an underground BART station at Diridon as well.

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16 existing (heavy rail)
16 under construction (7 heavy rail, 9 light rail)
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LA:

16 existing (heavy rail)
16 under construction (7 heavy rail, 9 light rail)
Let's hope this increases substantially.
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the private fort worth leonards/tandy center subway.

it had an underground station.

1963-2002 rip.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tandy_Center_Subway








the nyc beach pneumatic subway.

1870-1873

https://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/Beach_Pneumatic_Transit

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the CTA el system has 112 route miles (not including the purple line's express run to the loop because it's a rush-hour only service, only the full service section of the purple line through evanston/wilmette is included here).


here's a break down of the route miles by ROW type:

elevated (structured): 49.0 miles (44%)

expressway median: 27.6 miles (25%)

elevated (embankment): 17.8 miles (16%)

subway: 10.7 miles (10%)

at-grade: 5.6 miles (5%)

open trench: 1.3 miles (1%)


100% of the el system runs in dedicated ROW, and 95% of that is fully grade separated from street-crossings, but there are places at the extreme ends of 4 of the el lines where the el has at-grade street-crossings, most of them out in the burbs:

6 at the end of the brown line in albany park/lincoln square
10 at the end of the pink line in lawndale/suburban cicero
7 at the end of the yellow line in suburban skokie
2 at the end of the purple line up in suburban wilmette

24 total at-grade street crossing on the el system




the el system has 146 stations (each station is counted only once here, many are used by multiple lines, like the loop stations):

elevated/embankment stations: 88 (60%)

expressway median stations: 25 (17%)

subway stations: 22 (15%)

at grade stations: 11 (8%)




so depending on if you're talking route miles or # of stations, roughly 10 - 15% of the CTA el system is "subwayed", and the VAST majority of that (19 of the 22 subway stations) is comprised of the red and blue line subway runs underneath downtown.
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LA:

16 existing (heavy rail)
16 under construction (7 heavy rail, 9 light rail)
Are there no existing light rail stations underground?
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Within SF proper, BART has 7 subway stations, and Muni Metro currently has 9 subway stations (soon to be 12), for a total of 16 (soon to be 19).
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Are there no existing light rail stations underground?
There are 2 i believe on the gold line east
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Are there no existing light rail stations underground?
Mariachi and Soto station on the L (future E) line are both underground. Memorial Park station (also on the L, future A) line is a maybe.
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Mariachi and Soto station on the L (future E) line are both underground. Memorial Park station (also on the L, future A) line is a maybe.
So would that make it 16 existing heavy rail and 2 existing light rail stations underground, with 7 more heavy rail and 9 more light rail stations under construction?
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Old Posted Jan 3, 2022, 8:45 PM
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Seattle has nine subway stations on the current Link line, including two that opened in October.

None of the underway Link extensions plan subway stations, but East Link will have two tunnels (Mt. Baker and Downtown Bellevue), and three stations just outside those.

Likewise, our commuter rail and Amtrak use a tunnel through Downtown, but their station is just south of it.

Future Link extensions (mostly funded) will have some additional tunnel stations but the alignments are being worked out. Downtown will get a third transit tunnel.
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SF also has 2 subway stations (4th & Townsend and Salesforce Transit Center) in the pipeline for Caltrain and 1 for CAHSR (Salesforce Transit Center) as part of a Downtown Rail Extension project via a 1.3 mile tunnel from the existing 4th & King station.
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So would that make it 16 existing heavy rail and 2 existing light rail stations underground, with 7 more heavy rail and 9 more light rail stations under construction?
The Long Beach and Santa Monica lines share an underground station at 7th and metro.
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