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fittingly cleveland has two of the top twenty jewish delis --

old school jacks and new school larder --

its been awhile, but i can vouch for both.




Tasting Table ranks 2 Cleveland Jewish delis in top 20 in the nation

Tasting Table has named Larder Deli and Bakery and Jack's Deli and Restaurant as two of its top Jewish delis.


CLEVELAND — Cleveland has a storied history of being the home of some of the country's top Jewish delis.

And a new national ranking proves as much.

On Tuesday, the popular food website, Tasting Table, published its list of the top 20 Jewish delis in the United States. Two Cleveland locations made the cut, with Larder Deli and Bakery and Jack's Deli and Restaurant receiving recognition from the publication.


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https://www.wkyc.com/article/life/fo...7-0315dfd2c3d7

https://www.tastingtable.com/956737/...lis-in-the-us/
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2022, 5:01 AM
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Israel’s El Al Will Move Its US Head Office To Miami

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The move from New York to Miami will lead to substantial cost savings for the airline as it continues its recovery from the pandemic. The annual rent for the new head office in Miami will be $90,000, meaning a saving of over $500,000 per year compared to the cost of the current New York office.

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El Al’s US head office has been located in New York for several decades. It also has local offices in Los Angeles and Miami.

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While the move from New York to Miami will lead to substantial cost savings for the airline, the relocation is unlikely to have any significant impact on its operations.
https://simpleflying.com/el-al-head-office-miami/


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El Al To Suspend Flights Between Toronto & Tel Aviv

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The decision to close El Al’s Toronto route has drawn widespread criticism from Canada’s Jewish community over the reduced connection between the two countries. Air Canada will become the only direct air link between Toronto and Tel Aviv from the end of October.

Toronto-based financial advisor Asaf Halperin subsequently launched a petition urging the airline to reconsider, currently sitting at over 4,000 signatures. Supporters have cited various reasons for their signatures, including a lack of accessibility on the route, and enhanced security when traveling with El Al.

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https://simpleflying.com/el-al-to-su...onto-tel-aviv/
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That's surprising, Toronto has the third largest Israeli population I believe in NA and it has a very large observant Jewish community. Canada has the third largest Jewish population outside of Israel, just behind France.
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There are nine countries with at least 100,000 Jews.

Jewish population by country

US 7,300,000
Israel 6,998,000
France 446,000
Canada 393,500
UK 292,000
Argentina 175,000
Russia 150,000
Germany 118,000
Australia 118,000

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...n-of-the-world
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That's surprising, Toronto has the third largest Israeli population I believe in NA and it has a very large observant Jewish community. Canada has the third largest Jewish population outside of Israel, just behind France.
It is surprising, but you still have Air Canada. It's disappointing that not one of Delta, American, or United offers direct flights between LAX and Tel Aviv, despite LAX being a focus city or all three airlines and LA having a vibrant Israeli (and Jewish) community. Hell, even Boston has a second airline option, as will Chicago and SF once El Al resumes service.

Flight time from Tel Aviv to LA is only an extra 3 hours than to NYC; 1 hour, 40 minutes to Miami.
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Ohio’s census data from the early 21st century showed nearly 150,000 Jews living in the state, with the Cleveland area being home to more than 50% of them. According to the United States Census Bureau, Greater Cleveland is the 23rd largest Jewish community in the country. According to the 2012 Jewish Census, Greater Cleveland had 80,800 Jews; 27,000 for Cincinnati (as of 2008); and 25,500 for Columbus (as of 2013).
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Interesting read, and I agree with the sentiments expressed. LA being situated at the opposite side and corner of the country means that its Jewry enjoys a certain degree of autonomy that South Florida doesn't.

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From New York to LA: has the epicentre of Jewish America shifted?

By Kelly Hartog
March 18, 2021


KELLY HARTOG: As Manhattan’s financial hub hollows out and the creative industries keep drifting west, the trend is being driven by spiritual as well as lifestyle factors.

Fleeing pogroms and war, Jews embodied those words, flocking to New York’s shores in search of a better life. To this day, if you throw out a request on social media asking New York Jews what makes their city quintessentially Jewish, you’ll get 168 clearly distilled responses.

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And you can’t forget the cultural touchstones: Woody Allen, Crossing Delancey, The Yiddish Folksbiene Theatre, Seinfeld, The Jewish History Museum and the 92nd Street Y. There’s the shuls: Central Synagogue, B’nai Jeshurun, Chabad on Eastern Parkway.

But is New York still the centre of gravity of Jewish life in America or has that balance shifted to Los Angeles, which has the second largest Jewish population after New York? LA is also home to many Jews who work in Hollywood, where there are experimental synagogues of all denominations, and large cultural institutions including the renowned Skirball Cultural Centre.

The answer is: It depends. Not just on the scientifically proven method of “ask two Jews get three opinions,” but on how you define “Jewish life”.

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https://plus61j.net.au/culture-thoug...erica-shifted/
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Writer, consultant and speaker Esther Kustanowitz lived on New York’s Upper West Side for 14 years before moving to Los Angeles 12 years ago. She, too, noted a shift from a more closed tradition in New York.

“New York Jewish life is dense, compressed and provincial because its geography is,” she said. “In Los Angeles, Jewish life may have mini-centres but it is also spread out because there’s more geographical space.
I'm not sure what she means about Jewish life being more "spread out" in LA than in NY. You can find Jewish concentrations all over the metro.
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As for South Florida, it's more a cluster of Jewish communities, while L.A. is more of a coherent whole.
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50 reasons why L.A. is America’s coolest Jewish city

https://jewishjournal.com/cover_story/181238/
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I'm not sure what she means about Jewish life being more "spread out" in LA than in NY. You can find Jewish concentrations all over the metro.
She's just relating ethnography with the cities' respective cultural dynamics writ large...

"Jewish innovation and creativity in New York springs from restriction — having minimal space, being in a loud and crowded marketplace and under NYC’s legendary pressured pace, but Los Angeles provides literal open space to create, to stretch out, explore and dream."
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For what it's worth, NYC is still the top choice for Israelis looking to move abroad:

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Sharp rise in Israelis looking to relocate abroad for work

Compared to 46% in 2021, 69% of Israeli workers are interested in a relocation abroad, according to a new survey by Israeli recruitment website AllJobs.

By Hili Yacobi-Handelsma
July 26, 2022

With the end of the COVID pandemic and the world's return to normalcy, together with Israel's political instability in recent years and the current economic situation, 69% of Israeli workers are considering relocating to other countries. Last year, that number stood at 46%.

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The sense of disappointment is glaring and on the rise: 31% of those questioned in the survey said they were disappointed with the situation in Israel and therefore want to move to another country, compared to 24% last year. An additional option in this year's survey was the country's political climate, with 20% of those questioned noting this as a significant factor in their desire to relocate.

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Divided by city, New York and Los Angeles are the most desired cities, with 17% and 10% respectively, followed by Sydney (9%), London (8%), Miami (6.5%), Barcelona (6.5%), and Amsterdam (6%).

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https://www.israelhayom.com/2022/07/...road-for-work/
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Didn't realize the Brandeis 2020 American Jewish Population Project comes with an awesome interactive map that breaks down estimate down to counties. And with that...

NYC CSA

New York City
Manhattan
247,100 / 1,562,201 (15.8%)

Brooklyn
483,100 / 2,539,480 (19%)

Queens
144,600 / 2,234,284 (6.5%)

The Bronx
37,900 / 1,407,066 (2.7%)

Staten Island
31,100 / 470,485 (6.6%)

Total: 943,800 / 8,213,516 (11.5%)
Long Island
Nassau County
191,700 / 1,353,467 (14.2%)

Suffolk County
79,300 / 1,440,980 (5.5%)

Total: 271,000 / 2,794,447 (9.7%)
New Jersey
Bergen County
100,500 / 930,359 (10.8%)

Hudson County
18,900 / 673,830 (2.8%)

Passaic County
21,500 / 494,347 (4.4%)

Sussex, Warren*, and Hunterdon Counties
11,100 / 368,841 (3.0%)

Essex County
51,600 / 781,913 (6.6%)

Morris County
34,000 / 474,280 (7.2%)

Union County
30,600 / 574,404 (5.3%)

Somerset County
23,200 / 296,373 (7.8%)

Middlesex County
58,700 / 783,408 (7.5%)

Monmouth County
53,200 / 629,135 (8.5%)

Ocean County
81,800 / 599,528 (13.6%)

Mercer County
22,500 / 375,894 (6.0%)

Total: 507,600 / 6,982,312 (7.3%)
Upstate
Westchester County
110,900 / 940,159 (11.8%)

Rockland and Putnam Counties
101,400 / 417,729 (24.3%)

Orange and Sullivan* Counties
44,000 / 439,432 (10%)

Dutchess, Ulster, Columbia*, and Greene* Counties
24,900 / 555,261 (4.5%)

Total: 281,200 / 2,352,581 (12%)
Connecticut
Fairfield County
60,400 / 926,662 (6.5%)

New Haven County
38,600 / 827,007 (4.7%)

Total: 99,000 / 1,753,669 (5.6%)

Total: 2,102,600 / 22,096,525 (9.5%)

Share of Jews:

NYC — 44.9%
LI — 12.9%
NJ — 24.1%
Upstate — 13.4%
CT — 4.7%


* Not part of the NYC CSA
** Left out Litchfield, CT and Monroe, PA — figured that sort of evens out the addition of the extraneous counties


Very impressive numbers; every county is above the national average. Still though, about 35% of the region's Jews live in Manhattan and Brooklyn.
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South Florida

Miami-Dade County
119,800 / 2,784,374 (4.3%)

Broward County
176,200 / 1,964,773 (9.0%)

Palm Beach County
228,500 / 1,494,697 (15.3%)

St. Lucie, Martin, and Indian River Counties
14,800 / 633,590 (2.3%)

Total: 539,300 / 6,877,434 (7.8%)

* Doesn't include Monroe County
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SF Bay Area

San Francisco
52,200 / 872,399 (6.0%)

San Mateo
39,100 / 782,687 (5.0%)

Santa Clara
50,500 / 1,901,795 (2.7%)

Santa Cruz
8,000 / 748,802 (1.1%)

Alameda
49,300 / 1,656,400 (3.0%)

Contra Costa and Marin Counties
59,900 / 1,394,601 (4.3%)

Napa and Sonoma Counties
17,100 / 628,616 (2.7%)

Solano
3,500 / 436,436 (0.8%)

San Joaquin
5,000 / 749,568 (0.7%)

Total: 284,600 / 9,171,304 (3.1%)

* Doesn't include Merced and Stanislaus Counties
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LA CSA

Los Angeles
530,400 / 9,990,801 (5.3%)

Orange
86,600 / 3,180,860 (2.7%)

Riverside
33,600 / 2,450,297 (1.4%)

San Bernardino
16,900 / 2,132,283 (0.8%)

Ventura
40,900 / 844,941 (4.8%)

Total: 708,400 / 18,599,182 (3.8%)
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Delaware Valley

Philadelphia
81,600 / 1,540,507 (5.3%)

Bucks
44,400 / 609,665 (7.3%)

Montgomery
69,600 / 802,726 (8.7%)

Delaware
30,200 / 544,757 (5.5%)

Chester
15,700 / 532,215 (2.9%)

Berks
3,800 / 410,726 (0.9%)

New Castle
16,400 / 545,488 (3.0%)

Burlington
18,900 / 431,479 (4.4%)

Camden
28,600 / 514,078 (5.6%)

Gloucesster and Salem
4,800 / 331,582 (1.5%)

Atlantic, Cape May, and Cumberland
12,300 / 493,986 (2.5%)

* Doesn't include Kent (DE) or Cecil (MD)

Total: 326,300 / 6,757,209 (4.8%)
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These figures seem a lot more reliable than some of these community surveys. The recent Philadelphia study for example said that the City of Philadelphia is around 10% Jewish, which would be about a quarter or so of all NHWs in Philadelphia.
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Boston CSA

Boston MSA
284,200 / 4,749,287 (6.0%)

Providence MSA
32,700 / 1,568,694 (2.1%)

Worcester
12,700 / 807,639 (1.6%)

Barnstable
7,500 / 242,817 (3.1%)

Hillsborough
6,100 / 408,666 (1.5%)

Total: 343,200 / 7,777,103 (4.4%)

* Doesn't include Merrimack, Belknap, and Windham Counties
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I'll do DC-Baltimore and Chicagoland tomorrow.
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