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Old Posted Aug 2, 2020, 8:44 PM
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I would hope that any developer would use the current plans as a baseline... I'd just go a little higher and denser to maximize it being so close to a mass transit hub. Design wise, they're terrific. Not merely boxy, some geometric playfulness... I only hope that they don't do what C fears, get less ambitious because of the short term effects of the pandemic. Look towards the future AFTER that. They won't be starting a couple of years at best, hopefully by that time the pandemic will have passed but at best, we are looking at structures that wouldn't be fully built out, or at least one tower, until 2024 at the earliest. No need to panic about the long term market and downsize and waste the density and transit aspects.
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Nice. It's cool seeing the isometric drawings showing the buildings tower over the low-rise community to the south.

As tall as these are, I'm kind of surprised the height wasn't higher. This was the one spot in the city where the zoning code allowed unlimited density bonuses for art facilities and such. There is no height limit. The more square footage of theaters, art rooms, etc, the more developable sqft that was allowed. Given how crazy the real estate market has been these days, I was fully expecting some of the tallest buildings in Jersey City to be located here.
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Very nice addition. Hopefully even taller towers are coming to Journal Square.
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Kushners, Silverstein team on Jersey City development
Two-tower project could bring nearly 1,200 units to area


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The Kushners are continuing their dominance of the Jersey City multifamily development market, albeit through different companies.

The KRE Group, helmed by Murray and Jonathan Kushner, are planning a big two-tower project at 808 Pavonia Avenue, NJ.com reported. KRE is teaming with Silverstein Properties on the development.

The skyscrapers would be situated behind Loew’s Jersey Theatre. The two towers would reach 55 and 49 stories, and be allowed to exceed the area’s 37-store height limit due to a donation to the Journal Square Cultural Arts Fund.

There would be a total of 1,189 units in the two buildings. The outlay would range from studio apartments to three-bedroom pads. None of the units would be designated as affordable housing.

While the skyscrapers would go up on the site of a parking lot, there will be plenty of parking for residents after the towers are built. The development includes 368 parking spaces and 606 bike spots. Residents will have access to an onsite pool and the developers will also create a green space that can be used for performances and a dog park.

The Jersey City Planning Board will review the plans on Sept. 6.

The KRE Kushners are no strangers to the Journal Square area of Jersey City, responsible for the Journal Squared development. That project has already brought two massive towers to the area and a third broke ground in October.

The Kushners who are not affiliated with KRE have also had a hand in Journal Square. Kushner Companies broke ground on One Journal Square in June after resolving a dispute with the city regarding a tax abatement. The $821 million project will include two 64-story towers, a rebuilt PATH Plaza and a location for Target.

Journal Square could be considered an up-and-coming neighborhood, featuring new rental options and the future redevelopment of the theater into a concert venue. But it could also be an unaffordable one for many, as the Journal Square 2060 Redevelopment Plan doesn’t require affordable housing, enabling developers to erase them in most plans.
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Jersey City to Consider 1,189-Unit Development at 808 Pavonia Avenue





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A stalled high-rise proposal in Jersey City’s Journal Square neighborhood could be re-born via two prominent developers as plans have emerged to revitalize a slew of properties near the Loew’s Jersey Theatre.

A new application has been submitted to rejuvenate several properties with addresses of 808 Pavonia Avenue, 132-140 Van Reipen Avenue, 12 Bryan Place, 813 Pavonia Avenue, 270 Magnolia Avenue, and 54 Journal Square. Jersey Digs reported on two towers that were approved for the site back in 2017, but the development never came to fruition.

Kushner Real Estate (KRE) Group, run by Murray and Jonathan Kushner, are teaming up teaming with New York-based Silverstein Properties on the new endeavor. KRE Group is best known locally for their massive Journal Squared project, while Silverstein is renowned for owning and redeveloping the World Trade Center in Manhattan.

Designed by New York-based Handel Architects, the proposal envisions two towers of 55 and 49 stories directly behind Loew’s Jersey Theatre. The entirety of the project would include a total of 1,189 units, breaking down as 405 studios, 611 one-bedrooms, 149 two-bedrooms, and 24 three-bedroom units.

No affordable housing component is listed on the application, but the development does include some amenities for the community. The proposal features 6,194 square feet of gallery and café space on the taller building’s ground floor and would build a Pavonia Avenue and Van Reipen Avenue “street connector” in an effort to make the stretch more cohesive.

The application also touts a public “art walk” that would border the PATH train tracks running up to Kennedy Boulevard and several green spaces that would include plazas, a dog park, and an outdoor performance space for local artists.

Per a redevelopment agreement with the city, the developers would also make a $3.5 million contribution to the Journal Square Cultural Arts Fund that would allow the two towers to exceed the area’s 37-store height limit.

The towers themselves would include 368 parking spaces within the below-grade levels plus 606 spots for bicycles. Residents would have access to amenities like an onsite pool, roof amenity areas, a karaoke room, golf simulators, billiard rooms, a kid’s playroom, lounges, and co-working spaces.

The design of both structures would be tiered, with the exterior of the buildings utilizing articulated metal panels plus ground floor curtain walls. The first phase of the project would include 595 units, the art gallery and cafe space, 244 parking spaces, and a portion of the pedestrian walkway, while the final portion would sport 594 units, 125 parking spaces, and complete the art walk.

The Journal Square neighborhood has essentially turned into a construction zone as of late with a plethora of towers rising throughout the area. The planning board could soon decide if another major project joins the party, as they are scheduled to hear both a final site plan and subdivision application for 808 Pavonia Avenue during their September 6 meeting.

The public session, which will be held virtually on Zoom, begins at 5:30 p.m. and can be accessed at this link or by using the webinar ID 810 6202 8033.
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Just an update that this has been approved.
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Will be interesting. Gives those Journal Squared towers some company. Don't know much about the area but it's right by the Path station. Does this area have big potential to build out more and more?

Looks pretty landlocked too, bound by the tracks to the right and nestled behind those homes. Huge development for having no direct access to a major street.
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Will be interesting. Gives those Journal Squared towers some company. Don't know much about the area but it's right by the Path station. Does this area have big potential to build out more and more?

Looks pretty landlocked too, bound by the tracks to the right and nestled behind those homes. Huge development for having no direct access to a major street.
There isn't a ton of places left to build out. Journal Square is already one of the densest neighborhoods in the county. BUT there is a proposal for a new Marion PATH station just to west. If that happens, I can see a few more mega towers.
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From October 2022


Two new Journal Square skyscrapers approved in Jersey City


The 1,189-unit mega project will be built over the course of a decade

By Mark Koosau, Staff Writer, Hudson Reporter - October 22, 2022


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In perhaps a decade from now, those who live or walk in the Journal Square neighborhood will be looking up more after two new skyscrapers were approved by the Jersey City Planning Board on Oct. 11.

The approved 1,189-unit mega project will bring two towers, one that is 49-stories tall with 595 residential units, and another that is 55-stories tall with 594 units, on a 2.21 acre site across from the Journal Square PATH Station and near the Loew’s Theatre.


The project will be developed by Kushner Real Estate Group, who also developed the Journal Squared project, and Silverstein Properties, who developed the World Trade Center site in Manhattan, over a decade in two phases, first with the 49-story tower, and then second with the 55-story tower.

The applicant’s attorney, James McCann, explained during the board’s Sept. 6 meeting that the project will include public benefit improvements such as open space and walkways.

“Our project that we are presenting to you tonight will provide and focus on some really incredible open space, landscaping, artwork and art walk that will link the developing arts community in Journal Square,” said McCann.

Going over the project, Leonard Savino of Langin explained that the project will be on five lots totaling 2.21 acres that they will subdivide into two lots. He said a four-level parking garage and separate parking lot on the south part of the site will be demolished to accommodate the development.

He said phase one of the project will start on the south side with the 49-story tower, which will have 235 parking spaces below grade and an overall footprint of 50,049 square feet. The phase will also include a second building that will have a gallery, cafe and rooftop pool, as well as a parking garage entry.

The first phase will also include a vehicular turnaround area to the north of the tower and a pedestrian plaza.

Phase two of the project on the northern end will have the 55-story building that will include 131 parking spaces and a footprint of 10,486 square feet. All the way to the north of the site will be a dog park and other open space.

Gary Handel from Handel Architecture then explained the project will be completing a connection between Journal Squared and Mana Contemporary via an art walk that will begin at JFK Boulevard and go through the project site.


The new project will also include an art walk throughout the whole site. Screenshot via City of Jersey City on YouTube.
He also explained that all of the parking will be below grade in three levels, which will also have bike storage rooms and bike racks.

For the amount of residential units, 34 percent will be studios, 51 percent will be one-bedrooms, 13 percent will be two-bedrooms and three percent will be three-bedrooms. Each tower will also have an upper sky lounge on the top.

During public comment in the Sept. 6 meeting, resident Saro Cutri said that while he thought the application was a “pretty good project”, he voiced concerns over how the property line of it goes right through his property at 810 Pavonia Ave., which he said had gotten Planning Board approval about a year-and-a-half ago to do a four-story building there.


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Long-awaited 1 Journal Square project on track as neighborhood continues to reach for the sky

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With the Journal Squared project nearly complete, its business as a transformative, new type of development for the neighborhood may offer a hint of what’s to come for its peers.

Jonathan Kushner said the available units have a 99.5% occupancy rate with about 65% retention. Of the tenants, about 30% are coming from New York City, 30% are coming from Hudson County and 20% are coming from elsewhere in New Jersey, the KRE president said. The cheapest unit currently available is a one-bedroom listed for $2,956.

Though the project is just six months from completion, Kushner said he’s ready to jump in on the next one.

That project will be two more skyscrapers, 55- and 49-story towers behind the historic Loew’s Jersey Theater, and it will likely be breaking ground next year, Kushner said.

“We love the neighborhood and we’re continuing to buy in the neighborhood, so hopefully more to come,” he said.
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Great news. Two major new towers for Journal Square.

And hopefully the proposed Marion PATH station gets moving. That additional station would really move growth westward.
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