St Boniface Area | Winnipeg | Development

[trueviking]

that's nice....what's the source?

[Biff]

Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

199-201 Marion, 26 rental Units & 1 CRU

Who is the designer of this one? I like it.

[wags_in_the_peg]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CoxO13CA..._web_copy_link

199 & 201 Marion St.

A potential infill development on Marion St. would see a six story mixed use building constructed on an underutilized and dilapidated site.

With underground parking and a CRU on the main level the proposal includes 26 residential units and an art mural on the west wall.

Developer: @jammucapital

[Kinguni]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

There should be at least 1 route through St. B to go heavy (turck) traffic through. Except nobody wanted it in their backyard. So now Provencher and Mairon are both stroads and will stay that way.

There should be no heavy truck routes through the core of the City if there is any hope of the core, including downtown, thriving.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by Kinguni

There should be no heavy truck routes through the core of the City if there is any hope of the core, including downtown, thriving.

Yeah unless they are delivering or working in the area, they just shouldn't be there.

[wags_in_the_peg]

I really like how Le Market on Des Meurons turned out. No CRU in there yet.

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by Kinguni

There should be no heavy truck routes through the core of the City if there is any hope of the core, including downtown, thriving.

I don't disagree. The freeway plans of old would've resolved that. Now through P&M is the fastest route from the east St. Boniface industrial area.

[Kinguni]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

I don't disagree. The freeway plans of old would've resolved that. Now through P&M is the fastest route from the east St. Boniface industrial area.

Fastest doesn't mean the trucks should be going that way. Regulate them to take a longer route that's friendlier to truck traffic. I'm of the firm belief that as long as downtown Winnipeg is seen as an efficient through route it will not thrive. Trouble is we don't have other efficient routes.

[bomberjet]

But the fastest route is the one usually taken. Which is the problem.

I've been saying this for a while now. Dedicate routes around downtown and enforce them. We don't want truck traffic downtown, but also don't want to do anything to provide a decent route around downtown.

This doesn't necessarily require a shitload of new roads and freeways. But maybe some key connection points, such as Archibald across the river to Higgins? That allows truck traffic to bypass downtown to the north. And just use Higgins, Logan, whatever as a route.

[wags_in_the_peg]

this is the first time I've heard it called the "Water Tower District", I kinda of like that and hopefully they restor the water tower to make it prominent. A sliver of the industrial land has hit the market.

this provides an overview of the area, nice that Speers will run through there to Hwy 59
https://shindico.com/email/documents...leBrochure.pdf

Olexa Developments Ltd is creating the Water Tower District, a 165-acre true mixed-use development, consisting of multi-family, retail, office, parklands, and industrial. The development will have sidewalks, interior walking paths, active transportation paths, and connectivity to Winnipeg’s dynamic transportation network. In addition, there will be a controlled intersection at Marion and direct access to Highway 59 (Lagimodiere Blvd.) via Speers Road.

70 acres of industrial lands are part of a 165-acre actual mixed-use development. Ideally located in St. Boniface, the site is well suited for last-mile delivery, and the proximity to the workforce is a great advantage. The Water Tower District is using the concept of a transit-oriented development (TOD) featuring active and traditional transportation options with direct access to Marion Street and Hwy 59 (Lagimodiere Blvd.) It will provide connectivity to major transportation routes.

[esquire]

^ Interesting. It's your classic Shindico project. Seems like an awkward layout for an awkward plot of land.

I wonder if an underpass at Marion and Archibald is still on the table after the debacle that resulted from the last time plans were drawn up and publicly released?

[thebasketballgeek]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ Interesting. It's your classic Shindico project. Seems like an awkward layout for an awkward plot of land.

I wonder if an underpass at Marion and Archibald is still on the table after the debacle that resulted from the last time plans were drawn up and publicly released?

They’re probably just going to add a bike path and call it a day.

[audie]

Given how often they bring up transit and 15 minute citys, how are the bus options in that neck of the woods? The convenience of living there is really going to depend on what kind of commercial retail tenants they can land.

I had forgotten how enormous the old plans for archibald and marion were. I imagine that underpasses on Fermor or Bishop for the same rail line may be the lower-hanging fruit.

[wags_in_the_peg]

they mention it will have transit running through there

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by audie

Given how often they bring up transit and 15 minute citys, how are the bus options in that neck of the woods? The convenience of living there is really going to depend on what kind of commercial retail tenants they can land.

I had forgotten how enormous the old plans for archibald and marion were. I imagine that underpasses on Fermor or Bishop for the same rail line may be the lower-hanging fruit.

Perhaps yes, I think on some level it would make sense to have all three. No indication that the rail lines are going anywhere anytime soon. I think that they should do a rail underpass, similar to Waverly where no real disruption to existing businesses was necessary.

[bomberjet]

Tieing in to the Lag is shit discussion in the Roads thread. They show in that Shindico package for travel times to various parts of the City; using Dugald to 101 then up to 59/101. As opposed to using Lag which is right beside the site. haha

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Tieing in to the Lag is shit discussion in the Roads thread. They show in that Shindico package for travel times to various parts of the City; using Dugald to 101 then up to 59/101. As opposed to using Lag which is right beside the site. haha

That made me chuckle, are drive times that bad??

[bomberjet]

It shouldn't take 26 mins to get from there to 59/101 using Lag. Not sure if construction is part of the current problem. Off peak hours Google Maps says 13 mins.

Anywho, nice to see the site being re-purposed. Not sure why the need to jam housing in the midst of all that. But that is the trend of live/work/play thing.

[Wpg_Guy]

Provencher has been selected as the preferred bike route through st Boniface

St. Boniface to Downtown Walk Bike Project Phase 3

[trueviking]

very very very very good news!