NEW YORK | 740 Eighth Ave (Extell) | 1,067 FT | 53 FLOORS

[Zapatan]

Looks like a giant doobie, it needs a smoke machine at the top for the real deal.

I like it though

[mikevbar1]

I quite like it, actually. The podium looks rough, but the glass paneling on the exterior and conical shape adds to the skyline quite nicely. The taper at the top is a good touch as well. Sure it isn't a complex design, but for an ultra-skinny tower, I like it. Certainly leagues better in terms of originality compared to Tower Fifth. To be honest The rendering in the skyline sells me more so on this than the design on its own, but a building is often more about context than itself anyway so I don't reduce that to just 'perspective' in my opinion.

[JustSomeGuyWho]

Originally Posted by mikevbar1

I quite like it, actually. The podium looks rough, but the glass paneling on the exterior and conical shape adds to the skyline quite nicely. The taper at the top is a good touch as well. Sure it isn't a complex design, but for an ultra-skinny tower, I like it. Certainly leagues better in terms of originality compared to Tower Fifth. To be honest The rendering in the skyline sells me more so on this than the design on its own, but a building is often more about context than itself anyway so I don't reduce that to just 'perspective' in my opinion.

Podium looks like a heat sink.

[chris08876]

Credit: Skyscrapergramer

[JMKeynes]

I’d be surprised if anything tall rises here. I’m expecting something like the Riu Hotel across the street to be built. Perhaps this will be 500’-600’.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by JMKeynes

I’d be surprised if anything tall rises here. I’m expecting something like the Riu Hotel across the street to be built. Perhaps this will be 500’-600’.

That's extremely unlikely, given that Boston Properties assembled massive air rights for this site, and then Extell bought Theater District transferable air rights. I think they can build 1.3 million square feet.

The Riu Hotel sits on the other side of 8th, which has much lower zoning.

[JMKeynes]

Originally Posted by Crawford

That's extremely unlikely, given that Boston Properties assembled massive air rights for this site, and then Extell bought Theater District transferable air rights. I think they can build 1.3 million square feet.

The Riu Hotel sits on the other side of 8th, which has much lower zoning.

I hope that you're correct.

[Zapatan]

I guess the giant cigar still isn't a real proposal? I kinda liked that

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Crawford

That's extremely unlikely, given that Boston Properties assembled massive air rights for this site, and then Extell bought Theater District transferable air rights. I think they can build 1.3 million square feet.

The Riu Hotel sits on the other side of 8th, which has much lower zoning.

Yeah, we know Extell doesn’t bullshit when it comes to development rights and height. Something decent will get built, just not right away.

[chris08876]

The interior demo is always a positive step. Hopefully something worthy rises here. Very prime area.

[chris08876]

Permits Filed For 264 West 46th Street In Midtown, Manhattan

Permits have been filed for a ten-story commercial building at 264 West 46th Street in Midtown, Manhattan. The lot also addressed as 740 Eighth Avenue, is located at the intersection of Eighth Avenue and West 46th Street, and has been speculated to be the site of a supertall. Extell is listed as the owner behind the applications.

The proposed 164-foot-tall development will likely be the podium for a future supertall, yielding 303,365 square feet, with 194,552 square feet designated for commercial space. The steel-based structure will also have a cellar, two sub-cellars, and two penthouses. Additional permits are expected to be filed.

Mario Yao of SLCE Architects is listed as the architect of record.

Just a short walk south is the Times Square-42 Street subway station, serviced by the A, C, E, N, Q, R, W, S, 1, 2, 3, and 7 trains. The buses at the Port Authority Bus Terminal are also within walking distance.

Demolition permits will likely not be needed as the lot is vacant. An estimated completion date has not been announced.

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NYY

[NYguy]

And so another Extell development begins to crank. The owners are listed as 726 Eighth LLC, David Rothstein, who is in charge of construction at Extell.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

[JMKeynes]

Originally Posted by NYguy

And so another Extell development begins to crank. The owners are listed as 726 Eighth LLC, David Rothstein, who is in charge of construction at Extell.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

I expect a squat 700-800' jumbo hotel.

This area doesn't work warrant hyper-expensive condos that would justify the cost of a supertall.

[BuildThemTaller]

Reminds me of the Chicago Spire, but untwisted. I hope this has a better fate.

[JMKeynes]

Originally Posted by BuildThemTaller

Reminds me of the Chicago Spire, but untwisted. I hope this has a better fate.

I think that’s just a concept.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by JMKeynes

I expect a squat 700-800' jumbo hotel.

This area doesn't work warrant hyper-expensive condos that would justify the cost of a supertall.

Neither did 9 DeKalb in Brooklyn, but look at that rise. This is a pretty sizable lot, and Extell has shown more than anyone that they aren't afraid to build tall. I don't believe we've seen the design for what will rise here though. I expect a mixed-use tower. But I don't know if we'll be seeing new hotels for a while.

This is the site that was going to be developed by Related when Extell was pushing for the World Product Center on 34th Street (now 55 Hudson Yards). The swap was meant to be beneficial to both parties, and Extell no doubt saw a better opportunity here, while Related go to include another property in it's development (and keep Extell from using the 1 Hudson Yards name).

This is what Extell gave up...


https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...36&postcount=8


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That was the proposal for the site that would become Related's 55 Hudson Yards. We have yet to see what Barnett will do for Related's former site on 8th Avenue.



https://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/18/n...son-yards.html

Developer May Swap Land for More in Hudson Yards

By Charles V. Bagli
May 17, 2013

There has never been a lot of love lost between the rival developers Gary Barnett of Extell and Stephen M. Ross of Related Companies.

But the two men, both prolific builders, are putting aside their differences long enough to exchange properties and money on the real estate chessboard known as Manhattan.

On Friday afternoon, the two sides were exchanging deal documents under which Mr. Ross would agree to buy a one-acre site owned by Mr. Barnett on the east side of 11th Avenue, between 33rd and 34th Streets, for an undisclosed sum, according to three people who have been briefed on the negotiations but were not authorized to discuss the agreement.

At the same time, Related Companies and Boston Properties would sell Extell a small parcel on the east side of Eighth Avenue, between 45th and 46th Streets, where Related and Boston had once wanted to build an office tower.

.....Mr. Barnett and a partner have long owned the parcel just north of the rail yard, at the corner of 33rd Street and 11th Avenue, where Mr. Barnett wanted to build his own 56-story office tower, called One Hudson Yards.

Mr. Barnett had stymied Related’s plan to build an office tower at the Eighth Avenue property. He leads a group that owns an adjoining parcel, where they could now build an even larger tower.

[JMKeynes]

I recall that.

Good point re: 9 DeKalb.

I'd like something very tall here, but I think that Extell's site on 5th and 46th is even more important. I fear that a fat, L-shaped box may rise there.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by JMKeynes

I recall that.

Good point re: 9 DeKalb.

I'd like something very tall here, but I think that Extell's site on 5th and 46th is even more important. I fear that a fat, L-shaped box may rise there.

Both sites can support nice development, just like the city itself can see multiple developments at the same time. Extell alone put up CPT and 1 MSq and Citypoint at basically the same time. It will probably be a while before anything rises on either site, but good to get the ball rolling and ready.

[JMKeynes]

Another site where I hope for a supertall is the full-block Manhattan Hotel in Times Sq which the group from Qatar owns.

[SkyHigher]

Originally Posted by JMKeynes

Another site where I hope for a supertall is the full-block Manhattan Hotel in Times Sq which the group from Qatar owns.

Yeh I hope that goes way beyond 1500ft!