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Old Posted Sep 10, 2012, 4:17 PM
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I remember watching a documentary about the memorial once. Can't remember which one, though. A guy said that the pools are slightly smaller than the dimensions of the original towers, and that this basically meant that when standing by the bronze panels of the pools, you would actually be inside the towers (if they had still been there, of course).

Is this true? I have been trying to find out what the exact dimensions of the pools are, but "slightly smaller" is the only answer I have found.
This image may help. The first row of trees surrounding each pool marks the "true" footprint of the tower, so anyone standing next to the pools would indeed be standing in the footprint of the tower.


From: http://archrecord.construction.com/f...ade-Center.asp

Not sure what the actual dimensions of the pools are though.
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NY governor: Agreement reached on Sept. 11 museum

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(09/10/12) NEW YORK (AP) - New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo says an agreement that paves the way for the completion of the Sept. 11 museum has been reached a day before the 11th anniversary of the terror attacks.

Cuomo announced the agreement between the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and the foundation that controls the National September 11 Memorial & Museum on Monday. The Port Authority owns the World Trade Center site.

The museum once was scheduled to open this year. Work slowed late last year when the subcontractors at the site stopped getting paid.

Almost 4.5 million people have visited the accompanying outdoor memorial since it opened last September.




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Were the pools not built on the remnants of the original foundations?
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2012, 10:44 AM
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Thanks, Don098 and Chapelo.

A post on the first page of this thread says the pools are 194 by 194 feet.
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Were the pools not built on the remnants of the original foundations?
Yes, the pools are on the footprints of the original towers
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Agreement Will Restart Work on Sept. 11 Museum

After nearly a year of discord and delay, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo reached an agreement on Monday to resume construction of the Sept. 11 museum at ground zero in Manhattan.

In negotiations over the weekend, aides to Mr. Bloomberg and Mr. Cuomo resolved longstanding disputes over which government agencies would pay for the costs of the museum and which officials would oversee it. Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey then agreed to the arrangement.

Mr. Christie and Mr. Cuomo share control over the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, while Mr. Bloomberg heads the Sept. 11 foundation, which oversees the national memorial and museum at the former World Trade Center site and the annual commemoration.

“I’m very gratified that on the eve of this important anniversary we are able to announce an agreement that will ensure the completion of the 9/11 museum,” Mr. Bloomberg said in a statement Monday night. He added that the agreement ensured that construction “will be restarted very soon and will not stop until the museum is completed.”

The tentative resolution involves additional cash payments from the Sept. 11 foundation for construction costs, closer coordination among the parties and the creation of an advisory committee to resolve disputes.

The museum, dedicated to documenting the attack and honoring its victims, had been scheduled to open in a formal ceremony on the attack’s 11th anniversary on Tuesday, but construction work largely stopped after the 10th anniversary. Both sides say they are now hoping that the museum, which sits seven stories below street level, will open by the end of 2013, as Mayor Bloomberg’s term ends. Construction is expected to resume by the end of the month.
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Finally!!!! Major news.
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Published: Tuesday, 11 Sep 2012 | 8:09 PM ET

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World Trade Center museum deal may lead to land sale: sources

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(Reuters) - A long-delayed sale of land that is part of the World Trade Center redevelopment could become a reality under a new accord between the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and the National September 11 Memorial and Museum, four sources familiar with the matter said on Tuesday.

The property, called Site 5, could fetch $135 million to $200 million, two of the sources said.

Site 5 is owned by the Lower Manhattan Development Corp, a city-state agency created to rebuild that part of the city after the September 11, 2001 attacks. Across from the World Trade Center, the land had been occupied by the Deutsche Bank building, which was damaged in the attacks and later demolished.

The accord between the Port Authority and National September 11 Memorial & Museum announced on Monday obliges the Lower Manhattan Development Corp to fulfill a 2006 agreement by turning Site 5 over to the Port Authority.

In exchange, the Port Authority would give the museum title to the eight acres of land it and the memorial occupy on the 16-acre (6.5 hectare) World Trade Center site. The memorial honors nearly 3,000 people who perished as a result of the attacks.

"Under the 2006 agreement, it (Site 5) is supposed to be swapped for the eight acres on which the museum and memorial are located," Port Authority Vice Chairman Scott Rechler told Reuters on Tuesday after a service for 84 Port Authority workers who were killed on September 11.

The land swaps were delayed by a political standoff over who would run the annual September 11 anniversary ceremonies held on the memorial plaza, two of the sources said. The sources asked for anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the matter.

The governors of New York and New Jersey, who run the Port Authority, wanted more control over the ceremonies.

The annual memorial has been managed by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg because he chairs the foundation that runs the museum and memorial, and the city's police are responsible for security.

The deal gives the two sides six months to finalize the land swaps. One of the sources said that if only part of Site 5 were to be transferred to the Port Authority, New York state's Public Authorities Control Board might have to approve the deal, which could complicate the matter.

MORE MONEY FOR PORT AUTHORITY

The Port Authority owns the World Trade Center complex, which it is rebuilding with developer Larry Silverstein. The Port Authority's projects include the underground museum.

Last year, Port Authority stopped building the nearly $1.3 billion museum because it was arguing with the museum foundation over cost overruns.

Monday's accord cleared the way for New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie to attend Tuesday's 11th anniversary ceremony by resolving the cost dispute and creating a coordinating committee to handle such events.

In July, the foundation said politicians would be excluded from speaking roles to focus on victims' families.

The sources said this pressured Christie and Cuomo to reach the accord with Bloomberg on Monday. The deal clears the way for work on the museum to resume in October, Rechler said. The project should be finished by late 2013 or early 2014, he said.


A spokeswoman for Bloomberg declined to comment. Cuomo's spokesmen had no immediate comment, and a spokesman for Christie referred questions to the Port Authority. No politicians spoke at Tuesday's memorial.

Unlike the World Trade Center land, which can only be used for commercial development, Site 5 can be used for apartments, a hotel or offices.

"The site would be most valuable if it supported apartments with a hotel on the lower floors," said Robert Von Ancken, chairman of Landauer Valuation & Advisory, a division of Newmark Grubb Knight Frank.

A combined hotel and apartments could sell for between $135 million and $150 million, based on comparable sales in the area, the height of the building and the market at the time, he said.

The Port Authority could use the cash as it struggles to find funds for the World Trade Center and airport, bridge and tunnel projects.

(Reporting By Joan Gralla; Additional reporting by Ilania Jonas)
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So does that mean that Tower 5 will be built?
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Was it ever considered to incorporate the spotlights on the building on West St into the design of the memorial pools? That way they would actually be in the spot the towers stood and would be the correct size as well.
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I sure hope that they can integrate it into the design of the pools. That way, every year, it would seem as if the Twins were still standing along with the new WTC. Would have been a bit more symbolic than it is already.
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We actually had this discussion last year. There are some answers earlier in the thread around this time if you're curious.
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Thanks, Don098 and Chapelo.

A post on the first page of this thread says the pools are 194 by 194 feet.
I think Zensteeldude once posted a picture showing the original tower footings sitting outside the steel structure that was framing the memorial pools.

Can't seem to find the post.
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My ex-boyfriend (and still very close friend) during the reading of the names, September 11, 2012, including his brother's name; Ken Basnicki, who perished in the North Tower.


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And touching his brother's name on the memorial for the first time.




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Could be the first of the much talked about direct link to the site...


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/p..._content=Local

PA eyes a new PATH to Newark Airport

By JENNIFER FERMINO
September 21, 2012

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The Port Authority yesterday announced it is considering extending the PATH train to Newark Airport — the first step in long-awaited plans to ease the ride between the airport and lower Manhattan. The preliminary plan calls for extending the World Trade Center-Newark line from its terminus at Newark Penn Station to the existing Northeast Corridor Rail Link Station, which is currently served by NJ Transit and Amtrak. From there, fliers can take the Newark AirTrain. The agency’s board yesterday approved plans to formally begin studying the extension.

“Taking a hard look at extending the PATH line in a fiscally responsible manner makes sense,” said Executive Director Pat Foye. Potential benefits to the region include more than $600 million in design and construction activity, in addition to adding permanent jobs when complete. Some 15 percent of Newark Liberty Airport customers come from Manhattan, with another 9 percent of fliers coming from other parts of the city and state.
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