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Originally Posted by vid
Umm... no, that isn't how crown assets work. The crown (the inanimate object with all the jewels on it which is also the physical embodiment of the authority of our state) owns the land. The queen is just the person that that crown uses to make its wishes known, and we can get rid of both if we want, without affecting the ownership of that land. If the crown disappears, it simply becomes provincial or federal property. If the Queen disappears and we elect a head of state while maintaining the Crown (either physically or simply legally) it remains crown land. The only people making money from it is the government, which we elect, and which serves us.
There is no "scheme" by the Queen to rake in billions of dollars of rent from Crown land, unless you're trying to make some very obtuse argument against the existence of tax.
At this point in the history of the monarchy, the Queen serves us. Just like a president does, in theory.
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Go look it up man, I'm not even pulling your leg here. What you say makes sense in theory but Federal and Provincial can use 'crown' resources for 'their benefit' they do not own the lands, Federal law superceds provincial law but the CROWN entity itself superceds all.
I am not a constitutionalist though, I'm sure maybe you have more knowledge on the structure of the constitution but all I stated is what I learned in relation to 'Crown' Land+Holdings, which are only granted for use under a guise of 'generosity'.
The "CROWN" is a legitimate trust run out of central London by suit and tie guys for the Queen. I wish I made this shit up, but I didn't. I had to be force fed all this info one long afternoon when my Uncle decided to teach me about how "Canada works" it was full of (3) 4hr documentaries and boring text and papers, but what I got out of it was that the Queen (Crown) has control of 85% of Canada's land, basically all the land we don't live on, and can do what it wants with it. It has never exercised this right out of decency, but it has the power to sell it off to China next week if it wanted too.
I can be this and will try to look up a instance where a certain deal or privatization scheme was shot down by the Queens bureaucrats (order-in-council) since it must of not of jived right with the Trust in Central London. The Queen's Privy has always been this elusive group to me, because through this avenue laws can be shot down without going through traditional parliamentary ranks and process. in "recommendation" to the queen any deals effect crown holdings that don't jive right can be terminated.
I agree with you that there is a lot of formal crap that is all mostly show with our Monarchy, but I've always learned if you follow the money you can usually unearth most truths, Canada is a resource state and the majority of our wealth and power is extracted from this. A back track of deals and incidents regarding Crown holdings would probably unveil a lot.
The premise is that the CDN government and all 35-40 million of us would never use up all our resources to affect its long term value, thus the Queens and Crowns holdings are safe for the foreseeable future. I've been able to dig stuff up on the net on this from time to time, majority of the stuff I was exposed to was before the internet was a big thing and most was part of my Uncles vast library of 'random knowledge', The movies we're VHS and old dictaflim with those audio tapes (yikes).
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