SAN FRANCISCO | 5M Development | 470, 400, 200 & 174 FT | 40 FLOORS - Page 8

ardecila · #**141** Posted **Dec 31, 2020, 3:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by viewguysf

I think the lighter weight steel is for screening to hide the mechanical penthouse and finish off the top of the tower. We saw the same thing on 555 Mission, NEMA (not well done), and many other buildings, especially Salesforce Tower. You can see structural steel for a mechanical penthouse behind the lightweight steel.

Looks like a galvanized coating; possibly all that steel will be exposed to the elements as part of an elaborate rooftop screen.

Sometimes you will also see red steel - this is steel that has been coated in a red primer and will be painted for an exposed look (in a skyscraper this usually requires intumescent coating for fireproofing which is very expensive).

Jerry of San Fran · #**142** Posted **Jan 3, 2021, 7:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by ardecila

Looks like a galvanized coating; possibly all that steel will be exposed to the elements as part of an elaborate rooftop screen.

Sometimes you will also see red steel - this is steel that has been coated in a red primer and will be painted for an exposed look (in a skyscraper this usually requires intumescent coating for fireproofing which is very expensive).

ardecila- thanks for the information. I will be keeping an eye on it.

timbad · #**143** Posted **Jan 10, 2021, 11:56 PM**

Mission St senior housing

along 5th St

homebucket · #**144** Posted **Jan 26, 2021, 4:14 AM**

Couldn't find this anywhere, but does anyone know how much total parking this project includes?

timbad · #**145** Posted **Jan 26, 2021, 5:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by homebucket

Couldn't find this anywhere, but does anyone know how much total parking this project includes?

hm yeah, the only thing I see is in post 24 where it mentions

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the development's planned parking will be reduced from 463 to 331 spaces.

... but that was as of end 2015, no idea if still valid

BobbyMucho · #**146** Posted **Jan 26, 2021, 7:39 PM**

I just skimmed the most recent plans sumbitted to planning and it mentions a ratio of 0.5 for each unit—wherever that nets out.

homebucket · #**147** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 5:46 PM**

Saw this on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisc...rainy_skyline/

homebucket · #**148** Posted **Jan 27, 2021, 6:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by timbad

hm yeah, the only thing I see is in post 24 where it mentions

... but that was as of end 2015, no idea if still valid

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Originally Posted by BobbyMucho

I just skimmed the most recent plans sumbitted to planning and it mentions a ratio of 0.5 for each unit—wherever that nets out.

Oh ok. I think 0.5 spaces per unit comes out to 351 (702 total units), so pretty close to 331.

I was just curious since there's a very similar mixed use project down south (also associated with a newspaper company), but it's got 1700+ parking spaces to 1,127 units, on a 5 story podium to boot. All the while being directly across the street from an under construction subway station with 2 lines, and a block away from an existing subway station also with 2 lines.

Pretty striking difference in parking philosophies.

gillynova · #**149** Posted **Feb 1, 2021, 6:39 PM**

5M:

Different vantage point:

From Alameda:

From Mission Bay:

BobbyMucho · #**150** Posted **Feb 2, 2021, 8:19 PM**

A few shots of the progress on cladding installation that I'm not sure we've had recently:

434 Minna from the back, over the lot that'll become the park. This BMR structure might not actually look so bad, with its subtly gradient skin. Much higher quality than I figured.

A few closer shots of 415 Natoma from the same position but facing SE (Tempest is just out of frame on the right).

Given the building's scale, you'd think the alley would be constricted or feel claustrophobic, but it's surprisingly open and airy. The setbacks and undulations help a lot.

The lobby / cafe that (hopefully) fills this corner space will surely be great.

Really excited to see and feel how much this internal alley space and park change in the next year or two.

timbad · #**151** Posted **Feb 3, 2021, 8:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by BobbyMucho

...

Really excited to see and feel how much this internal alley space and park change in the next year or two.

me too, thanks for that good post!

Jerry of San Fran · #**152** Posted **Feb 4, 2021, 9:41 PM**

Purple? From my distant view the vertical design looks like a purple color which I like very much.

5M

BobbyMucho · #**153** Posted **Feb 4, 2021, 10:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jerry of San Fran

Purple? From my distant view the vertical design looks like a purple color which I like very much.

5M

Nice catch!

I didn't actually see any of the vertical panels up for that wall when I was at the site.

I did, however, see the spec wall prior to any cladding being hung, and it looked WAY more blue/purple than expected or noticed in renderings.

homebucket · #**154** Posted **Feb 5, 2021, 12:11 AM**

Great shots. Thanks for the update!

timbad · #**155** Posted **Feb 11, 2021, 9:21 AM**

Mission St building

Fifth St

Pedestrian · #**156** Posted **Feb 11, 2021, 9:55 PM**

^^So is it really purple . . . in natural light?

Jerry of San Fran · #**157** Posted **Feb 12, 2021, 9:54 PM**

02/12/2021 - one more floor clad since my last photo. This was taken in full sunlight today from my apartment in the Civic Center about 1 mile away. I think the color is fairly accurate - note the other colors in the photo.

5M - San Francisco

Jerry of San Fran · #**158** Posted **Feb 13, 2021, 10:30 PM**

5M has changed the skyline view from the civic center plaza.

San Francisco Civic Center Plaza View

gillynova · #**159** Posted **Feb 14, 2021, 5:41 PM**

5M

From Union Square:

timbad · #**160** Posted **Feb 15, 2021, 12:09 AM**

from Sixth and Natoma, yesterday

I went by it in the sunshine and the accents in question did look basically indigo to me in person as far as I could tell, fwiw