DETROIT | Hudson's Detroit | 685 FT & 240 FT | 49 & 14 FLOORS - Page 33

DZH22 · #**641** Posted **Mar 6, 2020, 10:56 PM**

If it does end up at 684', then here's another close approximation, Boston's 685' Millennium Tower. (tallest in this pic) It's too bad they didn't just announce it at 684' to begin with. Then nobody here would be disappointed!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49404494411_3708829b44_h.jpg IMG_9773 by David Z, on Flickr

pianowizard · #**642** Posted **Mar 7, 2020, 5:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan

here are some recent shots of WPE that give a good sense of how tall a building of that kinda height is.

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Originally Posted by DZH22

If it does end up at 684', then here's another close approximation, Boston's 685' Millennium Tower. (tallest in this pic) It's too bad they didn't just announce it at 684' to begin with. Then nobody here would be disappointed!

Putting Hudson Tower in the context of these other cities makes me realize how weak Detroit's skyline is. Now I am disappointed!

The North One · #**643** Posted **Mar 7, 2020, 5:51 PM**

Context of what? Boston's tallest is about the same height as the ren cen.

It's not weak, it just isn't obnoxiously tall.

Steely Dan · #**644** Posted **Mar 7, 2020, 8:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by pianowizard

Putting Hudson Tower in the context of these other cities makes me realize how weak Detroit's skyline is. Now I am disappointed!

But the context of other cities' skylines is an irrelevant context for this tower.

The only context that really matters is the context of the other skyscrapers that this new tower will stand among.

That's why I redid the diagram to show the new height relative to other buildings actually in the Detroit skyline.

I made the first diagram showing the height shrink relative to those two Chicago towers because that was what was most immediately available, but then I realized how silly of a comparison that was.

The Detroit skyline diagram is the one that actually matters. And within that context, this new tower, even with the height reduction, will still be a very big deal.

animatedmartian · #**645** Posted **Mar 8, 2020, 12:20 AM**

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here it is @ 684' with its actual detroit siblings, not those random chicago towers.

same caveat as before, this is just a quick and dirty 75% vertical down-scaling.

So going by this and using Mr Hemi's renderings from when the tower design was shown as 800 feet...

This is very approximate as from this location, the Penobscot tower is a 1 or 2 blocks closer to the viewer and the Ren Cen a few blocks away (and I don't feel like adjusting for perspective).

Either, it's pretty obvious the Hudson's tower will hold its own even at 684.

For comparison, this is what 912 would look like from a similar direction. It's pretty dominating at this height although a weighty balance to the size of the Ren Cen.

800 Feet.

912 feet.

animatedmartian · #**646** Posted **Mar 17, 2020, 12:26 AM**

Drumroll please...

The final official height of the tower will be 680 feet. *plus or minus a few feet.

225,000 square feet will be residential made up of 150 units.

286,000 square feet will be a hotel with 200 - 250 rooms.

The final height will need approval by the city Board of Zoning Appeals set to occur March 31.

The overall project is expected to be complete by 2023.

https://www.crainsdetroit.com/real-e...ower-be-second

CrazyCres · #**647** Posted **Mar 17, 2020, 1:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by animatedmartian

Drumroll please...

The final official height of the tower will be 680 feet. *plus or minus a few feet.

225,000 square feet will be residential made up of 150 units.

286,000 square feet will be a hotel with 200 - 250 rooms.

The final height will need approval by the city Board of Zoning Appeals set to occur March 31.

The overall project is expected to be complete by 2023.

https://www.crainsdetroit.com/real-e...ower-be-second

Any renders?

animatedmartian · #**648** Posted **Mar 17, 2020, 2:03 AM**

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Any renders?

Nothing new provided in the article and no mention of any other possible design changes. I suspect come the BoZA meeting a final render will be provided.

uaarkson · #**649** Posted **Mar 17, 2020, 8:13 PM**

If they can get the massing right (complimentary to Penobscott particularly) then this should still end up looking great on the skyline. Along with the Monroe development It'll be a much needed shot of modernity to the architecture of the city. Detroit will get a signature tall tower within the next 15 years, mark my words.

CrazyCres · #**650** Posted **Mar 17, 2020, 8:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by uaarkson

Detroit will get a signature tall tower within the next 15 years, mark my words.

Let's hope so my dude.

rivernorthlurker · #**651** Posted **Mar 21, 2020, 9:18 PM**

From https://detroit.curbed.com/2020/3/20...s-construction

Breakdown of use

225,000 square feet of residential (150 units)
286,000 square feet of hotel (200 to 250 rooms)
402,000 square feet of office
127,000 square feet of event space
18,000 square feet of retail

This is really excellent news in spite of the height chop. Not just a residential tower. Previously there was some uncertainty around the hotel component. I've also seen in news releases quoted 'up to 310,000 sq ft of commercial' and now this announcement exceeds that.

78% by sqft will be hotel/office/event/retail will really invigorate downtown Detroit big time and serve as an anchor for future dev. Tallest will have to wait but this being realized will still be huge for downtown Detroit.

CrazyCres · #**652** Posted **Mar 24, 2020, 11:47 PM**

There was no activity at the site today, so does that mean that the stay-at-home order applies to construction?

DetroitSportsFan · #**653** Posted **Mar 25, 2020, 12:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by CrazyCres

There was no activity at the site today, so does that mean that the stay-at-home order applies to construction?

There was no activity at the tcf tower site either, so I’m assuming it does.

animatedmartian · #**654** Posted **Mar 25, 2020, 6:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by CrazyCres

There was no activity at the site today, so does that mean that the stay-at-home order applies to construction?

For private businesses, yes. The only construction that's exempt are government projects (roads, bridges, water and sewage, etc) and anything critical to public health and safety.

rivernorthlurker · #**655** Posted **Mar 28, 2020, 11:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by animatedmartian

For private businesses, yes. The only construction that's exempt are government projects (roads, bridges, water and sewage, etc) and anything critical to public health and safety.

This project can't catch a break!

seabee1526 · #**656** Posted **Apr 29, 2020, 2:23 PM**

It is looking like May 7 will be the date Michigan will "allow" construction workers back on the job.

CrazyCres · #**657** Posted **May 7, 2020, 2:59 PM**

Construction will Resume at the Hudsons site today still right?

animatedmartian · #**658** Posted **May 8, 2020, 7:32 AM**

Workers are scheduled to return Monday, May 11th.

CrazyCres · #**659** Posted **May 8, 2020, 4:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by animatedmartian

Workers are scheduled to return Monday, May 11th.

DZH22 · #**660** Posted **May 10, 2020, 3:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by The North One

Context of what? Boston's tallest is about the same height as the ren cen.

Not entirely true. Detroit has old school skyline style that I would kill for here. But Boston's skyline is substantially larger. 3 tallest buildings (all to the roof) and a 24-9 lead in 150 meter buildings.

Of course, if Hudson Tower was still 912' as shows in the diagram, that would be a different story! If it makes you feel better, our Winthrop Square Tower also U/C was originally proposed over 1000', then seriously proposed at/over 750', then highly expected to come in at 725', and now like you we're just happy to have another 200m building!

Boston vs Detroit by David Z, on Flickr