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Old Posted Aug 31, 2022, 5:26 PM
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What is going on in that last picture? is there not a vertical column supporting the diagonals?
It's hard to tell exactly what's going on with the support column. It could just be obscured.

Here's the render of the finished building in case this helps your understanding.
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2022, 7:52 PM
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What is going on in that last picture? is there not a vertical column supporting the diagonals?


I brightened under the formwork to reveal the support column.
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2022, 8:56 PM
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2022, 10:25 PM
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I brightened under the formwork to reveal the support column.
Thanks Solar. It's very clear there.
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I noticed there was fencing up at 225 N. Elizabeth.

The latest news was they were shooting for a late Q3 start. Permits are currently pending approval.

https://sterlingbay.com/properties/225-n-elizabeth/
08.31.22
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What is going on in that last picture? is there not a vertical column supporting the diagonals?
The reason for all the scaffolding and bracing is to support the outward thrust of the diagonals. They need to provide that temporary support until the top side of the triangle is fully poured and cured - could be 3-4 weeks for a full cure.

I'm interested to see how they reinforce the top side of the triangle - lots of tension load there so I expect it to be pretty dense with rebar.
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Thanks for the visual update!

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Old Posted Sep 1, 2022, 3:28 PM
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It appears 1050 W Van Buren is close to topping out (unofficial).


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Is the V bracing unique to Chicago because it seems like the new trend here or is it universal?....300M,BoA,BMO
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Old Posted Sep 1, 2022, 3:58 PM
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Its a pretty common solution to cantilevers. Also worth noting that Geottsch does a lot of copy paste of their designs. A majority of those buildings you're seeing are designed by them.
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Its a pretty common solution to cantilevers. Also worth noting that Geottsch does a lot of copy paste of their designs. A majority of those buildings you're seeing are designed by them.
You might be thinking of bKL, not Goettsch.

I dunno if I agree about copy/paste, but they did both 160 N Morgan and 300 N Michigan with Sterling Bay.
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You might be thinking of bKL, not Goettsch.

I dunno if I agree about copy/paste, but they did both 160 N Morgan and 300 N Michigan with Sterling Bay.
Speaking of 300 N Michigan: I walked by it in person for the first time this week -- lovely addition to the streetscape there. First couple of levels are the modern-day equivalent of the Manufacturers building on 5th Ave. by SOM.
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I hate how 150 and 110 look similar especially since with the similar height. And the top of 150 not being symmetrical is annoying and ugly. This “blue wall” is architecturally disappointing.
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^ Individually I thing each of the towers are great, but as a conglomerate I agree with your criticism. One benefit though is they help bridge the West Loop's skyline with the rest of the Loop
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Hopefully these towers will blend into the background more in the future.

I posted this little rundown of future projects located in Chicago's densest "one mile radius" area in a thread in city discussions. Nobody really reacted, but you all might find it more interesting like I did.

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--Chicago (River North), 222 W Erie: 134,653
--Chicago (Loop), 348 Lake, 112,275


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It will be interesting to look at these numbers in 10 years since a chunk of this area is empty/industrial. My guess is the center mark with the highest population will move ever so slightly South with Fulton Market putting up more residential. Even without moving the center, the population around 222 W Erie could increase substantially with the addition 15,000 units just based on current construction and future plans. Bringing the population more on par with Los Angeles and San Francisco.

2,656 units at North Union
1,058 units at the approved Cabrini Green phase 2 development that just makes it in.
2,650 units at Halsted Point
1,000 potential units at the site Onni bought between Halsted Point and the Casino site
4,000 estimated (by me) units for the Casino District
1,500 units from NOMA
250 Units at One Fulton Market
227 units from HUGO
200 at 808 N Cleveland
168 units at 741 N Wells

Most likely the residents of the 812 units from One Chicago weren't counted
Not sure if the 300 units at 900 W Randolph will make the cut
I actually forgot 344 N Canal St (343 residential units) and 527 W Kinzie St (288 residential units), which brings it closer to 16,000 units total.
Depending on how many residents per unit and how many more projects on top of these pop up this area could even be more comparable to Brooklyn in the future.

Here's some other cities for comparison:
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Residents in one-mile radius, 2022:
--New York (Manhattan), 135 Crosby: 271,114
--New York (Manhattan), 102 W 116th: 225,468
--New York (Manhattan), 50 W 34th: 208,104
--New York (Manhattan), 1008 Ave of the Americas: 205,284
--New York (Manhattan), 50 Central Park S: 203,678
--New York (Brooklyn), 276 Livingston: 167,238
--San Francisco (north Tenderloin), 605 Ellis: 150,401
--Los Angeles (Koreatown), 3324 Wilshire: 147,470
--San Francisco (Civic Center, S Tenderloin), 350 Ellis: 141,826
--Chicago (River North), 222 W Erie: 134,653
--Chicago (Loop), 348 Lake, 112,275
--Boston, 100 Clarendon (Back Bay Station): 108,915
--Seattle (Downtown), 906 Pine: 108,515
--Los Angeles (Downtown), 601 S Figueroa: 101,773
--Philadelphia, 1300 Locust: 98,852 (similar a few blocks south)
--Miami, 33 SW 2nd: 89,926 (dense area is relatively narrow)
--DC, 1030 15th St NW: 80,858

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Hopefully these towers will blend into the background more in the future.

I posted this little rundown of future projects located in Chicago's densest "one mile radius" area in a thread in city discussions. Nobody really reacted, but you all might find it more interesting like I did.







I actually forgot 344 N Canal St (343 residential units) and (288 residential units), which brings it closer to 16,000 units total.
Depending on how many residents per unit and how many more projects on top of these pop up this area could even be more comparable to Brooklyn in the future.

Here's some other cities for comparison:
NOMA is going to have 2,269 over two planned developments.
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Old Posted Sep 4, 2022, 12:42 PM
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NOMA is going to have 2,269 over two planned developments.
Updating this number and adding up the projects I have listed comes out to 16,221 units. This doesn’t include the 564 potential units at Tribune Tower East, 373 units at 354 N Union, 370 units at 725 W Randolph, and 413 units at 640 W Washington. On top of bringing the total number to 17,941 units, if completed 640 W Washington and 725 W Randolph will help break up that glass wall from the West especially from Randolph.
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I hate how 150 and 110 look similar especially since with the similar height. And the top of 150 not being symmetrical is annoying and ugly. This “blue wall” is architecturally disappointing.
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^ Individually I thing each of the towers are great, but as a conglomerate I agree with your criticism.
Quoted for truth! This cluster needs to be balanced by buildings that are less glassy, or at least less blue.
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