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Old Posted Oct 10, 2020, 3:50 AM
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PHILADELPHIA | 115 S. 19th Street | 611 FT | 54 FLOORS

About time Philly got some skinny 'scrapers

Title: 115 S 19th Street
Architect: DAS
Developer: Pearl
Location: 113-121 South 19th Street, Philadelphia, PA
District: Center City
Neighborhood: Rittenhouse Square
Floors: 54
Height: 611 FT







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Great height and a nice tower. It's just a shame they decided to plop that attractive tower on that boring base. It's an overused formula where a contemporary tower is set back on a traditional, 3-4 story, red brick base in some sort of lame attempt to blend in and downplay the tower's presence.

If the base matched the tower and it wasn't set back, this building would be so much better. Even if zoning required the setback, why not extend the design and materials from the tower down to the base?

This is obviously 1000% better than what's there now and will be a great addition to the skyline. The overall design could be a bit more imaginative.
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If the base matched the tower and it wasn't set back, this building would be so much better.
Those are existing buildings, not something the architect dreamed up. They are
keeping the fronts and demoing the rear portions.
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I remembered now why I stopped posting here.
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I remembered now why I stopped posting here.
I appreciated your point of view, McBane. mcgrath at times does sound like an online bully with his comments, even though I too appreciate most of his contributions. Let's all be friendly nerds now and celebrate building great things.
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I remembered now why I stopped posting here.
Relax. You compared a bunch of excellent and very recognizable Victorian era historic buildings to the the cheap pre fabricated brick base of 2116 Chestnut. Is some ribbing not in order?

And honestly I don't really think how often you visit center city, should necessarily have an impact on whether or not you can have opinions on development here. A lot of your input is worthwhile.
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and honestly i don't really think how often you visit center city, should necessarily have an impact on whether or not you can have opinions on development here. A lot of your input is worthwhile.
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Boom! Build it. They're not effin' around with this one.
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Great height and a nice tower. It's just a shame they decided to plop that attractive tower on that boring base. It's an overused formula where a contemporary tower is set back on a traditional, 3-4 story, red brick base in some sort of lame attempt to blend in and downplay the tower's presence.

If the base matched the tower and it wasn't set back, this building would be so much better. Even if zoning required the setback, why not extend the design and materials from the tower down to the base?

This is obviously 1000% better than what's there now and will be a great addition to the skyline. The overall design could be a bit more imaginative.
You're always outing yourself as a suburbanite

Just kidding, but as GtownFriend mentioned, these buildings have been here forever. To be fair to you, in the rendering they look a bit different because they're all unpainted but currently most of these buildings are painted like an off white and the second one from the corner is the florist by rittenhouse square that has had a mural of flowers on the front for the past few years: https://goo.gl/maps/teNvtuqACBgfck517

Keeping them isn't even an architectural choice. They're historically protected or at least the 19th street facing part of them is.
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I don't think this will win any design awards, but it is a nice looking building. And you're right, it is time Philly had some skinny skyscrapers. There are a number of buildings in the city that are twice as wide and half as tall as I think they should be, like the Kennedy House:

Such a waste of real estate, but most of them were built before 1Lib broke the City Hall height limit.
Also, retaining the houses at the base annoys me. I don't know whether they are historically significant or anything, but I think it separates the base from the tower. They are at two different scales, and they do not really talk to one another. It reminds me of the Hearst Tower in NYC, where they have the original historical building retained at the base then the Foster-designed tower built on top of it. A weird marriage.

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It's just a shame they decided to plop that attractive tower on that boring base.
ffs. Have you ever been here?

This is a huge win.

Also: No parking!
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Great height and a nice tower. It's just a shame they decided to plop that attractive tower on that boring base. It's an overused formula where a contemporary tower is set back on a traditional, 3-4 story, red brick base in some sort of lame attempt to blend in and downplay the tower's presence.

If the base matched the tower and it wasn't set back, this building would be so much better. Even if zoning required the setback, why not extend the design and materials from the tower down to the base?

This is obviously 1000% better than what's there now and will be a great addition to the skyline. The overall design could be a bit more imaginative.
Could there have been a worse first comment on this thread?

Also, as someone else noted, NO PARKING!!!!!!!
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Could there have been a worse first comment on this thread?

Also, as someone else noted, NO PARKING!!!!!!!
Nope, nope there couldn't. Me like the tower AND the preservation.
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ANOTHER 500-foot+ residential tower for Philly?! This whole area is going gangbusters.
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This is awesome looking! Nice height too!
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Interesting choice of cladding color combo. No blue glass...yay! Building will stand out.
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Hell yeah! Build it. Looks awesome.
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Yeah, to echo above, I'm not sure McBane has ever been to Philly. That corner in particular is one of the most photographed spots because you get great Victorian/Philly architecture (old, historically protected) with the modernity of One Liberty towering over it. This is the "best of both worlds" (RIP EVH) - these beautiful buildings are preserved, and a very tall, slender tower will rise above.

And I'm happy Pearl is not going blue-glass, also this tower has a more definite crown that the Harper is lacking. The bronze trim should give the tower a classy touch. I think this one resembles the slender RAMSA towers in NYC and Chicago of recent years (obv. porcelain tile here vs. limestone in NY/Chicago, but I'll take it).

I wonder if SLC/The Laurel people's heart skipped a beat seeing this, as it does partially block some views The Laurel will have looking towards Center City. Hell, this thing is only 32 feet shorter.
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so what do you think Inga will hate about it?
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Yeah, to echo above, I'm not sure McBane has ever been to Philly. That corner in particular is one of the most photographed spots because you get great Victorian/Philly architecture (old, historically protected) with the modernity of One Liberty towering over it. This is the "best of both worlds" (RIP EVH) - these beautiful buildings are preserved, and a very tall, slender tower will rise above. .
And catty-corner is Sophy Curson something of a mid-century, old money Rittenhouse Square landmark which is also highly photographed.

I’m assuming apartments since it’s Pearl? Would love to see them offer a few condos for sale.
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