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Old Posted May 21, 2021, 3:00 PM
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Old Posted May 21, 2021, 10:31 PM
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I think the difference with Canada is not about being more high-rise friendly. For whatever reason, apartment living and transit seem to be more part of Canadian culture. Even before the condo apartment boom, thousands of rental apartment buildings were built throughout the suburbs of Toronto during the 60s and 70s. In Montreal and Quebec, there are less suburban high-rises, but you still have post-war neighbourhoods from that time are full of low-rise and mid-rise apartment buildings and multi-storey, mixed-use strip malls, like Montreal-Nord. So even without high-rises, the decline in density after the pre-war era and outside of the inner cities is not as drastic in Canada. The urban areas of Canada are not as polarized in terms of city vs. suburb, high density vs. low density, apartments vs. detached houses, transit vs. cars compared to those of the USA. There isn't such a distinct boundary and dividing line between city and suburb, if any at all, and maybe because the politics aren't focused so much on division. More suburban transit and higher suburban densities just gets in the way of division, and I think the focus on dividing people instead of connecting people is the root of these differences.
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What all the highrises in this picture have in common is none of them are in Miami. Bunch of suburban skylines: North Miami, North Miami Beach, North bay Village, Bal Harbour, Surfide, Sunny Isles Beach (the tall one on the water), Aventura, Hallandale Beach, Fort Lauderdale (inland middle/top of the image) and Fort Lauderdale Beach, Pompano Beach far to the top. And a tiny bit of Miami Beach on the bottom right
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I think the difference with Canada is not about being more high-rise friendly. For whatever reason, apartment living and transit seem to be more part of Canadian culture. Even before the condo apartment boom, thousands of rental apartment buildings were built throughout the suburbs of Toronto during the 60s and 70s. In Montreal and Quebec, there are less suburban high-rises, but you still have post-war neighbourhoods from that time are full of low-rise and mid-rise apartment buildings and multi-storey, mixed-use strip malls, like Montreal-Nord. So even without high-rises, the decline in density after the pre-war era and outside of the inner cities is not as drastic in Canada. The urban areas of Canada are not as polarized in terms of city vs. suburb, high density vs. low density, apartments vs. detached houses, transit vs. cars compared to those of the USA. There isn't such a distinct boundary and dividing line between city and suburb, if any at all, and maybe because the politics aren't focused so much on division. More suburban transit and higher suburban densities just gets in the way of division, and I think the focus on dividing people instead of connecting people is the root of these differences.
Canada also didn't massacre its cities with expressways to nearly the same extent, hence much less sprawl.
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Old Posted May 22, 2021, 4:44 PM
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And they limited sprawl directly.

The only absolute here is that many factors are in play.
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Old Posted May 22, 2021, 7:21 PM
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Sorry, I posted wrong link to Montreal-Nord, it is actually a bit further to the east. Hopefully this is a better example:
https://goo.gl/maps/hhGZi6VfNi6xy1S16

You can also see examples in other parts of the Montreal area, such as the West Island:
https://goo.gl/maps/DGCWCoBCLHFKEnbRA

Of course, USA has more freeways, especially through city centres, and maybe there is less effort to limit sprawl, but I think the root the problem could be much deeper. Again, look at Montreal: ridiculous amount of freeways, slow growth, and fewer constraints like Toronto now with the Greenbelt and Vancouver with the ocean and mountains and the US border. But Montreal is as oriented toward transit and apartments as Toronto and Vancouver are. The Montreal area has fewer high-rises, it's not going to feature heavily in this thread, but it still might help explain the high-rises being built in other parts of Canada.
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Toronto - Humber Bay in foreground and Mississauga Square One and Etobicoke City Centre in background

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What all the highrises in this picture have in common is none of them are in Miami. Bunch of suburban skylines: North Miami, North Miami Beach, North bay Village, Bal Harbour, Surfide, Sunny Isles Beach (the tall one on the water), Aventura, Hallandale Beach, Fort Lauderdale (inland middle/top of the image) and Fort Lauderdale Beach, Pompano Beach far to the top. And a tiny bit of Miami Beach on the bottom right
https://www.flickr.com/photos/65021857@N05/51189970044
looks like a great place to chill during a major hurricane.
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Old Posted Jun 10, 2021, 6:51 PM
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High-rises are not only a better place to be during flooding resulting from a hurricane, but also the flooding that will result as the sea levels rise as a result of global warming. So at least Miami is building for the future.
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High-rises are not only a better place to be during flooding resulting from a hurricane, but also the flooding that will result as the sea levels rise as a result of global warming. So at least Miami is building for the future.
If sea levels rose to the point where some of those buildings were permanently submerged on their ground levels, they won't survive particularly long with salt water eating away at their foundations.
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Toronto - Etobicoke City Centre


Also Yonge and Eglinton on the far left, Downtown Toronto in the centre background and Humber Bay on the far right


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Surrey, Vancouver's largest suburb with the many skylines of Burnaby Coquitlam and New West in the background.

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I'm impressed with the existence of suburban tower nodes all over. But often (usually) they seem to be in terrible suburban locations aside from the stations and towers themselves. Maybe they need another generation to get rid of the sprawly stuff they were built next to?

Some nodes are in more urban places of course, like New West.
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I'm impressed with the existence of suburban tower nodes all over. But often (usually) they seem to be in terrible suburban locations aside from the stations and towers themselves. Maybe they need another generation to get rid of the sprawly stuff they were built next to?

Some nodes are in more urban places of course, like New West.
Yeah. It's going to take a bit of time for the urban realm to catch up, especially in Surrey. In the area pictured, the build out will take 20+ years.
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