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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 5:49 PM
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Must I again link the CDC data again?

Omicron is not a serious health threat to anyone of any group.

And in an architecture frim Im willing to bet your all vaxxed .

You are acting out health safety theater and not actually helping anyone or protecting your "vulnerable" co workers.
Thanks doctor! Bless your heart!
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 6:03 PM
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England ending all masking and vaccine-pass restrictions as of next Thursday.
Keeping testing requirements for travel and the 5-day isolation period though, so the irritating and economically costly rules remain.

No one wears a mask anyway if they don’t want to (I haven’t in months and I ride the tube every day) and vaccine passes are a non-issue if you’re, you know, vaccinated.

But Covid will end up killing far fewer people in England this winter than the flu typically does. There is no reason whatsoever to even acknowledge that it exists anymore.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 6:11 PM
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^ The fix is easy.

Move to Texas and Florida
Its a much broader and long term problem than that. Its basically a system put in place under FDR/WW2 that made sense for 1940's America/Western Europe.

But its clearly totally outmoded in the modern world.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 6:12 PM
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Thanks doctor! Bless your heart!
You dont need to be a doctor to read basic stats.

Its amazing that you think your irrational fears are a virtue.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 6:16 PM
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You dont need to be a doctor to read basic stats.

Its amazing that you think your irrational fears are a virtue.
Being respectable to my co-workers is not living in fear. That is what they want and that is what I did. However I am in fear of your constant ranting on this forum that I've been visiting for 20 plus years now.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 6:28 PM
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Being respectable to my co-workers is not living in fear. That is what they want and that is what I did. However I am in fear of your constant ranting on this forum that I've been visiting for 20 plus years now.

You people cant be helped lmao

I have been coming to this forum since 2007 chief.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 7:22 PM
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Yeah I had two negative antigens before a positive PCR.
This scenario is expected. The perceived accuracy of the tests depends on interpretation. This is tricky and has been obscured somewhat by science-y coverage. If you define "false positive" as "negative when I turned out to have covid" the antigen tests look terrible, but if they are taken to be indicators of a narrower window of infectiousness they might be better (at least, this is what the proponents say). I don't have a strong opinion on any of this and I think the information from all tests can be used correctly or incorrectly. I believe that had there been boring open conversation about these tests we would have settled on a slightly better outcome a year ago or longer and improved by the pandemic by 5% or whatever.

The wider phenomenon I notice is the debate about them around here has been, well, a bit unhinged. The other day there was a bunch of noise about the province (BC) hoarding tests and a debate over whether 1.5 million antigen tests locked up in a warehouse was "millions" or not. A lot of people who likely would have argued in mid-2021 that antigen tests are bad because they're less accurate are now freaking out about the desperate need to get them into the hands of the public. I doubt the tests have changed much and the potential upside has dropped a lot since the pre-vaccine days.

We still have people here screaming about how the government has thrown them to the wolves by only somewhat delaying school openings (maybe to add air filters in early 2022?) because their triple vaxxed 9 year olds might get omicron.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 7:25 PM
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The wider phenomenon I notice is the debate about them around here has been, well, a bit unhinged. The other day there was a bunch of noise about the province (BC) hoarding tests and a debate over whether 1.5 million antigen tests locked up in a warehouse was "millions" or not. A lot of people who likely would have argued in mid-2021 that antigen tests are bad because they're less accurate are now freaking out about how they're desperately needed.
Modern world doesn't need guillotines, you just ban somebody from social media, achieves the same thing with much less mess and much less backlash
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 7:34 PM
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Modern world doesn't need guillotines, you just ban somebody from social media, achieves the same thing with much less mess and much less backlash
I dunno. I ban myself from social media for long periods and it's pretty great.

My simple rule is that Twitter should only be used for the raunchiest gay porn. If people universally followed this, they would be a lot happier. The porn-consumers would get what they want and the others would leave and be less worked up.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 7:35 PM
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I dunno. I ban myself from social media for long periods and it's pretty great.

My simple rule is that Twitter should only be used for the raunchiest gay porn. If people universally followed this, they would be a lot happier.
Im with ya, I never had social media to any extent, Im just saying if you want to silence inconvenient voices on the public square, no need to chop off their heads. You can just silence them virtually.
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You people cant be helped lmao
^ It's very hard to crack the minds of the fearful and paranoid. Once they get caught into that trap, they use every rationalization that they can to reinforce these behaviors
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 8:13 PM
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Says the one that's making the noise about it.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 8:16 PM
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Says the one that's making the noise about it.
They pretend like they are immune, but so many of them share the fear of wearing a mask or social distancing. How can they be soooo scared of taking a COVID test when they don't even think COVID is that bad? Plus they haven't been getting what they wanted for 2 years, so maybe they are super frustrated.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 8:22 PM
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England ending all masking and vaccine-pass restrictions as of next Thursday.
Late to the party on this one I was just going to post this.

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Finally at least one country has be able to adapt to the new reality and realize their mistakes continuing the same failed tactics over and over.





https://www.theepochtimes.com/englan...Sww%2B%2FBZmCY


England Ends All COVID Passports, Mask Mandates, Work Restrictions

The Epoch Times ^ | Updated: January 19, 2022 | By Lily Zhou


Restrictions including COVID-19 passes, mask mandates, and work-from-home guidance will be removed in England, UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced on Wednesday.

Johnson also suggested that self-isolation rules may also be thrown out at the end of March...

Effective immediately, the UK government is no longer asking people to work from home.

The COVID pass mandate for nightclubs and large events won’t be renewed when it expires on Jan. 26.

And from Thursday, indoor mask-wearing will no longer be compulsory anywhere in England.

The requirement for secondary school pupils to wear masks during class and in communal areas will also be removed from the Department for Education’s national guidance.

Roaring cheers from lawmakers could be heard in the House of Commons following Johnson’s announcements on masks.



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“As COVID becomes endemic, we will need to replace legal requirements with advice and guidance, urging people with the virus to be careful and considerate of others,” the prime minister said.

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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 8:28 PM
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They pretend like they are immune, but so many of them share the fear of wearing a mask or social distancing. .
Nobody is afraid of doing those things, they don't want to do them because there is no Point in doing them.

Deluded.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 8:33 PM
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Nobody is afraid of doing those things, they don't want to do them because there is no Point in doing them.

Deluded.
Yes they are, especially since they have complaining about it for 2 years. If there is no point, especially, then you're gonna be upset even harder. Good thing there is a point, but as long as you deny it this is gonna hurt.

Scared.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 8:42 PM
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YES!!! YES!!!

YES!!!

YES!!!


No skyscraper start has made me more happy than to hear that a major western democracy is finally waking up from this insanity. (I just hope that I'm not celebrating too prematurely)

Lets hope it spreads, because America's current leadership has its head in its own ass and is actually doing the opposite. Doubling down by shipping out masks in masse to a public that never asked for them and is getting tired of wearing them.
Not all of America's government is on that train. Supreme Court stayed the OSHA mask/testing provision, so there's that.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 8:44 PM
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Not all of America's government is on that train. Supreme Court stayed the OSHA mask/testing provision, so there's that.
Hospitals are still overloaded as well, although it would be interesting to see health care facilities in unvaccinated states crack and ask for help.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 9:04 PM
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Nobody is afraid of doing those things, they don't want to do them because there is no Point in doing them.

Deluded.
He’s a troll.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 9:10 PM
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Hospitals are still overloaded as well, although it would be interesting to see health care facilities in unvaccinated states crack and ask for help.
Not a single hospital in the USA was ever "overloaded" not one single time did a hospital run out of beds in North America.
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