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The Affirmation Tower developers are still hopeful the project can move forward, in one location or another.
Well at least they left a cliffhanger ... "in one location or another"

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Well at least they left a cliffhanger ... "in one location or another"


And that’s the trick. Finding a site with the zoning to allow something like this to get built without having to go though the ridiculous approvals process. It’s not the size (it’s a relatively small tower) or the height (no height limits in Midtown or Downtown). It’s the other 500 zoning regulations that resort in pretty much every new tower being variations on a box with setbacks as it rises. The Affirmation Tower design really does turn things upside down. And while people - even on this forum - may complain about the typical, boxy towers that usually get built, they are SHOCKED to see something like this, which is in reality another boxy tower. That’s why, even though they are determined to see it built, this site is key.
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Sorry. I see that this was already posted.


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Peebles thinks this will come up again in the fall…



https://www.dailybeatny.com/2022/08/...n-peebles/amp/

By Joseph Richter
August 9, 2022


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Daily Beat: Can you please share an update on Affirmation Tower and Site K?

Don Peebles: The Empire State Development Corporation owns the site and they issued a request for proposals.

…..We are close to working out an agreement to house a civil rights museum. It would be a transformative project. The state and Governor Hochul are the decision makers and I anticipate that getting addressed this fall.

Daily Beat: Does this need to go through ULURP?

Don Peebles: No. Because it’s a state project, the governor could have a general plan and we’re planning for something that’s allowed within the current zoning. This should allow it to move forward expeditiously.
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I suspect that the governor played this charade in order to avoid riling the “affordable housing” gang. She appears to have a large lead over Zeldin and will probably drop the AH requirement after the election.
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I suspect that the governor played this charade in order to avoid riling the “affordable housing” gang. She appears to have a large lead over Zeldin and will probably drop the AH requirement after the election.
Well, she hasn’t really issued it yet either, but I do suspect they don’t want to touch it until after the election. There hasn’t been a word about it since the rfp was withdrawn.
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Well, she hasn’t really issued it yet either, but I do suspect they don’t want to touch it until after the election. There hasn’t been a word about it since the rfp was withdrawn.
Yes, and everyone who knows real estate all say that this site is not appropriate for AH.
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Five Questions with Don Peebles

BY MICHAEL AUSHENKER
AUGUST 29, 2022


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Do you consider Angels Landing one of your most ambitious undertakings?

Yes, it will be our most ambitious undertaking to date… (Next is) Affirmation Tower in New York. That will be a $3.6 billion project and the tallest building in the Western hemisphere. That’s in the works. Angels Landing is much further along.
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Figured the RFP would come out after the election...


https://nypost.com/2022/10/12/kathy-...a-development/

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Donahue “Don” Peebles, one of the largest minority builders in New York, plans to resubmit a plan to develop the vacant site on 11th Avenue known as “Site K” when the Hochul-controlled Empire State Development solicits new bids some time after the election.

.....Other developers — including Related Companies — also have expressed interest in developing the site, a source close to the bidding process said.
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Peebles’ original proposal called for a 1,663-foot Affirmation Tower with two hotels, commercial space, an ice-skating rink and an observation deck.

Peebles told The Post he would also offer space to the NAACP and Al Sharpton’s civil rights museum.

“Absolutely we’re going to rebid on it again,” said Peebles.

Peebles argued that it’s too expensive to build housing at the property but said the revenues from the sale could be used to build affordable apartments elsewhere.
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Now that the election is over, I hope that the governor revives this project on the original bid terms.
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Now that the election is over, I hope that the governor revives this project on the original bid terms.
It’ll be revived with more specific terms.
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But I assume that she won't require affordable housing on that site per se since all developers say that it's not feasible.
Politicians, as we all know, are notorious for carefully considering the demands of developers.
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Looks like Hochul will go all in on housing, which isn’t bad. The question is will housing go where housing belongs, or will it be at the expense of other things. But let’s hope she can at least get the state FAR limit of 12 lifted.



https://therealdeal.com/2022/12/01/g...itz-next-year/

Gov. Yimby? Hochul promises housing blitz next year
Calls New York a national leader in “blocking housing”



Dec. 01, 2022
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Gov. Kathy Hochul says she is ready for a fight.

Hochul promised to unveil a “bold and audacious” housing agenda next month. She did not provide details, saying she will unveil them at her State of the State speech.

But Hochul made clear that she views the next legislative session as crucial to addressing the state’s housing crisis. Her speech, at the New York Housing Conference’s annual awards ceremony, also served as a call to action for the attendees — which included various lawmakers and industry professionals — to educate communities about the need for more housing.

“There’s no kicking this can down the road,” she said. “I’m picking that can up right now.”
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Hochul indicated Thursday that her administration would target communities and zoning policies that block housing and perpetuate segregation. Rattling off statistics, she claimed that New Jersey and Connecticut are outpacing Long Island, Westchester and other New York suburbs in housing production.

New York City has failed to allow enough housing, she said, and “the suburbs are even worse.”

“We’re a national leader in blocking housing,” she said. “New York is in a league of its own in terms of restricting new housing.”
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Hochul’s executive budget this past year also pitched removing the cap on the city’s residential floor-area ratio, or FAR. This and other proposals, including changes to ease the conversions of defunct office space into housing, will likely be on the governor’s policy agenda next year.

As we know, the governor pulled the rfp process for this site because no one included any affordable housing. The max FAR on the site is 24, with only half (12) being available for housing. That made the irregular site even more difficult to build as a mixed-use, commercial, housing, and affordable housing site. Let’s hope if the plan is to include affordable housing, it would be for the larger, more practical site south of the Javits.
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Hopefully she can make some in roads. Less talk more action!
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Wasn’t she proposing eliminating FAR for new residential development so that developers could build as tall as they want?
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Wasn’t she proposing eliminating FAR for new residential development so that developers could build as tall as they want?
Removing the FAR cap has more to do with allowing more housing units than it does with increasing height. Otherwise, it would just be removing height limits. Obviously, the more units, the more likely there is more height. But height doesn’t neccessarily equate more housing units. Just look at the Steinway Tower.
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Removing the FAR cap has more to do with allowing more housing units than it does with increasing height. Otherwise, it would just be removing height limits. Obviously, the more units, the more likely there is more height. But height doesn’t neccessarily equate more housing units. Just look at the Steinway Tower.
Right. However, considering that the typical Manhattan site is pretty small, removing FAR caps should yield taller towers.
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Probably not thethread for it but I'd love to see the city set a goal of a 10 million person population for the city proper by 2050. There is no reason this giant city couldn't absorb that many between the five boroughs especially considering that the real population is probably a quarter million more than the official count due to undocumented residents. There are so many fabulous neighborhoods in the city that are vibrant and dense, but there are also many that could be upzoned along thoroughfares to bring in high density TOD and an influx of energy and commerce. I'd also love to see the Bronx in particular boost its population. The Bronx is an amazing borough and has the infrastructure (and hopefully expansions in the future) to continue high density multi-family housing. Bringing in more housing will boost the socioeconomics and benefit everyone. Personally I'd love seeing a scattering of 20-30 floor towers all over The Bronx and paired with the new developments and the historic 6-7 flor apartment house stock woukd be so cool.
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I agree about The Bronx. It should get enormous infusions of development to help it reach its potential. First and foremost the whole area around Yankee Stadium and the vast areas near MNR stops should be redeveloped.
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Yeah, even with its amazing historic density in the west and central, as well as the recovering south, the Bronx really imo remains untapped in its potential and I agree much can be improved with better integration with transit... The cluster of high rises built recently in Mott Haven could be replicated in many other areas... Shlocky low rise thoroughfares like Boston Road east of White Plains should be upzoned to encourage the apartment house vernacular of the west and south while side streets could remain the lower density homeowner SFH and 2/4 families. I could talk about the Bx all day.... Other boroughs...Brooklyn will continue to rejuvenate and densify... 3 million by 2050 is realistic... Queens the same.... Manhattan shouldn't be less than 2 million...the fact it is just feels wrong... UES, LES, Upper. Manhattan along with continued highrise development throughout the island are key to this... East Harlem and Mott Haven,Bx should be a major target for very ambitious housing implimentation...this of course really requires the MTA to be aggressive about getting the SAS into the Bronx as well. So much future NY growth potential is being held back by a timid, overburdened and underfunded MTA. This city should realistically have a few subway expansion projects going on at the same time... That's the kind if aggressiveness that is needed and seems to be shared by other international alpha cities.
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