CHICAGO | General Developments

[west-town-brad]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

Yeah, that too

the methadone clinic is my favorite chicago ave establishment

[ardecila]

The community garden has zoning in place for a 22-story highrise...

[west-town-brad]

according to YIMBY the project at Armitage & Western should be starting now:
https://chicagoyimby.com/2021/07/con...an-square.html

also part of the Lazo Taco land holdings along McClean & Western looks to have been sold or Lazo is developing themselves - permits are for 2 single family homes. excavator was dropped off last night at the site.

[marothisu]

4901-17 N Paulina St - Paulina & Ainslie - in Uptown .

32 units
27 parking spaces
43 feet in height
A vacant SFH and 3 2-unit buildings will be torn down
Existing 15 unit building on the corner to remain (4901 N Paulina)
10-15 minute walk to the Argyle Red Line stop.

Hayes Properties is the developer and Foster Dale is the architect.
Zoning application: https://chicago.legistar.com/Legisla...vanced&Search=

Street view:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/49...9!4d-87.670634

[marothisu]

Uptown looks to set itself even further as an entertainment hub in the city this time right near the Argyle Red Line stop, not Lawrence (not too far though). Timeline Theatre is getting serious about building a brand new theatre in Uptown near Argyle, on Broadway, and abandoning their small theatre in a Church in Lake View.

The current building is a warehouse and they look to completely renovate it and also build a 15 foot addition into the neighboring vacant lot. Originally they wanted to keep the old facade but now want to have something more updated looking.

The initial phase will have a 250 seat theater, gallery space, a bar, etc. There might be a 2nd phase in awhile that established a 2nd theater at 150 seats

Zoning application: https://chicago.legistar.com/Legisla...vanced&Search=

Street view: https://www.google.com/maps/place/50...!4d-87.6591451

Renderings are updated via Block Club Chicago (https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/06...o-arts-center/)

[marothisu]

1) More generic looking apartments/condos coming to the north side. This time at 2042-46 W Irving Park Rd for a total of 22 new residential units and 13 total parking spaces. Drawings not really worth showing here - it just looks like so much else that has gone up which is boring and uninspired.

Total height is 46 feet and it's just down the street from the Irving Park Brown Line stop.

It should replace these lower rise homes/small multi unit buildings:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9541...7i16384!8i8192

Zoning application: https://chicago.legistar.com/Legisla...vanced&Search=

2) A developer is trying to build 7 new buildings of 3 units each on vacant land in Bronzeville at 3920-32 S Calumet, for a total of 21 units. Each building at 32 feet tall and 1 parking spot per unit. This is pretty close to the Indiana Green Line stop:

Zoning application: https://chicago.legistar.com/Legisla...vanced&Search=

Street view: https://www.google.com/maps/place/39...6!4d-87.618877

[HomrQT]

Great updates marothisu

[dewbs]

Originally Posted by marothisu

The current building is a warehouse and they look to completely renovate it and also build a 15 foot addition into the neighboring vacant lot. Originally they wanted to keep the old facade but now want to have something more updated looking.

That's pretty disappointing. If they didn't want to keep it, there's certainly other space around there that they could have bought. There's a lot of ugly and short stuff around there that we don't need.

[marothisu]

A building permit was issued yesterday to construct a new 5 story building with 64 units and retail at the SE corner of Broadway & Winona. According to a YIMBY Chicago post from December, this is actually another phase of the bigger re-use project right down the street by Cedar St when they renovated the office building there into apartments and retail.

This replaces a surface parking lot and the building is supposed to rise 65 feet. I believe there should be another building coming here part of the same development with another 116 units.

Street view: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9752...7i16384!8i8192

Via https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/12...lding-project/

[the urban politician]

^ 200 more of these up and down Broadway, please

[JK47]

Originally Posted by k1052

I understand why Target would bail. Who needs that trouble in a market awash in available space? Hope the well to do neighbors enjoy their increasingly empty mall.

Christ get off that high horse. It's a prime location so it'll fill in eventually and that corridor is or should be reserved for destination retail not chain crap like Target. Besides that any reasonable person would realize that the old Macy's space just doesn't work for the Target model...logistics of moving patrons with shopping carts as well as z-racks and flatbeds for restock (at a much higher pace than Macy's) in a Target spread over 5 or 6 levels (since Target stores are roughly 135000 sq ft) make this a non starter besides the fact that supplying a Target that size with that much traffic (needing two semi's daily of inventory at peak) with a loading dock that doesn't fit the trucks Target uses is nigh impossible.

[Kngkyle]

Originally Posted by JK47

Christ get off that high horse. It's a prime location so it'll fill in eventually and that corridor is or should be reserved for destination retail not chain crap like Target. Besides that any reasonable person would realize that the old Macy's space just doesn't work for the Target model...logistics of moving patrons with shopping carts as well as z-racks and flatbeds for restock (at a much higher pace than Macy's) in a Target spread over 5 or 6 levels (since Target stores are roughly 135000 sq ft) make this a non starter besides the fact that supplying a Target that size with that much traffic (needing two semi's daily of inventory at peak) with a loading dock that doesn't fit the trucks Target uses is nigh impossible.

You seem to be the one on a high horse.

Target has small format stores all over Chicago. If they were going to take space it would almost certainly just be on the 1st and 2nd floor. This was entirely doable and would have been a great addition for local residents, and nobody under the age of 40 views Target as a cheap crappy chain.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by JK47

Christ get off that high horse. It's a prime location so it'll fill in eventually and that corridor is or should be reserved for destination retail not chain crap like Target. Besides that any reasonable person would realize that the old Macy's space just doesn't work for the Target model...logistics of moving patrons with shopping carts as well as z-racks and flatbeds for restock (at a much higher pace than Macy's) in a Target spread over 5 or 6 levels (since Target stores are roughly 135000 sq ft) make this a non starter besides the fact that supplying a Target that size with that much traffic (needing two semi's daily of inventory at peak) with a loading dock that doesn't fit the trucks Target uses is nigh impossible.

I completely agree on multiple levels. Mag Mile has been a thing for years and a legitimate shopping district. One of the reasons people come to it is so they can shop/eat in one district and many times go to stores they might not have normal access to as a tourist especially. Putting a normal Target in this place just reduces not only the Mag Mile's standing but also a little bit Chicago.

Look, I like Target as much as the next guy but putting them in the former huge home of Macy's is ridiculous. If you we are talking about their city store format, there's already a new one going in a half mile west on LaSalle and that's sufficient enough. People talk about buildings getting torn down and losing that, but nobody cares about the waning character of one of America's greatest and largest shopping districts? That would actually be a soft blow to this and people seem to not even give a shit.

Brick and mortar retail is changing but if people are serious about Chicago keeping some sort of legitimate district like this in the city of some kind then I can think of better uses for the space than a Target thats that's same as even a small city has.

It just doesn't belong there in that space. If they were smart, IMO, they would break up the space into smaller leasable spaces for a variety of different uses.

[Randomguy34]

I've still been curious why there are so many lowrises & midrises on Mag Mile, and why there hasn't been much development on those sites. The only one I can think of this past decade is the Tribune Redevelopment, which isn't even a lowrise site. If the city is really worried that people are leaving Mag Mile, it would make sense to reinvigorate the area by encouraging investors to flood Mag Mile, similar to the work they're done for advertising Fulton Market.

[r18tdi]

Originally Posted by marothisu

1) More generic looking apartments/condos coming to the north side. This time at 2042-46 W Irving Park Rd for a total of 22 new residential units and 13 total parking spaces. Drawings not really worth showing here - it just looks like so much else that has gone up which is boring and uninspired.

Total height is 46 feet and it's just down the street from the Irving Park Brown Line stop.

It should replace these lower rise homes/small multi unit buildings:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9541...7i16384!8i8192

Zoning application: https://chicago.legistar.com/Legisla...vanced&Search=

I believe this is the same project:
https://urbanize.city/chicago/post/n...46-irving-park

[jpIllInoIs]

source

The event celebrated the commencement of construction activities for the new $117.8 million, 135,000-square-foot Computer Design Research and Learning Center at UIC, which will be located at 900 W. Taylor St., adjacent to UIC’s Memorial Grove.

The building, which is part of the university’s campus master plan and supported by the Rebuild Illinois capital plan, will provide needed space to accommodate UIC’s rapidly increasing undergraduate enrollment in computer science with collaborative teaching and learning spaces and 16,000 square feet of classroom space. It also will provide space for UIC faculty research in computer science and engineering fields with 35 labs, including a 1,200-square-foot robotics lab.

Link has plenty of renderings

[SamInTheLoop]

Originally Posted by jpIllInoIs

source



Link has plenty of renderings

Nice. I like this. A lot. LMN Architects, out of Seattle. With Booth Hanson as Associate Architect.

[SamInTheLoop]

Originally Posted by Kngkyle

You seem to be the one on a high horse.

Target has small format stores all over Chicago. If they were going to take space it would almost certainly just be on the 1st and 2nd floor. This was entirely doable and would have been a great addition for local residents, and nobody under the age of 40 views Target as a cheap crappy chain.

This is the correct take. The version of a Target that would make sense here wouldn't have taken up the entire Macy's space. I'd assume something like 50-75k sq ft at most., so it would have been a large reconfiguration of the overall space. I don't know why any talks were discontinued, and have no horse in the race, but it was a decent idea that could have worked and might have fairly quickly reactivated a big chunk of space. The idea that Target would have somehow harmed the 'vibe' of the Mile or diminished its reputation, etc etc is just nonsense - it's ye olde high street shopping, nostalgic, mindnumbing nonsense.

[SamInTheLoop]

Originally Posted by marothisu

A building permit was issued yesterday to construct a new 5 story building with 64 units and retail at the SE corner of Broadway & Winona. According to a YIMBY Chicago post from December, this is actually another phase of the bigger re-use project right down the street by Cedar St when they renovated the office building there into apartments and retail.

This replaces a surface parking lot and the building is supposed to rise 65 feet. I believe there should be another building coming here part of the same development with another 116 units.

Need to see better renderings of course but this one has a lot of potential.

[Tombstoner]

Originally Posted by SamInTheLoop

This is the correct take. The version of a Target that would make sense here wouldn't have taken up the entire Macy's space. I'd assume something like 50-75k sq ft at most., so it would have been a large reconfiguration of the overall space. I don't know why any talks were discontinued, and have no horse in the race, but it was a decent idea that could have worked and might have fairly quickly reactivated a big chunk of space. The idea that Target would have somehow harmed the 'vibe' of the Mile or diminished its reputation, etc etc is just nonsense - it's ye olde high street shopping, nostalgic, mindnumbing nonsense.

I can see where many think of the Mag Mile as a destination, high-end shopping district and that Target's presence might cement perceptions of its decline. That's not to say that it would stick out like a sore thumb--there's quite a bit of dross there already--but there is something to say about the allure of luxury. In Paris, the Champs-Elysees is in the same boat. It still has a few of its Gucci and Prada flagships, but increasingly there's so much mid- and even low-end retail (e.g., Monoprix, C&A, Celio) there now that it is really no longer a "site" that any tourist needs to experience. I'm not sure the world needs luxury streets lined with pretentious brands, but they serve a purpose in promoting a city as desirable. Another analogy... Downtown Crossing in Boston had aspirations of being a high-end district with the completion of Millennium Tower, but then Primark, DSW, TJMax etc. took over and now it's pretty much a place for inner-city and lower-middle income suburban folks to hang out. Again, maybe that's fine, but it's nothing that tourist office is going to promote. I do think Chicago is losing something if it "loses" the image of Mag Mile as high-end.