Big population drops in Los Angeles, San Francisco transforming urban California

[homebucket]

^ You can see here that if the Bay was filled and the Santa Cruz mountains were replaced with ocean, it would look similar to the LA basin, with lots of alternate routes.

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[SAN Man]

Originally Posted by sopas ej

This also contributes to the Bay Area's traffic, as there are fewer alternate routes because of the Bay.

The LA basin has more alternate freeways and surface streets. Lakewood-Rosemead Blvd. can be a great alternate if there's an accident on the 605 or 710; Venice Blvd. can be a great alternate to the 10; Sepulveda or La Cienega to Slauson or La Tijera can be a good alternate to LAX... etc.

NorCal has challenging bottlenecks. The bottleneck between LA/OC and SD is really bad too. 1 freeway and a railway, connecting a 13 million person metro with a 3.5 million metro (6 million if you combine SD with Tij) and that's about it. If you're in the Inland Empire (pop 4.5 million) then you have the 15 as an alternative to SD.

[Streamliner]

Originally Posted by homebucket

^ You can see here that if the Bay was filled and the Santa Cruz mountains were replaced with ocean, it would look similar to the LA basin, with lots of alternate routes.

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Whoa that's a really cool visual.

[Steely Dan]

Make San Francisco affordable again!

DRAIN THE BAY!!!

[TWAK]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

Make San Francisco affordable again!

DRAIN THE BAY!!!

Why does NYC get a pass but not SF?
Filling in the bay would be ugly.

[sopas ej]

Millions of years ago, the LA Basin was under water. The Palos Verdes Peninsula was an island.

[LosAngelesSportsFan]

Originally Posted by RST500

"Fastest growing places (min. 25k) in California, 2000-2020:
1. Beaumont (366%)
2. Lincoln (344%)
3. Vineyard CDP (335%)
4. Elk Grove (194%)
5. El Dorado Hills CDP (181%)

Reverse:
1. Huntington Park (-11%)
2. Maywood (-10%)
3. Bell Gardens (-10%)
4. Bell (-8%)
5. Santa Ana (-8%)"



@SidKhurana3607

The cities losing the most are very hispanic cities. Im assuming this is because of downsizing of families and perhaps out migration due to cost of living

[JManc]

Originally Posted by sopas ej

Millions of years ago, the LA Basin was under water. The Palos Verdes Peninsula was an island.

Millions of years from now, LA and SF will be right next to each other:

[Buckeye Native 001]

Can't happen soon enough if it means not having to drive past Bakersfield on the 5.

[homebucket]

Originally Posted by JManc

Millions of years from now, LA and SF will be right next to each other:

Instead of Bay to Breakers it’ll be Bay to Basin.

[TWAK]

Originally Posted by Buckeye Native 001

Can't happen soon enough if it means not having to drive past Bakersfield on the 5.

280 will be elongated or cracked really badly

[Buckeye Native 001]

My money's on badly cracked

[Crawford]

At least this means CA can save $100 billion and not have to build CAHSR? Just extend BART to downtown LA.

[SAN Man]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

Make San Francisco affordable again!

DRAIN THE BAY!!!

East Bay cities would be extremely hot! San Jose, even hotter than it is today without a slight moderation of the bay on it's north side. Summer temps likely hitting the 100s in this newly created bowl of urbanity.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by TWAK

Why does NYC get a pass but not SF?
Filling in the bay would be ugly.

My comment was 1 billion percent facetious.

What would be the point of living in the bay area without the bay?

Maybe they could rename it the "basin area". Then it would make sense again.

[Klippenstein]

Since we’re throwing around hypotheticals. They could build a giant dike like the Dutch and just drain it a little.

[SAN Man]

Originally Posted by Klippenstein

Since we’re throwing around hypotheticals. They could build a giant dike like the Dutch and just drain it a little.

Or build a giant dam, extract the salt and create the largest fresh water reservoir in the US, 1,600 square miles in size.

[Yuri]

Originally Posted by LosAngelesSportsFan

The cities losing the most are very hispanic cities. Im assuming this is because of downsizing of families and perhaps out migration due to cost of living

I mentioned this on page 4. Clearly, the changing in California growth pattern is mostly due the collapse of Mexican immigration. That's why we see the expensive San Francisco actually accelerating while the heavily Hispanic Los Angeles and Central Valley saw their growth to collapse.

[Chisouthside]

Plenty of CA Mexican families moving to AZ and Texas too.

[mrnyc]

Originally Posted by TWAK

Why does NYC get a pass but not SF?
Filling in the bay would be ugly.

because we rejoice any population loss.