NEW YORK | 15 Penn Plaza (Hotel Penn) | 1,200 FT / 388 M | 61 FLOORS - Page 103

Busy Bee · #**2041** Posted **Jun 27, 2023, 9:42 PM**

Except it sits on a superblock smothering the train station underneath it. I fail to see how those two are the same thing.

BK1985 · #**2042** Posted **Jun 28, 2023, 2:27 AM**

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For security reasons it could be access limited though and quasi-pedestrianized.

Which would in effect cul de sac the street for through-traffic as well as emergency services.

Busy Bee · #**2043** Posted **Jun 28, 2023, 3:16 AM**

One street below a bidirectional street. Somehow I think the impact to emergency response would be minimal.

NYguy · #**2044** Posted **Jun 28, 2023, 3:38 AM**

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Except it sits on a superblock smothering the train station underneath it. I fail to see how those two are the same thing.

It's not "smothering" the train station underneath. Penn Station is underground, and Madison Square Garden is elevated. It may be lost on a lot of people, but current plans will give Penn not one, but 3 new daylit train halls, possibly 4 depending on the design of the train hall expansion south. All with the Garden still in place.

NYguy · #**2045** Posted **Jul 10, 2023, 4:40 PM**

JULY 9, 2023

Busy Bee · #**2046** Posted **Jul 10, 2023, 4:49 PM**

Can't wait to see Oppenheimer

NYguy · #**2047** Posted **Jul 10, 2023, 5:35 PM**

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Can't wait to see Oppenheimer

Got Verizon yet?

Busy Bee · #**2048** Posted **Jul 10, 2023, 6:06 PM**

Don't want it. Don't need it.

NYguy · #**2049** Posted **Jul 10, 2023, 6:09 PM**

Nice adds wasted.

Charmy2 · #**2050** Posted **Jul 11, 2023, 4:56 AM**

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Can't wait to see Oppenheimer

That will be a VERY good movie...but on the topic of the building I did not expect the top of One Vanderbilt to be visible after the demolition finishes. When the hotel is gone, how long until the new tower begins to rise?

NYguy · #**2051** Posted **Jul 11, 2023, 1:21 PM**

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That will be a VERY good movie...but on the topic of the building I did not expect the top of One Vanderbilt to be visible after the demolition finishes. When the hotel is gone, how long until the new tower begins to rise?

Yeah, Vandy is a big boy. The hotel is for the most part gone. Vornado doesn’t have a start date for what it will build there.

mrnyc · #**2052** Posted **Jul 11, 2023, 1:52 PM**

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Can't wait to see Oppenheimer

you could do two for one with barbieheimer mashups --

Busy Bee · #**2053** Posted **Jul 11, 2023, 2:00 PM**

It's amazing what people will spend their time on.

NYguy · #**2054** Posted **Jul 22, 2023, 9:35 PM**

Busy Bee · #**2055** Posted **Jul 22, 2023, 9:39 PM**

Still a stack of phone books on the skyline.

Remember phone books?

jbermingham123 · #**2056** Posted **Jul 23, 2023, 12:51 AM**

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Still a stack of phone books on the skyline.

Remember phone books?

wait what are books

chris08876 · #**2057** Posted **Jul 23, 2023, 3:40 AM**

Pic by me. Taken today. Its so nice seeing the ESB.

Penn Station is such a cluster F right now with all of this construction with respect to pedestrian flow. Its all over the place.

UrbanImpact · #**2058** Posted **Jul 23, 2023, 6:00 AM**

PEN15 should look more phallic and less flappy given the address.

mrnyc · #**2059** Posted **Jul 23, 2023, 8:20 AM**

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PEN15 should look more phallic and less flappy given the address.

cue the original disney little mermaid dvd cover.

i’ll let you fine folks research that at your leisure … and let myself out.

NYguy · #**2060** Posted **Jul 23, 2023, 1:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by chris08876

Pic by me. Taken today. Its so nice seeing the ESB.

Penn Station is such a cluster F right now with all of this construction with respect to pedestrian flow. Its all over the place.

It’s only going to get worse, but it’ll be worth it in the end. The good news is that the retail on the newly expanded 33rd St concourse is starting to open.