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Mikemak27 · #**36701** Posted **Mar 28, 2017, 6:05 PM**

Five attached, two million dollar and above row homes are planned to replace ten rental units in Lincoln Park. They will be approximately 4000 square feet each.
Just another example of the de-densification of Lincoln Park.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/reale...ln-park-corner

prelude91 · #**36702** Posted **Mar 28, 2017, 6:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mikemak27

Five attached, two million dollar and above row homes are planned to replace ten rental units in Lincoln Park. They will be approximately 4000 square feet each.
Just another example of the de-densification of Lincoln Park.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/reale...ln-park-corner

Kind of sucks to loose the brick building on the corner, but the others are nothing special (and not even brick). At this point, any non brick/stone building in Lincoln Park or Lakeview is on borrowed time. I just hope we can preserve the remaining brick/grey stone buildings.

I'm pretty bullish on Lincoln Ave making a comeback with the Children's memorial site and the Webster Place building, along with the other infill. LP desperately needs to densify it's commercial streets, because most of the residential side streets will continue to bleed population as SFH become the norm.

Halsted & Villagio · #**36703** Posted **Mar 28, 2017, 7:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by marothisu

More random data on who is moving in and who is moving out of the city.

2015 compared to 2014. Persons born:

* Outside of the US (not Puerto Rico, USVI, etc): +15,644
* Midwest (outside of Illinois) US: +6869
* West US: +90
* South US: -1166
* Puerto Rico, USVI, etc: -1566
* Northeast US: -2297
* Illinois: -19,425

Looks like a bunch of people from Illinois have left, being replaced fully with foreign born persons and people from the midwest outside of Illinois.

2015 compared to 2010. Persons born:

* Outside of the US (not Puerto Rico, USVI, etc): +15,789
* West US: +7334
* Puerto Rico, USVI, etc: +3139
* Midwest (outside of Illinois) US: +2892
* South US: -7312
* Northeast US: -2226
* Illinois: -2343

Many people from the South, NE, and Illinois have left - more foreign born people have replaced them as well as many people from the west coast, Puerto Rico, and other non-Illinois parts of the midwest.

Good stuff Marothisu.... par excellence as always

r18tdi · #**36704** Posted **Mar 28, 2017, 7:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by prelude91

I'm pretty bullish on Lincoln Ave making a comeback with the Children's memorial site and the Webster Place building, along with the other infill. LP desperately needs to densify it's commercial streets, because most of the residential side streets will continue to bleed population as SFH become the norm.

Agreed. Right now it's just vacant space, nail salons, and crappy kiddie bars.

nomarandlee · #**36705** Posted **Mar 28, 2017, 8:53 PM**

Speaking of pocket/neighborhood parks a few pages back does anyone know if there is ANY consideration that the new island created by the new Fullerton/Elston/Damen intersection could become a park.

It is frustrating Chicago is so park poor to other major US cities and when we have the opportunity to create one by almost mere happenstance it seems like a missed opportunity not to.

There would still be plenty of developable land between the island and the river on the ole Vienna factory grounds. And it would surely beat the lame single story auto-centric retail I saw originally penned to take place on the island a few years ago.

LouisVanDerWright · #**36706** Posted **Mar 28, 2017, 8:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mikemak27

Five attached, two million dollar and above row homes are planned to replace ten rental units in Lincoln Park. They will be approximately 4000 square feet each.
Just another example of the de-densification of Lincoln Park.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/reale...ln-park-corner

At least these developers have a track record of delivering quality materials and historically correct design. Their previous townhome project in Lincoln Park:

http://www.sgwarch.com/new-page-2/

Yes that's quality red brick, real sandstone decorative elements, copper flashing, and a slate roof to boot. That project is going to age marvelously. Good historical designs are possible today if you aren't a tasteless greedy hack. Whatever is built here will likely be far higher quality and probably more SF than what's there now. This is a rare instance of this process of de densification leading to an overall upgrade.

prelude91 · #**36707** Posted **Mar 28, 2017, 9:03 PM**

^ Those are fantastic! Add some mature trees, and you have a great streetscape. I'd love to see these peppered throughout the city.

PKDickman · #**36708** Posted **Mar 28, 2017, 9:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by marothisu

More random data on who is moving in and who is moving out of the city.

2015 compared to 2014. Persons born:

* Outside of the US (not Puerto Rico, USVI, etc): +15,644
* Midwest (outside of Illinois) US: +6869
* West US: +90
* South US: -1166
* Puerto Rico, USVI, etc: -1566
* Northeast US: -2297
* Illinois: -19,425

Looks like a bunch of people from Illinois have left, being replaced fully with foreign born persons and people from the midwest outside of Illinois.

What data did you use, and did it account for natural increase?
Typically we see 20,000-21,000 more births than deaths in the city.
Depending on how it is factored in, we either hung on to 1000 of them of actually lost 40,000 native Illinoisans.

Mikemak27 · #**36709** Posted **Mar 28, 2017, 10:25 PM**

An 11 story, 140-155 unit market rate apartment building at the corner of Sheridan Road and Wilson Avenue has been approved in a 20-2 vote by the 46th Ward Zoming & Development Committee.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2017...d-zoning-panel

Lakeviewguy · #**36710** Posted **Mar 28, 2017, 11:14 PM**

On the topic of Lincoln Park, I noticed that McHugh Construction placed signs on the fencing around the old Marketplace Grocery store lot at Diversey and Cambridge. Previously there were Hennigan Demo signs on the fencing. I can't find anything online about permits etc., but McHugh would not likely place its signs on the fencing unless it was hired for something.

marothisu · #**36711** Posted **Mar 29, 2017, 12:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by PKDickman

What data did you use, and did it account for natural increase?
Typically we see 20,000-21,000 more births than deaths in the city.
Depending on how it is factored in, we either hung on to 1000 of them of actually lost 40,000 native Illinoisans.

It's from the 1 year ACS. It accounts for anything. It just means for example there were 15,000+ more foreign born people in Chicago in 2015 versus 2014.

There's also mobility data for people 1+ years old taking into their home a year prior. Of course in every city, the vast majority of people did not move compared to a year prior. Funny thing about Chicago is that there were slightly more people living abroad a year prior who moved to Chicago in 2015 than the amount of people who lived in Illinois but outside of Cook County a year prior and moved to Chicago.

People often, even here, talk about how much Chicago is a draw for people to move to from the Midwest. This is pretty much true of any city - it's always going to be a draw for people inside of that region. I wanted to find out how Chicago stacks up against the other 9 largest US cities in drawing people from OUTSIDE of its region. I.e. For Chicago, what percentage of people were living outside of the midwest a year prior who then moved to Chicago? Here you go:

1. San Diego (West): 3.69%
2. Houston (South): 3.2%
3. San Jose (West): 2.58%
4. Dallas (South): 2.25%
5. Chicago (Midwest): 2.14%
6. Philadelphia (Northeast): 2.07%
7. San Antonio (South): 1.96%
8. NYC (Northeast): 1.92%
9. Los Angeles (West): 1.89%
10. Phoenix (West): 1.80%

As a percentage of only people who moved anywhere (including in own city):
1. San Diego: 21.84%
2. San Jose: 20.44%
3. NYC: 19.20%
4. Houston: 16.69%
5. Los Angeles: 15.08%
6. Philadelphia: 14.75%
7. Chicago: 14%
8. Dallas: 12.78%
9. Phoenix: 10.44%
10. San Antonio: 10.03%

Percentage of people who moved from another country (from total number of people):
1. Houston: 3.20%
2. San Diego: 1.78%
3. San Jose: 1.65%
4. NYC: 1.06%
5. Dallas: 1.03%
6. Chicago: 0.90%
7. Los Angeles: 0.83%
8. Philadelphia: 0.79%
9. San Antonio: 0.57%
10. Phoenix: 0.47%

SteelMonkey · #**36712** Posted **Mar 29, 2017, 2:51 AM**

That is solid work

BVictor1 · #**36713** Posted **Mar 29, 2017, 3:01 AM**

Park Station Lofts
63rd and Blackstone
10 stories
retail on the first floor
live work lofts
135 units
DL3 Realtor
20th Ward (Woodlawn)

There's a long way to go, but it's being proposed.

TimeAgain · #**36714** Posted **Mar 29, 2017, 3:11 AM**

Come on, Woodlawn!

UrbanLibertine · #**36715** Posted **Mar 29, 2017, 3:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by Mikemak27

Five attached, two million dollar and above row homes are planned to replace ten rental units in Lincoln Park. They will be approximately 4000 square feet each.
Just another example of the de-densification of Lincoln Park.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/reale...ln-park-corner

These appear to be the same architects building the single family homes at the end of Oakley, near the river and the Lathrop Homes: http://www.sgwarch.com/oakdale-1/

Chicago Shawn · #**36716** Posted **Mar 29, 2017, 3:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by ardecila

Doubtful. It just looks like a small lifestyle brand aimed at the kind of young Latinos who hang out at Simone's.

Here's a rendering from the architect's website, but it raises more questions than it answers. Is this retail? Professional offices? All I know is, it can't be residential as it sits in a PMD. It seems to be built into the side of the railroad embankment so the parking lot in back is actually on the upper level.

M Works

I read somewhere this site was planned for 2 story retail with parking on the roof. Continued southwest march of Chinatown commerce if that is what is happening, and I certainly am hopeful for it.

the urban politician · #**36717** Posted **Mar 29, 2017, 2:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by BVictor1

Park Station Lofts
63rd and Blackstone
10 stories
retail on the first floor
live work lofts
135 units
DL3 Realtor
20th Ward (Woodlawn)

There's a long way to go, but it's being proposed.

Hell yeah! Now that's what I call a proposal

Mr Downtown · #**36718** Posted **Mar 29, 2017, 2:47 PM**

^or a fever dream.

Randomguy34 · #**36719** Posted **Mar 29, 2017, 3:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown

^or a fever dream.

Given that this will be two blocks from the Obama Library site, it might not be just a dream a few years from now

Also I count 12 stories for the proposal, not 10, so this technically is a high rise

Mikemak27 · #**36720** Posted **Mar 29, 2017, 4:53 PM**

A member of the Facebook group Noble Square Neighborhood Watch shared that she received a letter about a proposed zoning change of the grassy field and parking lot south of the Polish Church on the corner of Noble and Walton. They're looking to go from RS-3 to B2-3 neighborhood mixed use district. It would be a 5 story building with 160 units and 111 parking spaces.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/339265...urce=typeahead