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Old Posted Mar 15, 2015, 4:48 AM
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maybe im missing whats so great about it outside of the basics? if nothing else, i wish it would take a true flatiron form at that intersection instead of a sure to be perpetually underutilized "plaza"
I agree about the plaza. I like plazas and think Chicago should have more, but one that's next to a very wide, high-speed intersection is not going to be used by pedestrians.
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I was talking about abolishing parking lots, not the catholic church.

What is Basecamp? An affordable housing concept or something? If it's just a residential development that name is terrible. Trying to build a brand around it, too? Basecamp Cicero, Basecamp South Loop, Basecamp Normal? Ugh I hope it's the name of a charity or something.
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Basecamp River North update:




All photos courtesy of Basecamp RN FB page from the past 5 weeks.


Also of particular interest:

This area really isn't River North. It's just north and outside the boundaries of...

When I saw the above picture, it struck a chord with me. Dantrell Davis Way... I remember when that tragedy happened. I can't believe it's been so long, but I remember it like it was yesterday. It was such a horrific tragedy He was just walking to school. 23 years have passed.
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I was talking about abolishing parking lots, not the catholic church.

What is Basecamp? An affordable housing concept or something? If it's just a residential development that name is terrible. Trying to build a brand around it, too? Basecamp Cicero, Basecamp South Loop, Basecamp Normal? Ugh I hope it's the name of a charity or something.
It's luxury market rate housing... Higher-end at $650k-$850k. I dunno, I think the name is okay...
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2015, 3:33 PM
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Basecamp River North update:
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Does anyone have a guess where this is going? Im having a hard time spotting an area of OIP where you could stick a few dozen high end townhomes

Edit - Ranquist's website has a single image as a 'sneak peak' for Basecamp OIP, and it is going to be 48 Detached SFH... still no clue on the whereabouts
Can't be sure, but an expired PD in an industrial strip between Milw and the tracks (across from Shurz's proposed soccer field) got redrawn and reissued last April.

It calls for 48 detached sfh
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2015, 3:51 PM
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I agree about the plaza. I like plazas and think Chicago should have more, but one that's next to a very wide, high-speed intersection is not going to be used by pedestrians.
Definitely needs more plazas and not the huge ones where they're sparsely populated. People give the Viagra Triangle shit, but it's perhaps one of the most vibrant parts of town when it's nice enough to spend time outside and a huge part of that is because of the plaza in the middle of it.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2015, 4:05 PM
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^ I think it would help to have a different nickname than 'Viagra Triangle'
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2015, 4:20 PM
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^ I think it would help to have a different nickname than 'Viagra Triangle'
Totally - I mean it's technically called Mariano Park. The area is great though in the summer (or when it's nice out and people are chilling outside). It reminds me of some small plazas I've been to in Europe where people are just relaxing outside, taking it easy and conversing or people watching.

There's another newer one to the south too where they put that Argo Tea. Say what you will about it, but as someone who lives near there, it's been great. People actually sit out there, plus there's free live music out there pretty much everyday when it's nice out and since it's a public park, you don't have to buy shit from Argo if you don't want to just to enjoy it.


Getting back to the name, I think the stereotype has changed a little bit. There will still be older rich dudes there, but the GC has attracted a much younger crowd. Not to mention Velvet Taco, which belongs in Wicker Park, is now there. Nico Osteria and its lounge are nice and doesn't 100% scream Dbag money (though maybe a little bit). The Thompson is a nice boutique hotel that attracts young people too. Urban Outfitters is going in there soon too. There's still an element of the old rich dude and young girl thing. However, I think that's part of what makes the specific area hilarious and great for people watching.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2015, 4:29 PM
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I was talking about abolishing parking lots, not the catholic church.

What is Basecamp? An affordable housing concept or something? If it's just a residential development that name is terrible. Trying to build a brand around it, too? Basecamp Cicero, Basecamp South Loop, Basecamp Normal? Ugh I hope it's the name of a charity or something.
Other than the obvious link to a secure campsite established prior to climbing up a hard mountain route, I think the "basecamp" is playing on the tech industry in River North, the term "basecamp" is used in a number of ways that make it an appealing word to people in tech startups.

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^ I think it would help to have a different nickname than 'Viagra Triangle'
Okay, just spitballing here: perhaps "Pick-me-up Plaza"? "Plaza Plenty-a-green"? "Coked-up Corner"? "Mistress Market"? "Esplanade esplanade"? "(over)Compensating Court"? "Lookers-n-hookers Lane"?
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2015, 4:37 PM
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What is Basecamp? An affordable housing concept or something? If it's just a residential development that name is terrible. Trying to build a brand around it, too? Basecamp Cicero, Basecamp South Loop, Basecamp Normal? Ugh I hope it's the name of a charity or something.
47 650K-800K Townhomes smack in the middle of Cabrini. Joint development between Ranquist and LG. Who cares what it is named, or if they are trying to start a brand, it is only used to advertise and sell these things, five years from now no one will even remember.


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This area really isn't River North. It's just north and outside the boundaries of...
Agreed, I imagine it is a lot easier to sell people on it being River North than Old Town, and associates with a hotter neighborhood than Near North Side.

I really wish the area would get designated Cabrini or Little Hell. So much more character and history than Near North Side, or whatever the CHA redevelopment is trying to call it nowadays... Parkside at Old Town?
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Yeah, it's weird that "Basecamp River North" is almost totally surrounded by "ParkSide of Old Town". It's really a vast gray area, though, so the realtors and developers will decide what to call it.

Continuing to call it Cabrini would be nice from a historical perspective but probably not realistic. Little Hell is awesome but it recalls an era that almost nobody can remember, the history was literally wiped off the map. Even in New York the developers have tried to re-brand Hell's Kitchen.
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Other than the obvious link to a secure campsite established prior to climbing up a hard mountain route, I think the "basecamp" is playing on the tech industry in River North, the term "basecamp" is used in a number of ways that make it an appealing word to people in tech startups.



Okay, just spitballing here: perhaps "Pick-me-up Plaza"? "Plaza Plenty-a-green"? "Coked-up Corner"? "Mistress Market"? "Esplanade esplanade"? "(over)Compensating Court"? "Lookers-n-hookers Lane"?
Well, you win SSP today.
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Division and Clybourn


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Ugh. I'm counting the days until these ugly, cheap, painted concrete econo-boxes finally die.

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maybe im missing whats so great about it outside of the basics? if nothing else, i wish it would take a true flatiron form at that intersection instead of a sure to be perpetually underutilized "plaza"
Great point. It's really silly to force a cafe plaza into the design. That is a heavy traffic, car-oriented area. But, I guess when you're catering to the Naperville clientele, a stupid ass cafe plaza is necessary to sell your ugly ass building as urban, hip, and chic.
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Agreed, I imagine it is a lot easier to sell people on it being River North than Old Town, and associates with a hotter neighborhood than Near North Side.

I really wish the area would get designated Cabrini or Little Hell. So much more character and history than Near North Side, or whatever the CHA redevelopment is trying to call it nowadays... Parkside at Old Town?
All those names are arbitrary, change, and adapt to the real estate market. They're all kind of silly anyway. It's all the Near North Side and will always be. Cabrini–Green, Gold Coast, Old Town, River North... they're all unofficially neighborhood designations with no set boundaries or boarders. If people wanna call this River North, then it will be River North. It's like the same stupid conversation people have about where Wicker Park ends and Bucktown begins. It's all made up and has no real basis.
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2015, 1:34 AM
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Back to parking lots, does anybody know about this lot between the Sheraton, NBC Tower, and the river? There's an awful swath of lots in that area, most of which I believe is in talks to become part of an expanded Tribune Tower/Center, but I don't know if this specific one is part of that.

It's prime riverfront. You could put a tower there.
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2015, 3:36 AM
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Great point. It's really silly to force a cafe plaza into the design. That is a heavy traffic, car-oriented area. But, I guess when you're catering to the Naperville clientele, a stupid ass cafe plaza is necessary to sell your ugly ass building as urban, hip, and chic.
No, the plaza makes it easier to rent out the space to a restaurant. Since it is private property, the restaurant can have a generous outdoor area without having to seek city approval and pay city rent.

We will see if they can rent to a restaurant... doesn't seem like they are providing any parking, but if they expect people to come on foot, they will need to cross one of the most pedestrian-hostile intersections in the downtown area. I've always thought the city should break that huge stretch of Division with some landscaped medians.
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Ugh. I'm counting the days until these ugly, cheap, painted concrete econo-boxes finally die.
You're gonna be counting for a while...
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Took this photo on the way to work this AM - didn't know what the river condition here was going to be - certainly seems different than what they've done elsewhere - like an amphitheater/stair/planter kind of detail - which I think would/will be really nice - and give the wacker drive sidewalk a more connected feel to the river.
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2015, 4:38 PM
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^Yep, that section will be the "River Theater".


(Ignore the fact that the buildings in the bg of the render are wrong, off by a block)


The planners said that this will probably be how most people get up and down from the street level.
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