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Old Posted Mar 11, 2023, 6:39 PM
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What reception for Péladeau in the circle of the CFL? (Translated)
Eric Leblanc rds.ca March 10, 2023

MONTREAL – To ensure the survival of the Montreal Alouettes, the CFL now wanted to find a local and well-off owner. This objective having been accomplished, it will be necessary to see how Pierre Karl Péladeau will fit into the circle of governors which is unknown in Quebec.

“When we started this process, the goal of the CFL was to find a local, passionate, strong and community-oriented owner. […] One thing we really liked was [Péladeau's] long-term commitment to the Alouettes,” said Ambrosie.

Always very positive, the commissioner assures that Péladeau was well received by his new counterparts. We assume that the rescue of the Alouettes is positive news, but that does not hide the fact that Péladeau is at the head of an empire that finds itself in competition with Bell Media, and thus TSN, which is a determining partner of the CFL. for so many years.

“What I respect a lot about our governors is that they are thoughtful leaders. They know we have owners who own rival businesses. But they rally for our common goal: the success of our circuit so that it grows. The focus was on that. Stronger Alouettes make the CFL stronger, which is good for all teams,” Ambrosie reacted after the press conference, stepping away from the tape he uses too often.

“I felt that they are professionals, passionate about the success of the CFL. A bit like the saying 'All for one and one for all' for the success of the CFL,” described Péladeau on the reception of the other owners.

Subsequently, Ambrosie added this clarification.

“I expect Bell, TSN and RDS to remain excellent partners. When I spoke to them, they understand what this transaction means: a stronger organization for the Alouettes. »

In front of the media, Ambrosie claimed that about 10 to 15 groups had expressed an interest in the Alouettes when the process was triggered. A few minutes later, he clarified that the majority of the groups were from Quebec, some from outside the province and one from outside the country.

According to the information collected, this number was tightened without delay. We know that another Quebec group, with very solid financial means, was in the picture at the start.

“But Pierre Karl expressed the most passionate interest from day one while wanting to work very quickly so that it happened quickly. Each group had the same chance to participate in the process and look at the data. Except that each entity worked at its own speed whereas Pierre Karl wanted to go quickly. We informed the other groups and encouraged them to do so,” Ambrosie said.

Initially, the previous owners (Gary Stern and the estate of Sid Spiegel) attempted to act on their own. This delay has delayed the Alouettes' efforts on the free agent market and it will be necessary to see whether the team will recover quickly from major losses, including those of Trevor Harris, Eugene Lewis and Adarius Pickett.

Moreover, Ambrosie preferred to avoid the subject when he was asked to explain why the former owners left the nest without explaining themselves to the supporters.

When will there be sports facilities for the Alouettes?

To ensure their sustainability, sports organizations, especially in a less wealthy circuit like the CFL, must own assets such as sports facilities such as a stadium or a training complex.

In 2023, it's rather sad that the Alouettes were not able to afford this. But, according to Ambrosie, nothing was required of Péladeau on this subject to complete the purchase of the team.

“We didn't discuss the specific elements of what they want to accomplish because we were focused on closing the deal. What I can say is that we were reassured by the passion and commitment. We realize that he and the leaders have to take time and we look forward to helping them in their projects. The governors said during a call 'If we can help you, let us know',” Ambrosie replied.

“I want all of our teams to have the resources they need. I am curious to see the changes that will occur and we will support them with our resources, ”he continued.

However, is this unacceptable for the CFL?

“Each team has a different context, we will support them as best we can. We want the best environment for players and employees,” noted the commissioner.

The first step remained to secure a return to McGill University in 2023, which has been done in recent weeks.

"To arrive at this transaction, Pierre Karl wanted the assurance of being able to continue the relationship with McGill and we were able to assure them that this arrangement was in place," said Ambrosie.
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2023, 7:44 PM
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Bud Grant passed away today at 95 greatest Blue Bombers coach 4 Grey Cups in 5 years. Excellent player too for the Bombers.
Wow. Legend. 4x Grey Cup champion as Bomber head coach. He played pro football (CFL/NFL) as well as in the NBA which has to be a pretty rare combo. And of course led the Vikings to all four of their Super Bowl appearances.
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Bud Grant was a legend both as a coach and a player. Finished second in the NFL in receiving yards in 1952. The very next season he signs with the Blue
Bombers and finishes first in the West in receiving yards and does that again in 1956. Retires as a 3-time CFL all star.

He immediately moves into coaching and wins 12 games in his first season as the Bomber coach. He follows this up with 5 division titles and 4 Championships in 5 years as part of the 2nd greatest dynasty in CFL history. Finished with a 102-56-2 record in the CFL. Arguably the greatest CFL coach of all-time.

He signs on as coach of the Minnesota Vikings and almost immediately turns around the franchise winning 11 division titles and taking his club to 4 Superbowls unfortunately losing in all 4 of them. His team finished with the best record in the league 5 times. Overall he had a record of 158 - 96 - 5. Greatest NFL coach to never win a Superbowl.

Oh and for good measure Bud found time to win an NBA championship with the Lakers as a player.
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Bud Grant was a life well lived the greatest Blue Bomber of them all.

Bud Grant's Legendary Garage Sale | NFL Films Presents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSK-_f5us2A

Bud Grant: The Making of an NFL Legend | NFL Films Presents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VFbS7mfHLg
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A more competitive and more visible Alouettes team means more CFL talk in the Montreal-based francophone media. That can give the Redblacks a tiny bump too. Especially for home games against them.
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Bud Grant was a life well lived the greatest Blue Bomber of them all.

Bud Grant's Legendary Garage Sale | NFL Films Presents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSK-_f5us2A

Bud Grant: The Making of an NFL Legend | NFL Films Presents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VFbS7mfHLg

Love those videos. Thanks!

I really wish the CFL did a better job (or even just "a" job) documenting its history and people. There is stuff out there to be found, but if we had a "CFL Films" it would be very good for promoting the game.
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There is stuff out there to be found, but if we had a "CFL Films" it would be very good for promoting the game.
I'll keep saying it...FAST channel.
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Love those videos. Thanks!

I really wish the CFL did a better job (or even just "a" job) documenting its history and people. There is stuff out there to be found, but if we had a "CFL Films" it would be very good for promoting the game.
Totally agree - I would be all over a “CFL Films”.
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I can't remember a time when the league was on a more solid ownership footing than it is now.
With the addition of Péladeau, who will represent the Alouettes’ interests as the team’s lead governor on the CFL board of governors, the CFL has built a team including Amar Doman of the B.C. Lions, Calgary Sports and Entertainment Corporation, Hamilton Sports Group, Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment Ltd., Ottawa Sports and Entertainment Group, and boards who guide the league’s community-owned teams in Edmonton, Saskatchewan, and Winnipeg.
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I'll keep saying it...FAST channel.


When Young bought the Ticats I had high hopes there would be more... the CFL's internet footprint did get bigger, but then so did everyone's!

It's past time for a new stab at "more"
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2023, 7:07 PM
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It's past time for a new stab at "more"
Why the CFL has to look at other options aside from the present "cable" model.

I say that as if it were something simple and that they had much of a choice. It is likely they didn't, they weren't going to get the kind of money they did from any other source. But the world is rapidly changing and there is much more to think about now if they want to grow their audience rather than shrink it by remaining "cable" exclusive

The article below focuses on ATSC 3.0 the latest TV standard that is delivered old school (via a transmitter and antenna). The rollout in the US should have three quarters of the country covered by the end of the year. But like HDTV there will be inevitable delays in the technology and acceptance of it getting to the public (ie TV tuners that can accept the signal).

Although it is being tested in Canada, there are no plans to implement ATSC 3.0 in Canada, but history often tells us that whatever happens in the US often makes it way here. Tangentially, the CBC has recently announced that they are looking at an all streaming model which would likely mean the removal not addition of transmitters.

These are some of the things the CFL must consider when moving forward.

The Future of TV is Up in the Air
Janko Roettgers theverge.com March 10, 2023

Free streaming channels are booming

Antenna usage remains popular, especially among lower-income and immigrant households. Eighteen percent of TV viewers told market researchers last year that they owned an antenna. The Consumer Technology Association estimates that there will be around 8.5 million antenna sales this year alone.

Those numbers have prompted Scripps to bet big on over-the-air television. With cable TV audiences declining, over-the-air seemed like the best bet to reach millions of eyeballs that the company can then monetize with advertising.

But while Scripps was busy pouring billions into broadcast networks and infrastructure, another way to watch linear television emerged: free, ad-supported streaming channels (FAST). Turn on any smart TV these days, and you’ll find program guides with hundreds of TV channels featuring familiar names like AMC, NBC and FOX, with no need to pay for cable or hook up an antenna.

These free linear channels have been a big hit with audiences and advertisers: Samsung alone claims to stream more than 3 billion hours of free linear programming to its smart TVs per year, and advertisers are expected to spend more than $4 billion on domestic linear streaming services this year — ad revenue that directly benefits TV makers.

Today, many media companies still use these so-called FAST channels as a way to make some extra money with older shows. AMC, for instance, doesn’t stream its cable channel to smart TV viewers, in part because it has exclusive deals with cable TV services. Instead, it has dedicated FAST channels for back-to-back The Walking Dead and Portlandia reruns.

However, some broadcasters have begun to retransmit their linear feeds as FAST channels. Scripps, for instance, has been streaming its Ion and Bounce broadcast networks in their entirety, and the explosive growth of FAST is not lost on the company. “When we track audience levels for over the air, we’re generally looking at how we’re doing year over year because it’s kind of a slower-moving train at this point,” said Scripps Networks chief research officer Jon Marks. “When we look at FAST, we’re looking at it quarter by quarter because that’s how fast it’s growing.”
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^ New stadium?! Why would the soccer team be considering they have built their stadium from the ground up over the last decade or two?
CF Montreal and Montreal Alouettes No common stadium anytime soon (Translated)
Unlike many of their contemporaries, CF Montreal and the Montreal Alouettes do not share a stadium. A reality that will not change in the near future.
Justin Vezina La Presse March 17 2023



Last Friday, during the press conference which formalized the purchase of the Alouettes by Pierre Karl Péladeau, the latter was called upon to comment on several issues. One of the most pressing issues for the Larks is to equip themselves with a modern stadium worthy of CFL activities. The club has played at the Percival-Molson stadium since 1997, but the park was created in 1915.

“It's not the most modern. It is certainly one of the oldest,” noted Mr. Péladeau about the Percival-Molson stadium.

When the businessman was asked if he could see a new stadium with CF Montreal as a roommate, he replied that “it's not impossible. If it were possible to do so, we would do so with great enthusiasm”.

He tempered by mentioning that it was however “premature” to discuss the possibility of this project, but still to have “a lot of esteem for Joey Saputo and his family”.

If the question was asked to Mr. Péladeau, it is because it is practically a formality in Canada to see the formations of the CFL sharing their stadium with a professional soccer team. In fact, the other two Canadian MLS clubs and three Canadian Premier League teams share a stadium with a CFL team.

Of the four remaining CFL teams, two of them do not have a professional soccer team playing in their city. The only organizations that are exceptions to the rule are those of Montreal and Calgary.

A not optimal position for CFM

For its part, CFM has been playing at the Saputo Stadium since its opening in 2008. However, despite the fact that the stadium is owned by the Saputo Group, it was built on land belonging to the Société de développement et de mise en Valeur du Parc Olympic, ceded by emphyteutic lease for a period of forty years.

In theory, for the next 25 years, the tenant — in this case, the CFM — must pay annual and other taxes. So any improvement at Saputo Stadium would be synonymous with a tax increase.


At the beginning of March, the president of CFM, Gabriel Gervais, revealed to BPM Sports that the Montreal club was planning, in particular, to build a new stadium. A marriage between the Alouettes and CFM therefore seemed likely.

Tuesday evening during the launch of the CFM season, Mr. Gervais also said that he would “listen to all possibilities for a partnership of this kind”. He then also calmed things down.

"We thank Mr. Péladeau for his comments and we will assess the situation when it arises. But for now it's premature to talk about a common stadium between CF Montreal and the Alouettes. We haven't gotten there."
Gabriel Gervais, President of CF Montreal


There is therefore nothing concrete about the idea of ​​a common stadium for the two clubs. But with two parts open, it is possible that it will go a long way.

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At the beginning of March, the president of CFM, Gabriel Gervais, revealed to BPM Sports that the Montreal club was planning, in particular, to build a new stadium. A marriage between the Alouettes and CFM therefore seemed likely.
So, if this ever came to pass what would you like to see? I would like to see a retractable dome, 30-35k stadium with a retractable turf slab.

We basically only have one working year round stadium in Canada (BC Place). SkyDome is unusable for anything but baseball and The Big O is too big and will require too much money to get to state of the art.

Also, Vancouver is an issue for our European and Central Canadian based soccer players to get to. We need a smaller BC Place clone in the Central/Eastern part of the country.

Perhaps something along the line of Tele2 Arena in Stockholm which was the early inspiration for Mosaic Stadium until the fact of the roof adding $100 million to the cost.



I can dream, but Montreal once dreamt big as well and a lot of that misadventure was preventable if the townsfolk aren't too gun shy to try again.
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CF Montreal and Montreal Alouettes No common stadium anytime soon (Translated)
Unlike many of their contemporaries, CF Montreal and the Montreal Alouettes do not share a stadium. A reality that will not change in the near future.
Justin Vezina La Presse March 17 2023



Last Friday, during the press conference which formalized the purchase of the Alouettes by Pierre Karl Péladeau, the latter was called upon to comment on several issues. One of the most pressing issues for the Larks is to equip themselves with a modern stadium worthy of CFL activities. The club has played at the Percival-Molson stadium since 1997, but the park was created in 1915.

“It's not the most modern. It is certainly one of the oldest,” noted Mr. Péladeau about the Percival-Molson stadium.

When the businessman was asked if he could see a new stadium with CF Montreal as a roommate, he replied that “it's not impossible. If it were possible to do so, we would do so with great enthusiasm”.

He tempered by mentioning that it was however “premature” to discuss the possibility of this project, but still to have “a lot of esteem for Joey Saputo and his family”.

If the question was asked to Mr. Péladeau, it is because it is practically a formality in Canada to see the formations of the CFL sharing their stadium with a professional soccer team. In fact, the other two Canadian MLS clubs and three Canadian Premier League teams share a stadium with a CFL team.

Of the four remaining CFL teams, two of them do not have a professional soccer team playing in their city. The only organizations that are exceptions to the rule are those of Montreal and Calgary.

A not optimal position for CFM

For its part, CFM has been playing at the Saputo Stadium since its opening in 2008. However, despite the fact that the stadium is owned by the Saputo Group, it was built on land belonging to the Société de développement et de mise en Valeur du Parc Olympic, ceded by emphyteutic lease for a period of forty years.

In theory, for the next 25 years, the tenant — in this case, the CFM — must pay annual and other taxes. So any improvement at Saputo Stadium would be synonymous with a tax increase.


At the beginning of March, the president of CFM, Gabriel Gervais, revealed to BPM Sports that the Montreal club was planning, in particular, to build a new stadium. A marriage between the Alouettes and CFM therefore seemed likely.

Tuesday evening during the launch of the CFM season, Mr. Gervais also said that he would “listen to all possibilities for a partnership of this kind”. He then also calmed things down.

"We thank Mr. Péladeau for his comments and we will assess the situation when it arises. But for now it's premature to talk about a common stadium between CF Montreal and the Alouettes. We haven't gotten there."
Gabriel Gervais, President of CF Montreal


There is therefore nothing concrete about the idea of ​​a common stadium for the two clubs. But with two parts open, it is possible that it will go a long way.
Oh wow well personally I would love to see a design similar to Hong Kong stadium that was built in 1994 but at a scale of 24000 seats that's expandable to 35000 for Grey Cups. If this ever happened I would think this would put even more pressure on the Quebec government to redevelop Olympic stadium into something else?
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Based on what MLS Stadiums of the past 10 years have cost, a new MLS/CFL stadium seating 20 - 25,000 would likely start at no less than $250 million and likely exceed $300 million.

I'm glad Winnipeg started construction on their stadium 12 years ago. Building an exact duplicate starting today would likely cost nearly $400 million at this point.

Don't believe those bullshit inflationary estimates listed on Wikipedia for earlier stadium/arena builds. They vastly underestimate the cost to build those same structures in the present.
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^ New stadium?! I can see why the Als are interested, but why would the soccer team be considering they have built their stadium from the ground up over the last decade or two?
Saputo issues detailed here:

An improved Saputo Stadium would cost between $75M and $100M (Translated)
Jeremy Filosa 98.5 Sports March 3, 2022

A new stadium for CF Montreal? (Translated)
The Dilemma of Joey Saputo
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Sounds like Saputo Stadium is going to be added to the growing list of Montreal stadiums that were obsolete and considered undesirable for one reason or another barely after opening:

-Autostade
-Jarry Park
-Olympic Stadium
-now, Saputo Stadium

I wonder if there is another North American city that has spent so much on stadiums with almost nothing to show for it?!

By comparison, LA Memorial Coliseum has hosted USC, two NFL teams, MLB briefly, and will soon host its third Olympics?!
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I am not sure what spots in downtown Montreal would be still available for a Stadium or if it would better fit on Universite de Montreal Campus or Concordia? I don't think McGill would work as Molson stadium rebuild would not work as land is too scarce at McGill to work properly for a suitable modern stadium.
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I can't remember and am too lazy to look it up but what about the proposed area where Labatt Park (the new baseball stadium) was supposed to go. Who owns that?

Between Saputo and Peledeau they must have some real estate or a third partner connection (likely the only way a new stadium would be built)

Just looked it up. Labatt Park would have been located on the corner of Peel and St-Jacques, just blocks away from the Bell Centre. Condos have since been built on the proposed stadium land.
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I see the old blue bonnets horse race track is abandoned that might be an excellent spot for a stadium compared to expensive downtown land values.
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