How many Irish Pubs does your city have?

[C.]

And what's the most famous?

[benp]

Originally Posted by C.

And what's the most famous?

I'm curious about what may be said about other cities, but as my city has a huge Irish-American presence, including 2 separate neighborhood enclaves, I really don't know how to count all of the neighborhood bars and taverns that are "Irish." I'm sure that's true for a lot of Northeastern cities, also.

[jmecklenborg]

I would only count the ones that have been around for at least 50, if not 100 years. There was a big rash of "Irish" pubs that appeared in airports, shopping malls, and Inner-Harbor type city gimmick developments in the 1990s along with the push of Guinness and Murphy's into the U.S. market.

Where I live in Cincinnati, a number of 100~ year-old Irish pubs are still going.

O'Mally's downtown:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0992...7i13312!8i6656

The Crow's Nest (or if you're from here, you just call it The Nest) in Price Hill:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1093...7i16384!8i8192

Crowley's in Mt. Adams:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1076...7i16384!8i8192

Murphy's Pub in Clifton Heights (famous because Nirvana played here in 1989 for a crowd of 30 [https://www.citybeat.com/music/on-th...on-12267221]):
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1245...7i16384!8i8192

The Flying Pig in Oakley:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1537...7i16384!8i8192

Foley's (not in its original building):
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2233...7i16384!8i8192

RP McMurphys (not really all that Irish anymore):
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1443...7i16384!8i8192

[xzmattzx]

It depends on what is an Irish pub. Like mentioned, an Irish pub/bar that's 75-100+ years old is different than an Irish pub that's less than 40 years old.

In Wilmington, there's several Irish pubs that are new, but maybe just a couple that are more than 50 years old. The most famous is Logan House, which was located right across the street from a train station, and opened in 1860 (or around then). Buffalo Bill and Al Capone are known to have stopped in there, among others, as they stopped in town from the train station. The station is long gone, but the bar is there, and now centers the Trolley Square neighborhood, which is Wilmington's bar district.

[muppet]

London has a gadillion Irish pubs, but mother ship is Waxy O' Connors in Chinatown, labyrinthine, on six levels with a capacity of 750. Inside it looks very Hogwarts, and resembles an Irish church:






DOESN'T IT LOOK LOVELY???

Oh one last thing, it is an utter, utter shithole.

Definitely NOT a pub experience, and not an Irish one either -over capacity day and night with street drinkers and misinformed tourists. I'd compare it to a tacky, crowded nightclub rather than anywhere convivial. Ripe for a fight, and people very, very drunk.




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FC9M36mW...name=4096x4096

[muppet]

"Irish" pubs in London are now the mainstay of a much older generation, as young Irish don't gravitate to dark, old fashioned places anymore - they don't have the best reputation. Pubs in general are much more airy and light these days whilst traditional Irish ones resemble unvarnished, dark boozers from before the 90s, that's only popular with the older Celtic community -long a mainstay of the working class. These days with Ireland the 'Celtic Tiger' and the richest country in the world that's not a city state, the new set of moneyed, Irish migrants would more likely be hanging out in the wankervilles of the West End, and not be seen dead in a classic boozer.

This of old -almost a trope that Irish pubs all look like this still:










rather than this:









mod versions do a swell remake though (all pictured so far are Irish pubs, as are these)


https://irishpubcompany.com

There's no real difference in English /Irish pubs persay except for the alcohol offered is dominated by Irish brands, usually with Irish memorabilia on the walls and the premises owned independently. Saying that, the most traditional of the Irish boozers are that in name only because of their longstanding clientele and ownership, that will have passed down for generations as a focus for the community - with little overt Irish branding other than being called O'Connors or O'Flynns etc. All-in-all Irish pubs do tend to be more old fashioned.

[iheartthed]

No clue how many total, and I doubt anyone does know, but the most famous in NYC is McSorley's.

[pdxtex]

Pubs with something Irish in the name? Maybe 20 or 30. Pubs with creaky floors, wooden tavern seating, dim lighting and darts? Probably 200.

[Steely Dan]

I wouldn't even know how to go about answering this question for the entire city of Chicago, but my neighborhood has 5 "Irish" pubs of note: The Grafton, The Atlantic, Claddagh Ring, O'Shaughnessy's, and Gannon's.

[bnk]

I will try and find out. But according to this list looks like a lot Chicago Irish ended up in Naperville.

Top 5

1 Boston
2 Chicago
3 NYC
4 Pittsburgh
5 Naperville ?


Not sure of the methodology here


https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/st...s-beloved-pubs

Most Irish cities in US and their beloved pubs

March 17, 2022 6:00am EDT








Makes sense most of the worlds Irish pubs are in the USA, considering how small Ireland is in population.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joemica...h=377bc9131929

How Irish Americans And Their Pubs Saved Irish Whiskey

Feb 16, 2020,09:20am EST

Today, there are approximately six million people living in Ireland, slightly more than half the population of Ireland in the 1840s and less than 10% of the Irish diaspora.

By 1900, the Irish were the largest ethnic group in America. Roughly one of every eight Americans, about 12% of the population, claimed Irish roots.


Today, there are some 7,000 Irish pubs in the world, of which about 4,000 are in the US.















EDIT

After searching it is very difficult thing to find. But their is no shortage of Irish pubs in Chicagoland. Probably in the several hundreds easy. I noticed Irish pub deserts in minority majority hoods which makes sense.



here is a ranked list of the 18th best in Chicago. At least half of them look really good. Some are old and some are more modern


https://www.timeout.com/chicago/bars/best-irish-pubs



Some ones I have been to and liked with photos in the link, ranked by first being my favorite. The last one I've been to the most because i was once a Cubs season ticket owner.
All of the links below have direct links to each pub.


https://www.timeout.com/chicago/bars...bar-restaurant

https://www.timeout.com/chicago/bars...s-public-house

https://www.timeout.com/chicago/bars/the-kerryman

https://www.timeout.com/chicago/bars...ar-and-kitchen

https://www.timeout.com/chicago/bars/galway-arms

https://www.timeout.com/chicago/rest.../the-irish-oak

[JManc]

Don't anything about the Bay Area but Houston's most prominent are the Gorgeous Gael (in Rice Village), Shay McElroy's (downtown), Griff's (Montrose) and Molly's (downtown)

[C.]

Originally Posted by muppet

"Irish" pubs in London are now the mainstay of a much older generation, as young Irish don't gravitate to dark, old fashioned places anymore - they don't have the best reputation. Pubs in general are much more airy and light these days whilst traditional Irish pubs resemble unvarnished, dark boozers from before the 90s, that's only popular with the older Irish community -long a mainstay of the working class. These days with Ireland the 'Celtic Tiger' and the richest country in the world that's not a city state, the new set of moneyed, Irish migrants would more likely be hanging out in the wankervilles of the West End, and not be seen dead in a classic boozer.

WOW. Bucket List

[JManc]

In Paris, we went to this Irish pub almost every night; across the street from our hotel.

https://www.google.com/maps/@48.8598...7i16384!8i8192

[jmecklenborg]

Originally Posted by muppet

as young Irish don't gravitate to dark, old fashioned places anymore - they don't have the best reputation.

It's because England's wealth has skyrocketed over the past 20 years, and Ireland has money for the first time, ever. In the 2000s in the U.S., the hipster movement involved the urban upper class dressing like the rural lower class and ironically patronizing low-class bars and events. In the 2010s, that was left behind for what seems like an unending disco revival as easy professional jobs, luxury items, and hi-end restaurants and bars became commonplace, even in third-rate cities.

[Buckeye Native 001]

Not entirely sure why (grew up a "privileged" East Sider, I guess?) but Crow's Nest being across from a cemetery in Price Hill is way too on-brand for the West Side of Cincinnati.

[benp]

Not the fancy touristy places but mostly actual corner bars and pubs serving locals (but everyone is welcome!). Here are a few of the ones that I am familiar with, but there are many others in different neighborhoods.

A few better known in the Irish Old First Ward section in Buffalo are Swannie House (which dates from the 1800s), Ballyhoo (formerly Malamute), and Gene McCarthy's.

In the Irish neighborhoods of South Buffalo better known places are Blackthorne, Doc Sullivan's, Talty's, Daly's, Blarney Castle, and Hopper's.

In my North Buffalo neighborhood are Kelly's Korner, Murray's, and Del Denby's.

Here is the big downtown Irish Pub that's more in line with what others are posting, but it doesn't have the history of the neighborhood taverns around town.
The Banshee (formerly D'Arcy McGees).

[craigs]

I would imagine there are very few true Irish pubs in Los Angeles relative to older East Coast and Rust Belt cities. I see there are many listed on Yelp, but I have only been to one of them, and 'Irish pub' just doesn't have any cultural relevance here.

On a related note, I've got a couple of very good friends who were born in Ireland who detest Irish-American everything. They perceive the American version of Irish culture to be trapped in amber, self-consciously clinging to a time and mentality that has long since passed in Ireland itself.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by craigs

On a related note, I've got a couple of very good friends who were born in Ireland who detest Irish-American everything. They perceive the American version of Irish culture to be trapped in amber, self-consciously clinging to a time and mentality that has long since passed in Ireland itself.

Yeah, I can see that

But at the same time, there's also a mellower version of irish-american too.

Most of my paternal side is "Irish" (now 6 generations Chicago-STRONG!!!), but I do not possess a single shamrock or Irish flag tattoo anywhere ony body, nor will I ever.

And yet, being Irish-american, in part at least, still means "something" to me.

Maybe it's more of a "fuck the Irish"/"viva la Irish-american" kinda thing?




Europe is dumb.

And America is far dumber.

But at least we celebrate being stupid???


Source: https://chicago.curbed.com/2017/3/17...me-lapse-video

[mrnyc]

my favorite around nyc are the newer fake irish crap decoration pubs, but run by real off the boat irish, which make them ... real irish pubs. sorry, it's confusing.

[montréaliste]

Montreal has a good bunch of Irish pubs, mostly in the central neighborhoods in and around downtown, but the oldest such dates from 1978; the Old Dublin pub. There are chains like McKibbins’ and others that make a bundle on or around St Patrick’s day, of course.

The Irish here didn’t frequent “pubs" per se, and I guess the same goes for US and other Canadian cities for the most part. Up until the early, mid-eighties, Montreal was a tavern town, and transformed itself into a brasserie haven. Taverns used to cater only to men, and a few holdouts were famous for refusing to serve women a long time after the rules had changed. Magnan, a very prosperous tavern/restaurant in Pointe St-Charles, a working class part of the city finally relinquished in the nineties, I think. Magnan was a French Canadian, but in a very staunch Irish nabe. Nothing fancy, no snugs like they have in Ireland.

So, the older generations might remember bars and taverns that were popular in the Irish community here, and those places would have served perhaps some Irish and Scotch whisk(e)ys, but principally Canadian beer for the longest time.