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Old Posted Sep 6, 2016, 11:32 PM
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Bet this started to lean once the supporting neighbor was gone.




Birdhouses !

or possibly ports for pipes and vents.
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or possibly ports for pipes and vents.
Surely it's for the birds.

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PDs almost never include any offsite improvements. The best we can hope for is an easement that might allow 15th St. to someday be opened under the Metra tracks. Because that doesn't have enough room for 18-foot clearance, though, CDOT will claim it's pointless. The landowner (and nearby townhouse residents) will cheerfully agree.
O/T, but would CDOT actually be fixated on 18 feet? Don't fire trucks comfortably limbo under far smaller viaducts?
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From the aforementioned article.

Related Midwest expects to start conducting public meetings to outline plans for both projects (the spire site and rezko river site) in 2017, Bailey said.

"Both of these developments will help define Chicago in perpetuity," Bailey said. "Both will impact the skyline, one enormously so. They're important for the city. Having (Pfeffer) on staff to steward those forward is a crucial step for us."

This gives me comfort knowing Related understands the importance of the Spire site. Also, I'm gonna go ahead and infer what Bailey means by "enormous impact" and figure it will be 1,500' tall, minimum
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A better bet would be for CTA to re-route the 62 and/or 24 bus routes onto the new Wells/Wentworth. If they rerouted both lines, it would provide better than 10 minute frequencies at peak and better than 15 minute frequencies off-peak, and it would integrate the site into the city's transit network. Or CTA could re-route one of the lines and Related could sponsor additional frequencies on the northern section of the line.
Please not the #62, which has a healthy ridership on the stretch up State Street. It would be a shame to lose that.

The #24 is a much more intriguing possibility, at the moment it has limited hours, but rerouting that maybe on down Harrison and then a left on Wells would add possibilities not only for this development for the Riverline project. People could have close connections to/from the #36 and Metra (a block walk from Wells/Harrison) the Blue line at Clark and the Red line at State.
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would CDOT actually be fixated on 18 feet? Don't fire trucks comfortably limbo under far smaller viaducts?
Of course. Even a CTA bus only needs 10-6. The city is full of viaducts with less than 13-foot clearances. But logic is not the point when you have engineers—in an anatomic spectacle—covering their asses by holding up the Green Book.

What makes me predict this will be a problem? Because that's what happened in the negotiations for the previous PD. The civics and neighborhood groups asked for an entry at 15th, but all DPD would require was a strip of parkland there "to allow for a street in the future." Anyone ever try to turn "parkland" into a through street in a neighborhood of established townhouses?
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what is the as-of-right situation on the Spire site currently? Ceiling of 2000?
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what is the as-of-right situation on the Spire site currently? Ceiling of 2000?
Page 58 of the PD says 2,000 for the parcel (with Far 25!!), so almost anything within that height limit should be as-of-right.
https://gisapps.cityofchicago.org/gi..._pds/PD368.pdf
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Another big proposal hopefully to come in 2017:

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Big development site near Millennium Park goes up for sale

Working in favor of the Stetson site: It already has zoning for a 900,000-square-foot building, meaning a buyer likely wouldn't have to go through a lengthy and possibly contentious process to obtain the city's blessing for a big project there. That has become a bigger advantage since last year, when the city passed a more restrictive affordable-housing ordinance for new residential developments.
Source: http://www.chicagobusiness.com/reale...ntal-site-near

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Another big proposal hopefully to come in 2017:
which site?
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which site?
Whoops! It's at Stetson/Lake, the site of the former Mandarin Oriental proposal.
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Whoops! It's at Stetson/Lake, the site of the former Mandarin Oriental proposal.
I did not realize that had been in foreclosure for the last 7 years.
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Other great tidbits from Sterling Bay story

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The firm also is in the planning stages of residential towers at 300 N. Michigan Ave. and 160 N. Morgan St., Gloor said.

As part of the McDonald's deal, the firm plans a 200-room extended-stay hotel, most likely from Chicago-based Hyatt, just west of the fast-food giant's offices
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/reale...-citys-tallest

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^ A lot of other tidbits of info in that article
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^ A lot of other tidbits of info in that article
You're right, I kept getting excited with each new paragraph and didn't even get to the rest:

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Sterling Bay also wants to add enough new office space in Fulton Market, including a new building on land the firm bought from Coyne College, to accommodate as much as 1 million square feet of new demand from suburban vendors that want to move downtown to be close to McDonald's, Gloor said.
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To help offset a parking shortage in the area, Sterling Bay is also planning a 600-space garage in the area, he said.
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Gloor said Sterling Bay expects to complete the acquisition of the former A. Finkl & Sons steel plant property in Lincoln Park within the next 60 days. On that land and adjacent parcels the firm has been buying, Sterling Bay plans a “moderately dense” mix of commercial, retail and residential space, Gloor said.

The project could create 20,000 construction jobs and bring 10,000 to 15,000 full-time jobs to the area, he said.

Sterling Bay also plans to extend the 606 elevated trail east to the Finkl site, Gloor said.
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He also said Sterling Bay “will definitely try to buy” the Chicago Department of Fleet and Facility Management's 18-acre property directly west across the river from the FInkl site. Mayor Rahm Emanuel's office recently said the city was putting that site on the market for sale.
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You're right, I kept getting excited with each new paragraph and didn't even get to the rest:
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Sterling Bay also plans to extend the 606 elevated trail east to the Finkl site
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Does Sterling Bay have the capacity to do all this stuff all at the same time?
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^ Didn't they start off buying and renovating a 6 flat like 30 years ago?

Wow, now that's what I call a success story
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and 300 N Michigan?
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