CLEVELAND | Project Rundown

[mrnyc]

welp it looks like something is up in the gateway neighborhood downtown with a new minority guardians owner and dan gilbert detroit bedrock.

basically, it seems to be about st louis style ballpark village moves and deals.

as i understand it, the thinking is sportbooks are a thing and they want to nab march madness type events and have yearround entertainment -- as well as corporate hq and housing and the like.

no idea if its short or long term planning as yet:



Gateway megaproject taking shape
By Ken Prendergast / January 11, 2022


more:
https://neo-trans.blog/2022/01/11/ga...-taking-shape/


In a massing made for NEOtrans, this unofficial view shows what a pair of significant developments in downtown Cleveland’s Gateway District could look like on land sought by Bedrock Real Estate, left, and the other by Harris Blitzer Sports & Entertainment, right. Both are shown in a simplified massing with just one principal tower for each site, although more than two towers total could be built. They are intended to capitalize on the proximity of the Gateway Sports & Entertainment Complex that includes the recently renovated Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse and the to-be-renovated Progressive Field (Ian McDaniel).

[IrvineNative]

I've never been to Cleveland myself, but to me it's a fascinating city.

I always wonder if Cleveland had never stopped growing, if it would become another Toronto. As recently as 1960, Cleveland MSA had about as many people as Greater Toronto. Now Greater Toronto has at least 3x the population of Cleveland MSA. And it isn't all suburban sprawl--Toronto proper is constantly growing in population, too, and Toronto has more cranes than any other North American city.

Greater Toronto has percentage population growth that rivals Greater Phoenix and Puget Sound, perhaps even approaching that of DFW, despite having worse weather, higher taxes, and higher cost of living than all of them.

I imagine Euclid Avenue could become Cleveland's answer to Yonge Street. The RTA Red Line opened in 1955, only a year after TTC's Line 1 opened. Making both Cleveland and Toronto the only two North American cities that opened new heavy rail systems in the 1950s, while everyone else was building freeways.

Even more impressive was Hopkins Airport being the first airport to get a direct rail connection to Downtown in the entire Western Hemisphere, in 1968.

Why isn't Cleveland growing? It doesn't seem to be any more NIMBY than say, Austin or Seattle. Heck, Cleveland is one of very few American cities with no parking minimums in its entire Downtown.

Here's my humble opinion: Your city can be very YIMBY, but if the economy is poor and the crime high, you'll have stagnant growth.

Conversely, your city can be very NIMBY, but if the economy is good and the crime low, you'll have excellent growth.

[dc_denizen]

Why is Cleveland not growing ?

Bad weather, comparatively
Competition from dozens of other large cities, even within its own state
Ohio has been sending its best and brightest to other states since the 1910s
Legacy racial issues
Not a charming urban built environment outside of a few areas (many nice suburban areas )
Scarce capital investment due to misperception of the city / investors unreasonably wary

[mrnyc]

Originally Posted by dc_denizen

Why is Cleveland not growing ?

Bad weather, comparatively
Competition from dozens of other large cities, even within its own state
Ohio has been sending its best and brightest to other states since the 1910s
Legacy racial issues
Not a charming urban built environment outside of a few areas (many nice suburban areas )
Scarce capital investment due to misperception of the city / investors unreasonably wary

weelllll yeah ok.

so, one hot off the press kickstart solution to counter that is ... uncle joe and the afl-cio to the rescue:



great lakes to get a navy yard -- lorain to be the us navy's fifth repair yard.

fyi lorain is a historic shipbuilding town, best known in that regard as home of the late yankees owner george steinbrenner's old amship yards.

lordstown will also get some of the work.

$2B new shipyard development and 3-4k jobs to start.

the other 4 navy yards have around 10k jobs and are overburdened, so growth and spinoff will be huuugggge.


more:

https://www.morningjournal.com/2022/...ate-in-lorain/
https://www.cleveland19.com/2022/01/...lorain-county/
https://fox8.com/news/proposed-proje...ard-to-lorain/
https://www.bartlettmaritime.com/

[mrnyc]

anybody wanna buy a juvenile detention center campus?

it's the oldest in the usa.

i actually took a tour of it in its last days before the move to the new center and it is indeed a very beautifully made facility.

a shame if it cannot be repurposed -- or at least mothballed until it can be. the microneighborhood around it is intriguing too.

oh well, so it often goes in the old cleve ...


have your ruin porn:
https://architecturalafterlife.com/2...ion-center-us/

and news:
https://neo-trans.blog/2022/02/08/ex...or-sale-again/

[Busy Bee]

Hope its saved. Maybe some Buddhists should make it a monastary.

[edale]

Originally Posted by mrnyc

anybody wanna buy a juvenile detention center campus?

it's the oldest in the usa.

i actually took a tour of it in its last days before the move to the new center and it is indeed a very beautifully made facility.

a shame if it cannot be repurposed -- or at least mothballed until it can be. the microneighborhood around it is intriguing too.

oh well, so it often goes in the old cleve ...

The neighborhood around it appears to be several large public housing complexes, a sprawling community college, a hospital, and freeways...

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cl...!4d-81.6943605

[mrnyc]

^ yep. this is part of the area where they are talking about decking over the innerbelt to reconnect it to the campus neighborhood.

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Hope its saved. Maybe some Buddhists should make it a monastary.

close lol! the city schools bailed out on taking it, but the nearby sisters of charity want to take it over. they are very tied to the area -- i hope they do.

[mrnyc]

progress on circle square artisan development and a great wintery aerial view from university circle.


https://twitter.com/thatsexton/statu...59936%3Fs%3D21

[Zeej]

Originally Posted by IrvineNative

I've never been to Cleveland myself, but to me it's a fascinating city.

I always wonder if Cleveland had never stopped growing, if it would become another Toronto. As recently as 1960, Cleveland MSA had about as many people as Greater Toronto. Now Greater Toronto has at least 3x the population of Cleveland MSA. And it isn't all suburban sprawl--Toronto proper is constantly growing in population, too, and Toronto has more cranes than any other North American city.

The thing about Toronto is that it's the undisputed economic center of its country and has been for a long time. Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver have a much higher percentage of the Canadian population than New York, Los Angeles and Chicago do for the US. Most of Canada's population growth is and has been funneled into those three metro areas for most of its history. Not sure Cleveland could have kept up if it had continued growing because there are so many other viable American cities competing for a slice of the growth pie as well, and many are in Cleveland's vicinity.

[mrnyc]

here is something nice by the cleveland clinic that had a groundbreaking in decemeber -- it will have a meijer grocery store:





The City of Cleveland, Cleveland Clinic, Meijer, Fairfax Renaissance Development Corporation and Fairmount Properties broke ground today on a new grocery market and apartment complex in the Fairfax neighborhood of Cleveland.

Positioned to help revitalize and transform the neighborhood, the project will significantly contribute to creating a healthier community by addressing food insecurity, supporting economic development in the area, and providing a new shopping destination for customers from surrounding neighborhoods.

As part of the $500 million Cleveland Innovation District, the new Fairfax Market mixed-use project will be located on the corner of East 105th Street and Cedar Avenue. The $52.8 million development will include a 40,000-square-foot grocery market opening by Meijer and 196 apartment units.


more:
https://newsroom.clevelandclinic.org...tion-district/

[mrnyc]

the artisan circle square development in university circle looks to be coming along well



sapperdaddy

[pj3000]

Nice! I wish the Pittsburgh market had the demand for residential projects of this size and quality.

[mrnyc]

^ i think the university circle area is booming along because people are trying to take advantage of cleveland clinic growth.


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and speaking of residential -- on the westside -- a nice upper edgewater park infill project





The development at 8400 Lake Ave. could be the first of more to come to convert the 150-plus-year-old industrial district, across the West Shoreway and railroad tracks from upper Edgewater and Lake Erie, into a neighborhood of mid-rise residential and possibly mixed-use developments.


more:
https://neo-trans.blog/2022/02/24/re...-park-housing/

[mrnyc]

and more westside action --

gordon square
waverly & oak development
5506 detroit ave
122 units
bond street group






it should fit well into a very westside clevelandy looking setting


marty15

[mrnyc]

cleveland's southside --

slavic village
5115 at the rising development
jan 18, 2022 --- drone shot w/velodrome in background


more:
https://twitter.com/Brodie76/status/...32169%3Fs%3D20


brodie76

render

[mrnyc]

in major rehab news --


925 euclid -- fka the union trust bldg, fka huntington bldg --
-- now the centennial -- 21 stories -- 1.36M sq ft -- built 1921-24

per march 2022 crains -- filling a need for workforce housing -- downtown mixed use reno wins historic tax credit and will add 1000 people living downtown in moderately priced apts, plus hundreds more working:




The Centennial, in downtown Cleveland, wins $40 million in tax credits for 'transformational' projects


The $465 million revival of one of downtown Cleveland's largest — and most challenging — properties finally is poised to move forward, after winning a whopping $40 million in state tax credits aimed at so-called transformational projects.

The Millennia Cos. landed that prize for the Centennial, its long-anticipated makeover of the vacant Union Trust Building at East Ninth Street and Euclid Avenue. The 1.36 million-square-foot complex has languished for almost a decade, a block-long dead zone in the heart of a reviving central business district

Now, with the promise of the mammoth tax-credit award, Millennia can execute on its vision of filling the space with modestly priced apartments and a 61-room boutique hotel.

A high-end restaurant and the Cleveland Exposition, a museum-like display, will occupy the building's cavernous lobby. Millennia's plans also call for a rooftop event space and retail lining East Ninth, Euclid and Chester Avenue.





the monumental interior




developer plans

[mrnyc]

also downtown -- in fun foodie news an asiatown enterpreneur is redeveloping a building into a big food hall:



Sheng Long Yu's Next Big Move is to Open an Asiatown Food Hall Serving Street Foods from China, Japan and Taiwan

Douglas Trattner
Mar 10, 2022 14:47 PM



Over the last seven years, Sheng Long Yu has made a huge impression on the Cleveland dining scene. During that relatively short span, the longtime owner of Shinto Japanese Steakhouse in Strongsville has opened Kenko Sushi in University Circle and Kent, Dagu Rice Noodle in Asiatown, Ipoke near the Cleveland Clinic, Hell’s Fried Chicken in University Circle and a second Shinto location in Westlake.

For his next big move, Yu hopes to help propel Cleveland’s Asiatown neighborhood into the modern era.

He and his business partners have purchased the former National Tire & Battery property at E. 30th and Payne and plan to convert it to a lively Asian food hall serving the most popular street foods from Japan, China and Taiwan.

“A lot of Asiatown restaurants are pretty much outdated,” Yu explains. “There are a lot of great restaurants and flavors out there, but the problem is there’s nothing very modern and new. We’re trying to bring something new, exciting and more modernized. Compared to cities like Chicago, New York or L.A., our Chinatown needs a lot of work to get it up to speed.”


more on the nice transformation of the property:
https://www.clevescene.com/cleveland...media=AMP+HTML


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in more cle asiatown news -- i heard the popular summer night market will be back -- tba:

https://nightmarketcle.com/

[pj3000]

Cleve is lookin' good

That Centennial redevelopment looks gorgeous.

[mrnyc]

a couple sweet flats cuyahoga riverfront old factory reno developments



1720 columbus rd

more (crains paywall):
https://www.crainscleveland.com/real...icle1-headline





urbanetics_



the foundry - kayaking & boardwalk

more (pp250-ish):
https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/d...01-22-2022.pdf






freethink