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^ That always gets me. And the very tip is nice enough to make you hate the rest of it. Maybe one day....one day.
That's what makes me upset. The spire as it is now is not absolutely terrible. But if the rest of the spire were to look like the very tip of the spire, it would look so much better and more complete.


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One World Trade Center is giving away free tickets to its observatory later this month.

Tickets are usually $32 for adults, but on May 24 you can enjoy sweeping views from atop the city’s highest tower for free between 9 a.m. and 11:30 a.m.
The open house is being hosted by JetBlue, according to the observatory’s website.

All you need to do is head to oneworldobservatory.com and enter your information to receive two free tickets.
The observatory opened nearly a year ago on May 29, 2015.
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Old Posted May 28, 2016, 5:11 AM
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The tower is crowned with a 408-foot (124.4 m) steel spire that is encircled by a three-level communications platform. When measured from the roof slab, which rises to 1,334'8" (406.8 m), the spire is actually 441'4" (134.5 m) tall. However, it rests within a 33' (10.2 m) rooftop well that screens the cooling towers and other equipment.

Michael Stein, a managing director at Schlaich Bergermann, likened the spire's telescoping geometries to those of a tree. it rises from a wide base, eighteen feet (5.4 m) in diameter, gradually tapers, and culminates in a steel and glass beacon. Along its length, the spire is punctuated with circular platforms that allow maintenance access. it is anchored to the roof with four sets of paired cables made of aramid, a plastic much lighter and stronger than steel, which allows radiou waves to be transmitted without interruption

In addition to the spire's symbolic importance, it has the practical function of housing broadcasting equipment that supports radio, television, and data communications. For New York, the nation's largest media market, this broadcast infrastructure is vital, replacing the facilities that were lost on September 11. Currently, most major broadcasters operate transmission facilities at the Empire State Building, which has a 200-foot (61 m) broadcast tower, and has been operating as a radio transmitter since 1930. One World Trade Center's spire, twice as tall, has enough space for every station in the market to install transmitters, according to Durst Broadcasting, which runs the facility.

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SOM intended to sheathe the spire in a fiberglass enclosure called a radome. They conceived of the radome as a work of art, to be made of interlocking triangles, which would complete the tower, providing the visual heft that would allow it to be seen from a greater distance. Sculptor Kenneth Snelson, known for his exquisitely balanced tensile sculptures, worked on its aesthetics. Schlaich Bergermann engineered both the spire and the radome. Eventually, they changed the radome's structure from an enclosure made from many parts to one of fewer, but much larger, forty-foot-long (12 m) segments, which would be more economical.

"We would have designed the spire differently if we knew it was not going to be enclosed," Michael Stein, a managing director at Schlaich Bergermann, said. "We designed it to optimize function and minimize fabrication costs. It has [an] industrial look now, with all its trusses, diagonals, and platforms exposed, which were intended to be covered by a beautifully designed radome. You could say the building's masterpiece was that enclosure."
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3.3 Million Were Expected at Trade Center Attraction; a Million Haven’t Shown Up

By CHARLES V. BAGLI
MAY 27, 2016


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When the observatory complex opened last year on the top three floors of the new Lower Manhattan building, its operator, Legends, predicted that it would draw 3.3 million visitors annually.

That was optimistic by a million.

This week, the video wall in the Global Welcome Center, which displays a running tally of visitors, put the total number at just 2.3 million since the observatory opened on May 29, 2015.

..With the standard ticket price set at $32, the shortfall in attendance is significant for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the building, together with the Durst Organization. The authority, which has spent tens of billions of dollars rebuilding the trade center, hoped the observatory would be a major revenue generator.

..Legends and the authority insist that the observatory is a success, although they both refuse to release any rent or revenue numbers for the publicly owned property, citing a confidentiality agreement. They say the observatory hit its numbers for 2015.

“Between revenue numbers and customer reviews, we couldn’t be more happy,” said Shervin Mirhashemi, president of Legends, which is owned by the New York Yankees and the Dallas Cowboys. “We look at our attraction as a premium experience.”

Still, the National September 11 Memorial and Museum attracted 2.9 million visitors over the past year, 600,000 more than One World Observatory.
Observatories have become a 21st-century craze, inspired in part by the profit-making operation at one of the world’s biggest tourist attractions: the Empire State Building, whose two observatories are a veritable cash machine, drawing more than 4 million tourists annually and producing nearly 40 percent of the tower’s total revenue in 2015 and $82 million in cash after expenses.

Top of the Rock, the observation deck at Rockefeller Center, lures 2 million visitors a year.

Both attractions raised their prices to match One World Observatory’s when that venue opened.

...Mr. Mirhashemi said that Legends was still building its business at the trade center. He said the company expected to draw 2.5 million tourists in 2016, and eventually, more than 3 million annually.

In explaining the slowdown so far this year, Mr. Mirhashemi said that tourism typically dipped between January and May but came roaring back in the summer.

But in the first quarter of 2016, the Empire State Building’s observatories saw a 15.6 percent increase in attendance over the same period a year earlier, according to S.E.C. filings.

...Barry Tenenbaum, president of New York City Vacation Packages, a tourism company, said the observatory’s problems might be rooted in Legends’ failure to court tour operators, which often buy tickets in bulk, at a significant discount.

Tourists from other countries often purchase a package with tickets from museums and other attractions before they land in New York. The standard package for Mr. Tenenbaum’s company includes admission to either the Empire State Building or Top of the Rock, but not to One World Observatory.

“Legends really doesn’t have a lot of experience in the tourism market,” Mr. Tenenbaum said. “I would like to think that’s why their volume is not up to snuff. I think they’re going after the corporate market as much as the tourist market.”

Mr. Mirhashemi said that Legends was working with tour operators, “but on a very selective basis.”

Soon visitors will have even more choices. On the West Side of Manhattan, a new competitor at 30 Hudson Yards, which claims it will have the highest outdoor deck, on the 89th floor, is scheduled to open in 2019, with another at 1 Vanderbilt, next to Grand Central Terminal, to follow.

Analysts have wondered how many observatories are too many in New York.

But some people think the sky is the limit. “The city could definitely accommodate three, if not more, observatories,” said Andrew Luan, owner of New York Tour1, a guided-tour operator.
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They were overconfident just by simply returning with an observatory that would be enough to win people back. Fact of the matter is, people want their outdoor observatory back too. They are going to have to do some retooling and some clever engineering and incorporate some kind of roof-top observatory into the works eventually. Either way they have to at minimum, new management would be a great start...
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They were overconfident just by simply returning with an observatory that would be enough to win people back. Fact of the matter is, people want their outdoor observatory back too. They are going to have to do some retooling and some clever engineering and incorporate some kind of roof-top observatory into the works eventually. Either way they have to at minimum, new management would be a great start...

They're doing pretty good. It's still in relatively new and there is the added presence of the WTC memorial which competes for tourists. Also, not everone is at ease with going up there just yet (as opposed to the ESB and Rock decks which didnt have terrorists attacks). I say the article is too early, just like those articles that complain about the Hudson Yards station not hitting its user goals yet. Everyone just needs to relax and let time do its thing.

As far as outdoor decks go, they're already doing better than Top of the Rock, so I dont see that as an issue. The indoor view was better at the original complex anyway.
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I was lucky enough to be passing by 1WTC the other day - May 18th actually - and took a terrible video of a test of the LED's on the tower base. I must admit, seeing it in person made me hate them a little less.

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My latest video which shows One World Trade Center from Breezy Point, Queens. BY QUEENSNY121:

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What I still can't for the life of me understand is why the CTBUH caved and decided to count the spire in the overall height when its stands uncompleted, probably permanently. The whole point of counting a spire in overall building height centers on it being an architectural extension of the tower. The sole architectural aspect of WTC1's spire -the radome- was discarded. There fore it cannot possibly be counted towards the overall height. By CTBUH's seriously flawed logic, the original north tower was 1730 ft and the Sears tower is 1729 feet. And both of those HAD radomes. CTBUH has forever lost any shred of respect from me.
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