SFU/Burnaby Mtn Gondola | Proposed - Page 51

Sheba · #**1001** Posted **Jul 7, 2022, 3:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by FarmerHaight

I would hope they are concerned about the riders' comfort, not the ability of the life to operate in winter conditions. And I think the other consideration would be wind?

First of all, the people riding the gondola will have already walked outside to the train or bus stop and possibly waited there for 10 or 15 minutes, so they should be dressed for the elements. Secondly, there are gondolas and chairlifts all over Europe with heated seats, so gondolas can be quite comfortable even on cold days.

As for the wind, was there anything in the feasibility study about how many days on average might be lost to wind versus what is already lost to slippery driving conditions?

From the Daily Hive article linked above (and I've read this info before)

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The gondola will offer a peak hour capacity of 3,000 passengers per hour per direction, with 30 passenger capacity cabins departing as frequently as every minute.

It will use a tri-cable system, known as 3S, similar to Whistler Blackcomb’s Peak to Peak Gondola, for enhanced speed, safety, and redundancy. Using 3S, the gondola will still be able to operate safely in wind conditions of up to 100 km/hr.

Artistic rendering of the SFU Burnaby Mountain gondola terminal station. (SFU)

Coldrsx · #**1002** Posted **Jul 7, 2022, 3:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by XB70 Valkyrie

Seems that it's approved now, hurray!

From DailyHive:

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/sfu-...ear-priorities

Amazing stuff.

Can't wait to see this.

jollyburger · #**1003** Posted **Jul 7, 2022, 3:25 AM**

They should make a 150-200 foot observation tower and make some money hauling tourists up to the mountain.

Sheba · #**1004** Posted **Aug 23, 2022, 7:35 PM**

Sort of related - Grouse Mountain set to break ground on new gondola

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Grouse Mountain says it will be breaking ground on a long-awaited upgrade to its lift system next month, with construction of a new gondola set to begin on Friday, Sept. 9.

The new lift will replace the aging Blue Skyride aerial tram, which opened in 1966. The 56-year-old tram, one of the oldest still operating in B.C., was only being used by staff for service and maintenance and has rarely carried visitors up the mountain in the past several years.

The Red Skyride, which opened in 1976 and can carry 100 people up the mountain at a time, will remain fully operational while construction on the new gondola is carried out. It offloads on the west side of the upper chalet, while the new lift system will eventually offload to the east.

Northland Properties Group, a Vancouver-based, family-owned company that purchased the resort in early 2020, is funding the entire project.

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The resort says the new lift system will include 13 towers and 27 eight-person gondola cabins.

Once completed, the North Vancouver resort will be back to just above its original capacity when the blue and red Skyrides were both fully operational.

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According to its current timeline, Grouse Mountain says the new gondola should be up and running for the public by spring 2024.

Mac Write · #**1005** Posted **Aug 23, 2022, 9:03 PM**

I really wish they had or can still do a final fan trip of the blue gondola so it's filmed for the history books. Ironically the blue gondola is actually fully wheel chair accessible due to being level with the main plaza area at base station.

madog222 · #**1006** Posted **Sep 20, 2022, 1:04 AM**

Translink is looking for design concepts for the lower station integration.

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TransLink is seeking to retain a Contractor to develop and evaluate Urban Design Concepts for an integrated Production Way-University Mobility Hub (“Mobility Hub”) focused near the future Burnaby Mountain Gondola (BMG) Lower Terminal located in the vicinity of the existing Production Way-University SkyTrain Station and bus exchange, as defined in the Project Study Area.

https://service.ariba.com/Discovery....id=14117149#b0

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**1007** Posted **Sep 20, 2022, 7:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by madog222

Translink is looking for design concepts for the lower station integration.

https://service.ariba.com/Discovery....id=14117149#b0

good to see this at least progressing a little bit. hopefully it gets funded to get built.

this project should have been done years ago. its one of those no-brainer type projects. didn't the first study get released in like 2008 or something? stupid it hasn't been built already.

madog222 · #**1008** Posted **Dec 7, 2022, 8:45 AM**

Another little tidbit.

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Through this Request for Proposal (RFP), TransLink is seeking to retain the services of an Owner’s Engineer (OE) team to develop the reference concept design (RCD) and to support project development of the Burnaby Mountain Gondola (BMG) Project (“Project”), required to develop cost estimate and to support the Burnaby Mountain Gondola Project Business Case that TransLink is preparing.

http://discovery.ariba.com/rfx/14815062
Link fixed!

chowhou · #**1009** Posted **Dec 7, 2022, 10:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by madog222

Another little tidbit.

https://service.ariba.com/Discovery....awssk=dtGMHOyg

Broken link, takes me to the general Ariba site.

madog222 · #**1010** Posted **Jan 25, 2023, 6:37 AM**

We should seen designs this year.

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Development of an interim business case is now underway. Most of the technical work will occur in 2023, including conceptual design, costing, and funding and delivery model assessments. Engagement with First Nations will continue to develop a Full Business Case process, with public engagement anticipated in 2023. The Gondola project is targeted for implementation (funding, design and construction) in the first phase of 10YP.

https://www.translink.ca/-/media/tra...g_jan_2023.pdf

madog222 · #**1011** Posted **Apr 28, 2023, 6:43 AM**

Infrastructure BC has anticipated start of construction for 2026 in their Spring 2023 brochure.

https://www.infrastructurebc.com/wp2...s-Brochure.pdf

chowhou · #**1012** Posted **Apr 28, 2023, 7:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by madog222

Infrastructure BC has anticipated start of construction for 2026 in their Spring 2023 brochure.

https://www.infrastructurebc.com/wp2...s-Brochure.pdf

2026 is surprisingly far out. Maybe the capital is being focused on the SLS right now, but I would have imagined this to be a relatively cheap and quick project (by Translink standards).

madog222 · #**1013** Posted **Apr 28, 2023, 8:11 AM**

They're working on the business case this year including more public consolation, it sounds like that won't be done until next year. Then budget and have it approved by the Mayor's Council. Procurement in 2025 with Doppelmayr or Leitner doing the final detailed design. Plus fit in property acquisition in there.

The cost isn't an issue. Translink's most recent estimate is $210M, less than they are spending on the new 40' trolley bus fleet and ~2/3 the cost of the new Skytrain OMC 4.

fredinno · #**1014** Posted **Apr 28, 2023, 9:58 AM**

Is the idea of a secondary station at Forest Grove dead?

Metro-One · #**1015** Posted **Apr 28, 2023, 11:43 AM**

Man there has to be a loooot of bullshit in this process to take that long given how much has already been done. Like, how much more is there really to consult? The color of the tiles on the floor?

roger1818 · #**1016** Posted **Apr 28, 2023, 1:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Metro-One

Man there has to be a loooot of bullshit in this process to take that long given how much has already been done. Like, how much more is there really to consult? The color of the tiles on the floor?

I suspect most of the design work so far was at a very high level to determine the feasibility. They won’t go to the expense of a detailed design until the project has been approved and has funding. That detailed design needs to be complete before construction can begin. They aren’t building a bookcase, where you can make up the design as you go.

Metro-One · #**1017** Posted **Apr 28, 2023, 2:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by roger1818

I suspect most of the design work so far was at a very high level to determine the feasibility. They won’t go to the expense of a detailed design until the project has been approved and has funding. That detailed design needs to be complete before construction can begin. They aren’t building a bookcase, where you can make up the design as you go.

They are also not building a subway or highway with numerous interchanges and structures.

This is a gondola… Two station houses, 3 or 4 towers. It shouldn’t take another three years to get from where we are now.

roger1818 · #**1018** Posted **Apr 28, 2023, 2:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by Metro-One

They are also not building a subway or highway with numerous interchanges and structures.

This is a gondola… Two station houses, 3 or 4 towers. It shouldn’t take another three years to get from where we are now.

I would argue that a detailed geological study and engineering design of the support towers is far more important than it is for a subway. You don’t want a tower to fall over during a wind storm.

jollyburger · #**1019** Posted **Apr 28, 2023, 4:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by roger1818

I would argue that a detailed geological study and engineering design of the support towers is far more important than it is for a subway. You don’t want a tower to fall over during a wind storm.

Yeah a subway tunnel collapsing is nothing. You win argument.

roger1818 · #**1020** Posted **Apr 28, 2023, 5:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by jollyburger

Yeah a subway tunnel collapsing is nothing. You win argument.

LOL While you certainly don’t want a tunnel to collapse, an arch is inherently a very strong structure. The biggest risk of collapse of a tunnel is during construction, before the lining is complete.