Dallas: Capitol of America's Heartland?

[Dariusb]

https://www.city-journal.org/dallas-fort-worth
Warning: very long article.

[DCReid]

Originally Posted by Dariusb

https://www.city-journal.org/dallas-fort-worth
Warning: very long article.

I don't think it is not - Chicago still is. Reads like an business ad in Fortune magazine.

[Manitopiaaa]

For me:

• Atlanta is the Capital of the South and Black America
• Boston is the Capital of New England
• Chicago is the Capital of the Midwest
• Dallas is the Capital of the Great Plains
• Denver is the Capital of the Mountain Station
• Detroit is the Capital of Arab America
• Houston is the Capital of the Gulf Coast
• Los Angeles is the Capital of the West Coast and Hispanic America
• Miami is the Capital of the Caribbean
• New York is the Capital of the Northeast and Jewish America
• Phoenix is the Capital of the Southwest
• San Francisco is the Capital of Asian America and LGBT America
• Seattle is the Capital of the Pacific Northwest
• Washington is the Actual Capital

I consider the Heartland far more expansive than the Great Plains, so I don't agree with the article. I think Chicago is the Capital of the Heartland, in that the Midwest is far bigger than the Great Plains, and both are considered "Heartland" regions.

[iheartthed]

I don't really think of Dallas as being located in the heartland.

Also, lol @ "the Big D".

[Steely Dan]

Dallas is too far south and Chicago is too far north.

Would've been interesting if St. Louis had become the big interior juggernaut, as was once expected prior to the civil.war.

Kinda reminds of this parallelogram of the 4 major de facto capitals of the northeast, southeast, midwest and south central.



The only thing that really disrupts this is that Dallas has a true same size rival (Houston) only 200 miles to its south. The other three are all the unchallenged alphas of their respective zones.

[iheartthed]

^Chicago seems to be core heartland. Ohio tends to proclaim itself king of the heartland, but I can see an argument for Chicago.

[The North One]

What even is America's heartland? Other than another stupid obscure patronizing term that gets thrown around by lazy media.

It's insane to me that Dallas metro is that big, it looks nowhere near that size. I guess it makes more sense though when you consider that it's population is combined with Fort Worth. I always forget that Dallas even exists, and the only time I think of it is when it's brought up here.

[bilbao58]

Originally Posted by The North One

I always forget that Dallas even exists...

Believe me. At any given moment tens of millions of Texans are trying to do the same.

[Chef]

The plains don't have a capital. Depending on where you are the most important city may be Dallas, Denver, Kansas City or Minneapolis. If you use a broader definition of Heartland it is clearly Chicago.

[JManc]

Originally Posted by bilbao58

Believe me. At any given moment tens of millions of Texans are trying to do the same.

Dallas. The biggest city in Oklahoma.

[mrnyc]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

^Chicago seems to be core heartland. Ohio tends to proclaim itself king of the heartland, but I can see an argument for Chicago.

that's funny you say "i can see" and kind of kneejerk really because illinois is a one horse state, yet actually, by sight, ohio is obviously just that, being the literal shape of a heart, in the exact position of the heart on the body of the usa, and being as mixed politically and urban, suburban and rural a state as there could be.

[liat91]

Originally Posted by Manitopiaaa

For me:

• Atlanta is the Capital of the South and Black America
• Boston is the Capital of New England
• Chicago is the Capital of the Midwest
• Dallas is the Capital of the Great Plains
• Denver is the Capital of the Mountain Station
• Detroit is the Capital of Arab America
• Houston is the Capital of the Gulf Coast
• Los Angeles is the Capital of the West Coast and Hispanic America
• Miami is the Capital of the Caribbean
• New York is the Capital of the Northeast and Jewish America
• Phoenix is the Capital of the Southwest
• San Francisco is the Capital of Asian America and LGBT America
• Seattle is the Capital of the Pacific Northwest
• Washington is the Actual Capital

I consider the Heartland far more expansive than the Great Plains, so I don't agree with the article. I think Chicago is the Capital of the Heartland, in that the Midwest is far bigger than the Great Plains, and both are considered "Heartland" regions.

Good descriptions, though I might put Miami is the king of not just the Caribbean but all of Latin America(hispanic+).

[dktshb]

When I think of America's heartland I think Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska South Dakota and North Dakota and maybe Iowa. As far as TX certainly the panhandle and maybe the northern parts just north of Dallas. Eastern parts of New Mexico Colorado, Wyoming and Montana too. I would probably think of Kansas City to sort of be the the Capitol of America's heartland?

[Dariusb]

Originally Posted by mrnyc

that's funny you say "i can see" and kind of kneejerk really because illinois is a one horse state, yet actually, by sight, ohio is obviously just that, being the literal shape of a heart, in the exact position of the heart on the body of the usa, and being as mixed politically and urban, suburban and rural a state as there could be.

Interesting description of the state of Ohio and a heart. I never thought of it that way.

[R1070]

I think of the Midwest as more of the "Heartland" and Chicago fits that description better.

Also, Dallas can't be the Capital of the Great Plains. We are hours east of the Great Plains. Dallas sits on the far western edge of the Gulf Coastal Plain where it transitions to the North Central Plains of Texas. You have to go farther west past Abilene to get to the Great Plains which is a region much higher in altitude,with sparse vegetation, a drier climate and so on.

[mrnyc]

Originally Posted by Dariusb

Interesting description of the state of Ohio and a heart. I never thought of it that way.

yes, but no worries i think its common that outsiders miss some of those aspects of the state.

that's also why the ohio used to pimp itself as 'the heart of it all' in its pr press for awhile.

[mrnyc]

Originally Posted by Manitopiaaa

For me:

• Atlanta is the Capital of the South and Black America
• Boston is the Capital of New England
• Chicago is the Capital of the Midwest
• Dallas is the Capital of the Great Plains
• Denver is the Capital of the Mountain Station
• Detroit is the Capital of Arab America
• Houston is the Capital of the Gulf Coast
• Los Angeles is the Capital of the West Coast and Hispanic America
• Miami is the Capital of the Caribbean
• New York is the Capital of the Northeast and Jewish America World
• Phoenix is the Capital of the Southwest
• San Francisco is the Capital of Asian America and LGBT America
• Seattle is the Capital of the Pacific Northwest
• Washington is the Actual Capital

I consider the Heartland far more expansive than the Great Plains, so I don't agree with the article. I think Chicago is the Capital of the Heartland, in that the Midwest is far bigger than the Great Plains, and both are considered "Heartland" regions.

edited for clarity

[badrunner]

Texas is not the heartland, it's a coastal border state that was once part of another country.

The heartland is the interior of the country - the agricultural heart of the Mississippi river and its tributaries.

[isaidso]

When someone says US heartland I think of Missouri.... maybe Kansas. Split the difference and say it's Kansas City.

[DetroitSky]

When I think of the heartland I think of the Great Plains states - Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, the Dakotas, Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas and Missouri. So that’d make Chicago the capital. I’ve never in my life heard that term and thought of Texas. It’s always seemed to be a word used to describe the Midwest - specifically the mainly agricultural, flat, prairie land states.