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Old Posted Apr 30, 2022, 10:55 PM
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I just love the contrast between the white versus black. Looks so good in this particular urban setting.






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Old Posted May 1, 2022, 2:08 AM
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146 West Erie looks completely disgusting to me. It's not going to age well at all. Can't win them all I guess.
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Some certainly do (eg. 860-880 N Lakeshore Drive). But probably most don't...
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Started foundation construction exactly 3 years ago almost 18 months after it received its first permits

“Luckily all of the buyers really want to be in this building and have been patient,” Collazo told Curbed with regards to the slow start to construction. The Bentham replaces the low-rise former Erie-LaSalle Body Shop structure, which was demolished in early 2017. Provided work moves forward as planned, the development should start welcoming residents to its lower floors units in about 16 months, said Collazo."
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Old Posted May 1, 2022, 11:58 AM
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146 West Erie looks completely disgusting to me. It's not going to age well at all. Can't win them all I guess.
Ya I agree, esp with the white right off of such a busy street Lasalle. See the K2 for how white looks next to busy roads after 5 years.
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Old Posted May 1, 2022, 12:00 PM
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Oh happy days. Going to stop by the grocery store later to pick up my bananas.
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supertall???

no, the current plan for that piece of land is a ~35 floor/500+ foot office tower.
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supertall???

no, the current plan for that piece of land is a ~35 floor/500+ foot office tower.
As previously mentioned the CNA building/151 Franklin is a recent 36 ft floor office at 568 ft so it would likely be similar in height to that.
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Old Posted May 1, 2022, 4:59 PM
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The Gild is still too short for its location, but it actually came out really good. Excited to see the retail thats going to be delivered there, it's a high foot traffic area.

Huh? It looks awful. The rendering, on the other hand, looked pretty decent. What could have been:

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Some certainly do (eg. 860-880 N Lakeshore Drive). But probably most don't...
Well, it's not a simple yes or no answer. The 1920s highrises don't have internal parking for the most part.

The mid-century complexes do have parking. Often the parking is partially underground - 1/2 story or 1 whole story below grade - and then goes up a few stories above grade as well. I believe they pushed the podiums slightly below grade so they would not loom over the flats and courtyard buildings on adjacent streets. A lot of those complexes were built on larger lots (they had to be, to get enough FAR for a highrise) so they had the room to separate the towers from the podiums and have room left over for green space, taxi dropoff/porte cochere, etc.

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There’s SO much one story retail on broadway in Frankenstein 1910s buildings that have been refaced like 8 times by now. Glad there’s some residential conversion happening on broadway, but that strip needs like 5 more optima-type developments
There's definitely room for improvement on Broadway, but there's a pretty great tapestry of long-time independent businesses - bars, shops, restaurants - that can stay there because of the old depreciated real estate. All those one-story buildings are owned by landlords who care more about cash flow than about getting a national credit tenant, so they're happy to rent to anyone who wants to set up there including immigrants and young entrepreneurs.

Those indie businesses help make the neighborhood one of the most desirable and walkable in the city. Too much redevelopment will kill the street life. The best case scenario is that you end up with a lot of chains, worst case is that you end up with a ton of vacant retail space sucking the life out of the neighborhood.
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...There's definitely room for improvement on Broadway, but there's a pretty great tapestry of long-time independent businesses - bars, shops, restaurants - that can stay there because of the old depreciated real estate. All those one-story buildings are owned by landlords who care more about cash flow than about getting a national credit tenant, so they're happy to rent to anyone who wants to set up there including immigrants and young entrepreneurs.

Those indie businesses help make the neighborhood one of the most desirable and walkable in the city. Too much redevelopment will kill the street life. The best case scenario is that you end up with a lot of chains, worst case is that you end up with a ton of vacant retail space sucking the life out of the neighborhood.
So much this! As I was walking down Halsted and Broadway this weekend I was very much thinking about this. Across from the Optima building there is a one story strip of shops that I think has been fully rented since I have lived in Lakeview. 32 years. The building is nothing to look at but small businesses have filled it and contributed to the vibrancy of the neighborhood. Lakeview is full of these smaller buildings, most topping out at 3 or 4 stories, that really make for great neighborhood. When the new buildings are built the retail so often sits empty, too expensive for small businesses.
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Ya I agree, esp with the white right off of such a busy street Lasalle. See the K2 for how white looks next to busy roads after 5 years.
Yup. Bentham AKA 146 Erie AKA Margaux is a dud.

At least the skip is coming down and we'll finally get the sidewalk back after all of those years...
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1400 S Wabash from the L


If you're quick (I wasn't quick enough), it's possible to get a nice shot of 1000M from the L as well. Also, no picture, but the Harold Ickes development is progressing nicely.
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Wasn't sure whether to post this here, city developments or Halsted Point...

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...rfront-project

May 03, 2022 04:58 PM 13 MINUTES AGO
Goose Island apartment developer eyes another massive riverfront project
Onni Group is finalizing a deal to buy a property along the north end of the Bally's proposed casino site, where the developer could potentially build more than 1,000 apartments.



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The Canadian developer planning to build almost 2,700 apartments on the southern tip of Goose Island has a deal to buy another big development site a block away, likely teeing up what could be well north of 1,000 more residential units along the North Branch of the Chicago River.

Onni Group is finalizing a deal to buy the 7-acre property at 700 W. Chicago Ave. from a joint venture of Irving, Tx.-based Nexstar and Chicago developer Riverside Investment & Development, according to sources close to the agreement. Financial terms of the deal are not clear, but people familiar with Onni's plans said the Vancouver, B.C.-based developer would likely transform the property at the northeast corner of Chicago Avenue and Halsted Street with a residential project. The site is immediately north of the land where gambling giant Bally's could win the right to build the city's first casino, and sits just south the site where Onni is poised to build a 2.7 million-square-foot development on Goose Island, dubbed Halsted Point.
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Onni could potentially develop a project as large as 1.5 million square feet on the site, based on the property's zoning, a size that could accommodate more than 1,000 apartments.

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Onni is poised to take control of a Chicago Avenue site that was slated to be redeveloped before the pandemic. Riverside and the property's longtime owner, Tribune Media, won City Council approval in 2018 to demolish a vacant 115,000-square-foot industrial building on the site and build a four-tower office and residential complex. That was part of the vision for a larger megaproject known as the River District
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Bally's has said it would buy the Freedom Center property from Nexstar if its bid is selected and that it would use the 700 W. Chicago property—a former Tribune advertising insertion plant that ceased operations in 2012—as a temporary casino while Bally's built its permanent one. That would delay Onni's planned redevelopment of the site, though it's unclear how that would impact the pending sale of the property to Onni
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Old Posted May 3, 2022, 10:28 PM
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Looks like we'll need to make another mega-development thread soon
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Old Posted May 3, 2022, 11:05 PM
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I'm so glad we're taking our waterfront back. looking at that picture and seeing the old tribune sight and a bunch of industry that will all soon be redeveloped is great. Can't wait for the riverwlak extension
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I'm so glad we're taking our waterfront back. looking at that picture and seeing the old tribune sight and a bunch of industry that will all soon be redeveloped is great. Can't wait for the riverwlak extension
Yep - Totally agree. The big thing I would love the city to work on is improving the pedestrian experience linking areas to the West and East of the River. I live near Fullerton and Western, and the pedestrian experience getting across the river is horrible. Granted I'm a bit north of all of this (Lincoln Yards + this), but one can suspect this will continue to catalyze north along the River to Fullerton eventually. The 606 train extension is a good start, but hopefully we can get more.
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Reminds me a little of the transition of our last neighborhood in NYC - Long Island City, Queens. Along the river was very industrial for decades upon decades. Full of warehouses and other industrial uses. A few condo towers were built around 20 years ago, but not long after..1 developer (TFC) came in (who was our landlord) and bought a bunch of land and built a handful of high rises first. Very dense but in a manageable way and actually very nice. We really loved living there. They also put a super nice park on the riverfront there that is very popular (amazing views of Manhattan). They purchased more land not long ago on the other side of the area and have built or are building another 1100+ units right now with another handful of high rises. Complete and utter transformation of that area from industrial that didn't look that much different than Goose Island and that whole industrial area into some really nice mixed use area.

The entire waterfront used to be like in this picture to the right of the few high rises. They transformed it into looking like this. And further south on the same road they have been building a handful of high rises too.


What Onni is about to do for Halsted Point and now potentially 1000+ more units here kind of reminds me of the waterfront transformation of the above. Hopefully they can pull it off and build some really nice green spaces along the river next to these high rises.
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