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Old Posted Aug 17, 2022, 12:27 AM
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will the fins be lit up at night?
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It looks to stubby ������
Because he's such a chubby boy.

That's the problem with office towers today, they all have to be obese to be attractive to tenants.
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2022, 3:19 AM
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will the fins be lit up at night?
It better be (and I think it will) - especially since the setbacks provide convenient places to mount the lighting. Salesforce SF has the entire crown as an LED screen that displays artwork so SalesForce I think is very pro lighting.

https://sf-towertopart.com/

Also the lobby is supposed to have video screens I think (similar to the SF lobby as well.)

See https://www.333wolfpoint.com/gallery/ for pics. I'm really looking forward to this but haven't seen too many details about it.

Salesforce SF video wall https://archinect.com/news/article/1...bscura-digital
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2022, 4:23 PM
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Will the fins on the glazing be installed all the way down? or only the upper floors? I'm not too hopeful about the larger ones being illuminated given that east's never were and are very similar, hope to be proved wrong! would love to see them be able to change color and match the rest of the city on special dates or give a little show like the new one atop sears
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2022, 6:12 PM
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That's the problem with office towers today, they all have to be obese to be attractive to tenants.
that's not really a new development in chicago.

the chunky office tower has been the default program in this town since the '50s.


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Old Posted Aug 17, 2022, 7:54 PM
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Their current placement of the fins matches renders of them only being on the top 10 floors or so. So I'm pretty confident they will not be going lower than that.

WPE is a fully residential building while WPS is fully commercial. There aren't many residential buildings that have lighting programs that I can think of so I don't think it's a good litmus test. Salesforce being a commercial entity will want their name on the building attractively displayed at night. Also this dusk render appears to show it illuminated (https://www.hines.com/properties/sal...-south-chicago), but I'm not sure about the color lighting. But I'd be shocked if it wasn't part of the city's coordinated lighting program given Salesforce's elaborate lighting on their San Francisco tower and the prominent location of this tower here.



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Will the fins on the glazing be installed all the way down? or only the upper floors? I'm not too hopeful about the larger ones being illuminated given that east's never were and are very similar, hope to be proved wrong! would love to see them be able to change color and match the rest of the city on special dates or give a little show like the new one atop sears

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Old Posted Aug 18, 2022, 1:05 AM
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Also, does it feel like they sed a fair bit of the setbacks originally planned for the front? looks like 3/4 instead of the 5/6 rendered on the hines site.

https://www.hines.com/properties/sal...-south-chicago
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2022, 3:25 PM
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^ I think it's still too early to make that conclusion. The setbacks are pretty subtle even in the renderings so until the glass is up I don't think we can say if the design changed a bit.
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that's not really a new development in chicago.

the chunky office tower has been the default program in this town since the '50s.
Longer than that... the quarter-block office towers from the 1910s and 1920s with light courts were seen as pretty chunky too, especially compared to NYC's towers from that era which were less boxy and usually had more of a wedding cake form (Woolworth, etc).

When NYC did get a chonky Chicago-style tower - the Equitable Building, designed by a Chicago architect - everyone lost their sh*t and they reformed the zoning code to mandate wedding-cake design.
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Longer than that... the quarter-block office towers from the 1910s and 1920s with light courts were seen as pretty chunky too, especially compared to NYC's towers from that era which were less boxy and usually had more of a wedding cake form (Woolworth, etc).

When NYC did get a chonky Chicago-style tower - the Equitable Building, designed by a Chicago architect - everyone lost their sh*t and they reformed the zoning code to mandate wedding-cake design.
The 1800s actually. The foreign journalists back then often said, “Wow, those are some chonky office buildings.”



William Archer, America To-Day, 1900


Probably predates the skyscraper itself even. In the 1870s, there’s discussion of the unusual size and extent of the warehouses.



Sir John Leng, America in 1876, 1877

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I don't know why, but it warms my heart to know that "lanky" has not only been around a while, but it was worthy of a formal periodical.
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Longer than that... the quarter-block office towers from the 1910s and 1920s with light courts were seen as pretty chunky too
Right, the relatively large block size of downtown Chicago has long led to pretty beefy buildings of all heights, but when I was talking about office "towers", I meant buildings over 500' tall (my apologies for not being more clear), and all of chicago's pre-war 500+ footers have some form of tapering massing as they rise.

The Prudential building was really the first "big" office tower in chicago (ie. >500') to completely embrace the MCM aesthetic of the big fat wide box-tower, a very basic and economical form repeated countless times (with different curtain wall dressing) over the past 7 decades.
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2022, 1:24 AM
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For any that haven't taken this walk, this is an incredible showcase of the confluence and way to experience this 'new' part of the city. Even better at night.

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could have been my eyes deceiving me but it looks like they were testing the crown lighting on the west side of the building they have made quite a bit of progress with the scalloped panels covering the mechanical penthouse... I took a photo on my phone but it came out not great... anyone else see the top tonight around sundown?

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I'm pretty sure that's just the sunset/twilight from the west reflecting on the building.

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could have been my eyes deceiving me but it looks like they were testing the crown lighting on the west side of the building they have made quite a bit of progress with the scalloped panels covering the mechanical penthouse... I took a photo on my phone but it came out not great... anyone else see the top tonight around sundown?

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copying my 354 N Union post here because it seems it's just the white/light metallic surface of the scalloped panels

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Old Posted Aug 25, 2022, 7:41 AM
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Anyone know if the Salesforce signage will be on both east and west side of the crown? Or they just allowed one of them?
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2022, 7:55 AM
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was at the federal building yesterday, glass almost finished coming from North and this tower is looking good. Let's hope they have LEDs on the crown... Looks massive

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