CHICAGO | Highrise Projects & Construction, v7

[TWeb]

Originally Posted by nomarandlee

First time writing to a Senator in my life. His reasoning on this is lazy at best.

I wrote to him a couple months ago when Preservation Chicago first highlighted the urgent endangered status of both buildings. The day of his Sun-Times letter publication I finally received an email response that was the stereotypical "thanks for contacting me, I value your opinion". I must be naive because I was geniunely surprised to see that he was not just indifferent to this but full on fighting on behalf of the GSA for their unjustifiable destruction.

[Jibba]

Originally Posted by TWeb

I wrote to him a couple months ago when Preservation Chicago first highlighted the urgent endangered status of both buildings. The day of his Sun-Times letter publication I finally received an email response that was the stereotypical "thanks for contacting me, I value your opinion". I must be naive because I was geniunely surprised to see that he was not just indifferent to this but full on fighting on behalf of the GSA for their unjustifiable destruction.

I think writing to lawmakers is valuable (especially physical letters), but only if it reaches the critical level where it appears to represent a non-insignificant portion of someone's constituency. I think a good amount of people have to contact whoever about the same thing, whereby you have a collective action problem. All those online petition sites tried to get around that problem with using an internet platform -- you get an increase in the visibility of a particular issue among like-minded people, so it seems to solve the problem in that way. However, the energy required to participate is too low, so they proliferate too much, tanking the value of the individual petitions and creating a perception that the medium is inconsequential. I'm sure the energy equals out either way; too few people expending a good amount to write in or too many people expending little to click a button.

[BruceP]

Originally Posted by Jibba

I think writing to lawmakers is valuable (especially physical letters), but only if it reaches the critical level where it appears to represent a non-insignificant portion of someone's constituency. I think a good amount of people have to contact whoever about the same thing, whereby you have a collective action problem. All those online petition sites tried to get around that problem with using an internet platform -- you get an increase in the visibility of a particular issue among like-minded people, so it seems to solve the problem in that way. However, the energy required to participate is too low, so they proliferate too much, tanking the value of the individual petitions and creating a perception that the medium is inconsequential. I'm sure the energy equals out either way; too few people expending a good amount to write in or too many people expending little to click a button.

I few years back I worked with a guy whose daughter interned with a U.S. rep from Connecticut. The policy was to read ALL letters and communicate results to the rep such as 56 letters for and 23 against and also quote a few representative comments. Emails were universally ignored. The thinking was that letters require some serious effect, but that emails could be whipped off in a few minutes by cranks and the volume is overwhelming.

[LouisVanDerWright]

Originally Posted by BrinChi

^ And I love </sarcasm> how Dick talks about how the buildings are in such disrepair, when the only reason they've deteriorated is because the Feds bought them in 2005 and have neglected them

This is the same straw man Northwestern used to justify demolishing Prentice...

[harryc]

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

This is the same straw man Northwestern used to justify demolishing Prentice...

I had direct experience in that one - put in Token Ring and DEC - was an extremely robust building - with a modern layout.


My Goldberg gently weeps.

[Randomguy34]

You know, someone in the Sears Tower could look down into the court rooms. They should demolish the Sears just to be safe

[rivernorthlurker]

Originally Posted by Toasty Joe

the reasoning behind the demo is so absurd it seems like a VEEP or parks & rec episode

Employee: "We could close the blinds, install special windows..."

Boss: "How about we just tear the buildings down?!?"

Everyone: "You're a genius boss!"

[The Pimp]

Originally Posted by harryc

I had direct experience in that one - put in Token Ring and DEC - was an extremely robust building - with a modern layout.


My Goldberg gently weeps.

Never a fan of this building or University Hall at UIC. Glad this Brutalistic eyesore is gone. Reminds me of Soviet architecture.

[OhioGuy]

Any word on when this project will begin construction? The article is from last summer, so I was just curious for the latest details on its status.

19-Story Apartment Building On Lake Shore Drive In Lakeview Approved By Key City Panel


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[r18tdi]

Originally Posted by OhioGuy

Any word on when this project will begin construction? The article is from last summer, so I was just curious for the latest details on its status.

Hopefully never. Woof.

[The Lurker]

https://chicago.urbanize.city/post/b...75-n-kingsbury

The final phase of the Big Deahl development (27 story tower) received foundation and tower crane permits

Sorry if this was previously reported

[twister244]

Originally Posted by r18tdi

Hopefully never. Woof.

Consider me banned, but I kinda am rooting for this proposal. It's so rare to see anything new go up along the lake north of downtown, so I welcome this.

[Dasylirion]

Originally Posted by OhioGuy

Any word on when this project will begin construction? The article is from last summer, so I was just curious for the latest details on its status.

19-Story Apartment Building On Lake Shore Drive In Lakeview Approved By Key City Panel


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Never would be too soon.

[thegoatman]

Why did we stop building highrises by the lakefront?

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by thegoatman

Why did we stop building highrises by the lakefront?

Short answer: NIMBYs

Long answer: stupid fucking NIMBYs

[the urban politician]

^ Well, we also kinda have run out of available lots on the north side. Sure there are some, but it’s pretty built out at this point.

Let’s not forget all of the lakefront construction going on in Lakeshore East as well

[thegoatman]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ Well, we also kinda have run out of available lots on the north side. Sure there are some, but it’s pretty built out at this point.

Let’s not forget all of the lakefront construction going on in Lakeshore East as well

bullshit, there's plenty of low rises and strip malls by the lakefront that can be redeveloped. The nimby's who want to live in suburbia in the city will oppose it tho.

[r18tdi]

A lakefront high-rise for me, but not for thee.

[twister244]

Originally Posted by thegoatman

bullshit, there's plenty of low rises and strip malls by the lakefront that can be redeveloped. The nimby's who want to live in suburbia in the city will oppose it tho.

And who says it has to be on the lake? I stayed in a short-term furnished rental from Thanksgiving until February before closing on my condo. It was a newer construction apartment building nestled on Belmont about a block away from the lake. It was short enough that it really didn't block anyone's views, but was tall enough to have niche neighborhood views. There's a Walgreens on the corner of Belmont and Broadway that could easily be put into the podium of a 15-30 story building.

Just my 2-cents.

[Briguy]

Originally Posted by twister244

And who says it has to be on the lake? I stayed in a short-term furnished rental from Thanksgiving until February before closing on my condo. It was a newer construction apartment building nestled on Belmont about a block away from the lake. It was short enough that it really didn't block anyone's views, but was tall enough to have niche neighborhood views. There's a Walgreens on the corner of Belmont and Broadway that could easily be put into the podium of a 15-30 story building.

Just my 2-cents.

There’s SO much one story retail on broadway in Frankenstein 1910s buildings that have been refaced like 8 times by now. Glad there’s some residential conversion happening on broadway, but that strip needs like 5 more optima-type developments