Regina/Winnipeg equivalents - Page 5

BlackDog204 · #81 Posted **Nov 20, 2022, 6:32 AM**

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True North Square has 2 short towers and 1 under construction. The Ice District has 2 tall towers and none under construction. The amount of buildings isn't that different. Both have more planned, not just TNS. Like in Winnipeg, there's also other new towers adjacent to the Ice District property (Ultima and Encore condos) and the affiliated Edmonton Tower that houses CoE employees. The number of buildings isn't that different, but Edmonton's are taller still.

Even if you wanted to argue that the square footage was identical, the way that Ice District is designed is a lot more "big city" feeling and substantial. The Ice District has Loblaw City Market, while True North Square has Hargrave Street Market. Both required a lot of municipal subsidization to come about. There's a lot of weird similarities between the two, but Edmonton's is much more grandiose.

I've been to both areas, and the Ice District, although larger, looks cold and out of place. There is nothing but homeless shelters, and crime infested areas to the north and east. It almost looks like there is an invisible line, going from a massive complex to a shanty town. If that makes the Ice District "much more grandiose" I will stick with the TNS any day of the week. Edmonton, in general, is just a dirty city that has a massive inferiority complex to it's world class provincial counterpart, 3 hours south on the QE2.

ue · #82 Posted **Nov 20, 2022, 6:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by BlackDog204

I've been to both areas, and the Ice District, although larger, looks cold and out of place. There is nothing but homeless shelters, and crime infested areas to the north and east. It almost looks like there is an invisible line, going from a massive complex to a shanty town. If that makes the Ice District "much more grandiose" I will stick with the TNS any day of the week. Edmonton, in general, is just a dirty city that has a massive inferiority complex to it's world class provincial counterpart, 3 hours south on the QE2.

You clearly lack reading comprehension skills. The juxtaposition between the Ice District and the areas directly north (not east, which is just more downtown office towers, so clearly you are out of touch with reality) has nothing to do with the grandeur. Maybe re-read what I said.

It's also quite hilarious that you're coming from Winnipeg and complaining that Edmonton is dirty. Winnipeg is probably the only city where its citizenry will look to American cities for cleanliness. So many Winnipeggers talk about how they finally made it to Minneapolis and couldn't believe how clean it was by comparison.

It's not like Downtown Winnipeg doesn't have hard contrasts between "rough" areas and shiny new development, either. True North Square is just not one such place because its in the heart of the middle class office worker downtown. But Red River College and the lofts and new infill of the western Exchange sharply contrasts Centennial, one of the poorest neighbourhoods in the city. You see a similar thing with the northeastern part of the Exchange around Cibo/Mere and this harshly juxtaposing Point Douglas. Meanwhile shelters like Main Street Project and the Salvation Army are just north of the Manitoba Museum and the Canada Games Sports Centre on Main Street. Ellice between Hargrave and Balmoral is also a sharp "border" in a similar way to 105 Ave in Downtown Edmonton. Buildings like Portage Place face away from Ellice as if its the back-end afterthought in a way similar to MacEwan University faces away from 105th. In both cases, you have major downtown revitalization projects on the south side of the street and run-down, immigrant and refugee heavy low income residential on the other.

Get over yourself. Both Edmonton and Winnipeg are shitholes in their own ways.

harls · #83 Posted **Nov 20, 2022, 3:21 PM**

S. Halsted St - Chicago

Osborne St - Winnipeg

I drove through Chicago on S. Halsted in 2004. It reminded me so much of Winnipeg. Maybe Osborne is a stretch, but I am sure there are streets like Halsted in Winnipeg that I have forgotten (Academy, maybe?)

MolsonExport · #84 Posted **Nov 20, 2022, 5:45 PM**

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Ex-per-i-ence RE-GI-NA... Pizza

I still can't believe someone made this

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oh man, that is so bad. It has the quality of a grade-7 AV project.

like this (made when London was completely in the Dumps, no doubt only because of a "Can't Do" Eastern attitude). I don't think they could make something as bad on purpose:

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This is actually way, way better, despite being a parody:

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phone · #85 Posted **Nov 20, 2022, 6:08 PM**

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oh man, that is so bad. It has the quality of a grade-7 AV project.

I mean, it’s outwardly satirical, and the makers (Americans who passed through once) have confirmed as much. I’m saddened that you think this would actually be an official tourism video….

esquire · #86 Posted **Nov 20, 2022, 6:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by harls

S. Halsted St - Chicago

Osborne St - Winnipeg

I drove through Chicago on S. Halsted in 2004. It reminded me so much of Winnipeg. Maybe Osborne is a stretch, but I am sure there are streets like Halsted in Winnipeg that I have forgotten (Academy, maybe?)

I can see the Winnipegginess of Halsted but it looks like the West End or North End. Academy projects a slight poshness that I am not seeing anywhere on that corner of Halsted you posted.

MolsonExport · #87 Posted **Nov 20, 2022, 7:21 PM**

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I mean, it’s outwardly satirical, and the makers (Americans who passed through once) have confirmed as much. I’m saddened that you think this would actually be an official tourism video….

I figured as much, but you would wonder by reading the commentaries in the youtube video. Don't be saddened. I did not probe information about who the makers were, as I am in no rush to visit Regina. (no offense intended to Regina, which I have been to 4 times).

BlackDog204 · #88 Posted **Nov 20, 2022, 9:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by ue

You clearly lack reading comprehension skills. The juxtaposition between the Ice District and the areas directly north (not east, which is just more downtown office towers, so clearly you are out of touch with reality) has nothing to do with the grandeur. Maybe re-read what I said.

It's also quite hilarious that you're coming from Winnipeg and complaining that Edmonton is dirty. Winnipeg is probably the only city where its citizenry will look to American cities for cleanliness. So many Winnipeggers talk about how they finally made it to Minneapolis and couldn't believe how clean it was by comparison.

I don't understand how a Winnipeg/Regina thread got to be about Edmonton, but trashing Winnipeg in comparison isn't going to win many friends. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

thurmas · #89 Posted **Nov 20, 2022, 10:41 PM**

You haven't seen Regina until you've been to the Turvey centre

Wigs · #90 Posted **Nov 21, 2022, 1:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

I figured as much, but you would wonder by reading the commentaries in the youtube video. Don't be saddened. I did not probe information about who the makers were, as I am in no rush to visit Regina. (no offense intended to Regina, which I have been to 4 times).

Molson, I hope "Ex-per-i-ence Re-juy-nuh" with the background music is in your head for the rest of the month

harls · #91 Posted **Nov 21, 2022, 8:28 AM**

I have experienced Regina. Lived there in 2001.
Now I will forward that video to my Saskatchewan friends who have most certainly heard it.

lio45 · #92 Posted **Nov 21, 2022, 11:15 AM**

Remind me again, what’s Edmonton’s answer to Winnipeg’s Bro Ass?

lio45 · #93 Posted **Nov 21, 2022, 11:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by ue

It's also quite hilarious that you're coming from Winnipeg and complaining that Edmonton is dirty. Winnipeg is probably the only city where its citizenry will look to American cities for cleanliness. So many Winnipeggers talk about how they finally made it to Minneapolis and couldn't believe how clean it was by comparison.

Winnipeg isn’t alone. It’s fairly typical to be shocked by how clean the closest big US city is (Boston) by contrast with what we’re used to (Montreal).

I’d guess maybe Van->Sea produces a similar effect too but I’d let the locals confirm. My ex-gf visited both back to back (first time in both cases) years ago, and that was her impression, but, anecdotal at this point.

MolsonExport · #94 Posted **Nov 21, 2022, 2:49 PM**

I was disappointed with Seattle on my two visits. I had expected it to feel much larger than Vancouver. Certainly the skyline gave me such an impression but the scene at the street level was much more sedate. And the city's rapid transit was several orders of magnitude worse than Vancouver's. Maybe things have changed since my last visit.

lio45 · #95 Posted **Nov 21, 2022, 2:57 PM**

My guess is that my ex-gf went to the older parts of Vancouver (Gastown -> she stumbled upon the DTES) expecting them to be the interesting/vibrant/touristy areas, then contrasted that with whatever the vibrant parts of Seattle looked like at the time, and found the latter cleaner.

Which is why I'm pointing out it's anecdotal and a sample of one whose methodology (personal tourist habits) I have not fully validated, as I wasn't there on that trip (but I can guess).

hipster duck · #96 Posted **Nov 21, 2022, 3:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

oh man, that is so bad. It has the quality of a grade-7 AV project.

like this (made when London was completely in the Dumps, no doubt only because of a "Can't Do" Eastern attitude). I don't think they could make something as bad on purpose:

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Are you sure that a band with the name "Jim Chapman's Incontinentals" isn't a joke?

MolsonExport · #97 Posted **Nov 21, 2022, 4:23 PM**

^It was commissioned by the city. I only wish it were a real joke, instead of being an unintended one. Chapman's band is a real one.

harls · #98 Posted **Nov 21, 2022, 5:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

I can see the Winnipegginess of Halsted but it looks like the West End or North End. Academy projects a slight poshness that I am not seeing anywhere on that corner of Halsted you posted.

'Winnipegginess' should be a word.

Yeah, Academy is a bit more upscale than Halsted. It was a bad example.

Maybe more McGregor-ish.

thewave46 · #99 Posted **Nov 21, 2022, 5:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by harls

'Winnipegginess' should be a word.

Yeah, Academy is a bit more upscale than Halsted. It was a bad example.

Maybe more McGregor-ish.

Winnipegginess (adj):
1. A grizzled hardiness borne of a harsh environment; yet resolute in averageness and unpretentiousness.
2. Yeah, it’s cold here, there are mosquitoes, and we’re the butt of most jokes. At least we didn’t have to sell our kidney to buy a shoebox condo, losers.

O-tacular · #**100** Posted **Nov 21, 2022, 5:22 PM**

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Are you sure that a band with the name "Jim Chapman's Incontinentals" isn't a joke?

Are they sponsored by Depends?