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View Poll Results: Of the 17 cities/regions in North America selected to host a World Cup, which should
Atlanta: Mercedes-Benz Stadium 11 11.34%
Boston: Gillette Stadium 0 0%
Dallas: AT&T Stadium 4 4.12%
Guadalajara: Estadio Akron 2 2.06%
Houston: NRG Stadium 5 5.15%
Kansas City: Arrowhead Stadium 5 5.15%
Los Angeles: SoFi Stadium 22 22.68%
Mexico City: Estadio Azteca 11 11.34%
Monterrey: Estadio BBVVA Bancomer 0 0%
Miami: Hard Rock Stadium 2 2.06%
New York/New Jersey: MetLife Stadium 17 17.53%
Philadelphia: Lincoln Financial Field 10 10.31%
San Francisco Bay Area: Levi's Stadium 3 3.09%
Seattle: Lumen Field 3 3.09%
Toronto: BMO Field 1 1.03%
Vancouver: BC Place 1 1.03%
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It's the most centrally located of the group.
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Dallas is my bet, it has everything to offer from AT&T Stadium which can easily accommodate 100K spectators to the Cotton Bowl 80K spectators. Other advantages are that DFW metro area is the largest that is most centralized in the North American Continent Making flights shorter to and from DFW International Airport than any other major metro area in the continent. The airport is now is the second busiest in the world, with construction of a new terminal and improvements costing in the billions of dollars within the next three years. Also not to mention the other major airport Love Field. DFW has the longest light rail system in the country with commuter rail as well. DFW being a major hub of communications is also ideal for the World Cup broadcasting Center as well.
There is absolutely NO reason to set foot in Texas.
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Dallas is my bet, it has everything to offer from AT&T Stadium which can easily accommodate 100K spectators to the Cotton Bowl 80K spectators. Other advantages are that DFW metro area is the largest that is most centralized in the North American Continent Making flights shorter to and from DFW International Airport than any other major metro area in the continent. The airport is now is the second busiest in the world, with construction of a new terminal and improvements costing in the billions of dollars within the next three years. Also not to mention the other major airport Love Field. DFW has the longest light rail system in the country with commuter rail as well. DFW being a major hub of communications is also ideal for the World Cup broadcasting Center as well.
Of course Dallas is your bet. That's not going to happen.
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I read one story that got picked up by everyone that Sofi is too narrow to host it. FIFA wants 80,000 capacity seating. Sofi is 70,000. It can expand to more but not while taking seats out to expand the field, supposedly. But then they awarded Sofi the LA venue over the Rose Bowl (which actually DID host the only World Cup in the US with a seating capacity of 89,000) knowing this, so there’s also belief that FIFA is just being FIFA in trying to con a better deal for itself. But for now, I would put it out of the running.

So with that in mind, Dallas and Metlife are the front runners. I’m betting Dallas because of the retractable roof and accessibility. Metlife always has a chance of rain. Dallas can accomodate 100,000 but not for the World Cup. It’s expected to be around 80,000. Metlife at 82,000.

Ultimately it’ll come down to who can wine and dine FIFA the best.
Atlanta has all of this and more. Hartsfield-Jackson is the busiest in the world and within a 2-hour flight from 80% of the population in the USA. Texas, like Florida, have become an international joke.
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Atlanta has all of this and more. Hartsfield-Jackson is the busiest in the world and within a 2-hour flight from 80% of the population in the USA. Texas, like Florida, have become an international joke.
Interesting...maybe Atlanta will pull off a surprise like it did when it snatched it snatched the 1996 Olympics from Toronto...
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after all, RFK stadium is one of them and it's still alive.
RFK hasn't had a tenant since DC United left it in 2017 and it is now slated for demolition.

Once it's gone, the inglorious chapter of the cookie-cutter concrete donuts will be closed for good.
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RFK hasn't had a tenant since DC United left it in 2017 and it is now slated for demolition.

Once it's gone, the inglorious chapter of the cookie-cutter concrete donuts will be closed for good.
that horrible freakin era. worst stadiums ever. what the hell were people thinking back then? cheap and hateful. nothing around them. shea stadium, the first of this stoopid era, was even downright dangerous with its scary narrow flyover stairs funneling crowds. i hated going to events at all of them and i always hated even looking at them. i am going to chug a cheap beer when they tear down rfk.
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that horrible freakin era. worst stadiums ever. what the hell were people thinking back then? .
Even more maddening when you consider the classic jewel box ballparks that many of the concrete donuts replaced, places like Connie Mack in Philly, Griffith Park in DC, Forbes Field in Pittsburg, Crosley Field in Cincy, and Sportsmans Park in St. Louis.
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that horrible freakin era. worst stadiums ever. what the hell were people thinking back then? cheap and hateful.
as someone who grew up going to the Vet in Philly, I hated those stadiums too. But what they were thinking was that since these stadiums were almost entirely publicly funded, which had not happened prior to this period, they wanted to get the most bang for the taxpayer buck. so they were designed to be multipurpose, used year round, and be durable. they wanted them to be accessible to the suburban sports fan who had just left the city less than a generation ago, so they put them in oceans of parking. it was a noble experiment, but the results were disastrous.
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It's going to be embarassing to have aerials of a suburban stadium in a sea of surface parking.
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It's going to be embarassing to have aerials of a suburban stadium in a sea of surface parking.
The aerials usually pan toward the downtown skylines after a quick survey of the stadium. Which I always love, of course.
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It's going to be embarassing to have aerials of a suburban stadium in a sea of surface parking.
Philly's stadium district is way more bearable than the Meadow lands and you could setup a large festival space right outside the subway station. I saw in the news NY and NJ officials are making a big push for the final. It's probably going to be there.
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Atlanta has all of this and more. Hartsfield-Jackson is the busiest in the world and within a 2-hour flight from 80% of the population in the USA. Texas, like Florida, have become an international joke.
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Yes, MLB this year. A big event really benefits from neighboring facilities.

City Nerd just did a good video on stadium urbanity BTW. Philly scored well for clustering and transit but poorly for putting everything in a giant sea of parking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtGU...annel=CityNerd
It was a stupid review of Philadelphia and completely overblown about the "sea of parking lots". The Philadelphia Sports Complex works perfectly fine and the review made it seem like it's out in the middle of nowhere and the only way there is by car.

I can't even fathom that anyone would think Center City would be a better place to stick a football stadium. They tried to put the Phillies there and seeing what was built in the area that the stadium would have taken up...i think what is there now is better and add to the city better than a baseball stadium in use 81-100 times a year. The only spot near Center City for both that might have worked would been over the 30th Street Rail Yards. That's about it.

I also gathered that City Nerd has never set foot in South Philly on any given day during a sporting or any other kind of event. It can get pretty festive..especially on Eagles game day...or when there are multiple events going on at different venues. Plenty of people park and tail gate in FDR Park on game days...it's not like the Meadowlands. Last Summer I was down there there heading to the Philadelphia Flower Show in FDR Park and parting ways with people walking the other way to the Phillies game...two big events...same area...got there by train/subway..

Which brings me to the point that Any one in the Metro Area can take AMTRAK/SEPTA/PATCO/NJ Transit from where they live and step off the subway for every venue down there. It doesn't matter which county...u can get there without having to drive there and park in a big parking lot. That is the beauty of the location, it can be accessed in every direction by rail, bus or car..even a bike!. You can still walk there in you want. There are sidewalks that lead you down there. You can't walk to the Meadowlands. That seems pretty urban to me. I mean...there are literally homes right there (Packer Park) and it's only a few blocks past them when you start hitting the core density of South Philly.

Lastly, what he saw on Google Maps and went "Ew" due to the parking lots, I see as space for future development. The Live Casino was rebuilt next to CBP. There was supposed to be a ESports Arena down there but that is on hold or whatever at this point...but the point is that is could come off hold and be added to a future growing stadium/entertainment district. I wish they had not knocked down the Spectrum and instead skinned it..gutted the insides and then built the Xfinty Live Complex around and may downsized the original area back to it's 1967 dimensions...it was better for concerts acoustically than the current Wells Fargo Center. I also wish the Union had decided to build down there maybe on the old Vet footprint but I guess having it next to the Barry is cool looking.

So I think the World Cup Final would be perfect during the 250th Anniversary of the US in America's Hometown...and the best city for sports...Philadelphia!
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^ it's cool that you like going there.

but it's still one heck of a shit-acular parking lot hellscape.

a blot on one of america's finest cities.


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^ cool, i'm glad you like going there.

but it's still one heck of a shit-acular parking lot hellscape.

a blot on one of america's finest cities.


Have you ever attended an event there? How do you know what kind of a hellscape it is other than going by a picture. Logistically...it works every well hosting events..often events taking place at the same time and getting people in and out...many that head back into Center City within a few minutes.
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^ even if it functions well, it still sucks from a built-form perspective.

hardly a place we should want to feature as the face of the nation for the WC final.

then again, most NFL stadiums suck in that regard.

our nation is generally horrible at giant stadiums.
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^ even if it functions well, it still sucks from a built-form perspective.

hardly a place we should want to feature as the face of the nation for the WC final.

then again, most NFL stadiums suck in that regard.

our nation is generally horrible at giant stadiums.
The Swifties didn't mind...they had thousands outside the stadium...total party...if you can deal with it.

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You could totally build a World Cup Festival on those lots and the aerial shots wouldn't look that bad.....and the view from the stadium shows the skyline right up the street.

Built form...again...where in the narrow streets of Philly would you put a stadium like The Linc. I mean there is a reason why they play football in Foxboro, East Rutherford and Landover and not Boston, New York or Washington DC. The Eagles play in Philadelphia. Just sayin....

The Meadowlands is parking lots, a mall and swamp land. JerryWorld is not much better. SoFi is even more parking lots than Philly. You are right...NFL Stadiums are not majestic structures in quaint neighborhoods. But look where they held the last Cup Final...makes South Philly look not so bad in terms of hellscape surrounding the stadium or any NFL stadium in the US for that matter.

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^ I only responded to you because you seemed to be arguing that the Philly sports complex is a good thing.

I think it's actually a shitty thing.

Just like most US stadium complexes surrounded by an ocean of asphalt.




Love it all you want.

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