The Canadian Electric Vehicle thread

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by theman23

What exactly are the arguments from opponents of charger installations? Might as well get in now while the government covers part of the cost.

People are incredibly cheap and short sighted.

[homebucket]

Been seeing more and more Vinfasts around. Anyone else starting to see them as well?

[homebucket]

Here's a white one:

[WarrenC12]

I'm in Vancouver (EV HQ of Canada ) and haven't seen any.

I did see a Lucid Air though.

[Acajack]

One thing about managing charging stops on longer trips out of town: pressure from impatient passengers who say "can we go now, surely we have enough!". And if you give in to them, you may end up having to stop again whereas with 5 minutes more charging you would have easily made it to your destination.

[homebucket]

Originally Posted by Acajack

One thing about managing charging stops on longer trips out of town: pressure from impatient passengers who say "can we go now, surely we have enough!". And if you give in to them, you may end up having to stop again whereas with 5 minutes more charging you would have easily made it to your destination.

Probably just need to build more retail and dining and entertainment around rest stops like the Autogrills in Italy, where you can stop for 30+ min and charge while grabbing lunch, stretching your legs, do some quick souvenir shopping, or play at the arcade.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by homebucket

Probably just need to build more retail and dining and entertainment around rest stops like the Autogrills in Italy, where you can stop for 30+ min and charge while grabbing lunch, stretching your legs, do some quick souvenir shopping, or play at the arcade.

Depends how fast the charging is. I often have trouble running to DQ, ordering, scarfing the food down, before I need to disconnect the charger (paying per minute).

[homebucket]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Depends how fast the charging is. I often have trouble running to DQ, ordering, scarfing the food down, before I need to disconnect the charger (paying per minute).

Maybe something like a Sonic Drive In style rest stop could work in that case where you just drive up to a space, order your food and eat in or next to your car while it charges. Once it’s done charging you could park your car nearby and finish your meal.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by homebucket

Maybe something like a Sonic Drive In style rest stop could work in that case where you just drive up to a space, order your food and eat in or next to your car while it charges. Once it’s done charging you could park your car nearby and finish your meal.

Some kind of concept will work. "Fast" food should be ideal. You need to there longer than going into your typical gas station to buy a bag of chips and a slurpee, but not really sit down meal length.

[vanatox]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

I'm in Vancouver (EV HQ of Canada ) and haven't seen any.

I did see a Lucid Air though.

The biggest EV market in Canada is Quebec, not BC. BC is third after Ontario.

But I have not seen any Vinfast on the road here as well.

The number of Teslas on the road though has increased A LOT. Happy owner of a MY 2022 for about 6 months . Best car I have ever had.

[Nouvellecosse]

It can be hard to find an ideal charging time since gassing ICE cars can actually be too quick or too infrequent in some cases. It's common for driver fatigue to be a contributing factor in accidents since experts seem to recommend a rest stop every couple of hours. Yet ICE vehicles can drive on the highway for far longer than that and refill really quickly. And even for passengers, it's also not that great to be in the same position for hours on end, and you can't really get up for a moment to stretch your legs without stopping like you can on a train or a plane.

In my experience with ICE cars, I've had passengers get annoyed on long trips when i wanted to stop and rest my eyes because I felt a touch of drowsiness setting in, but in a car with a nearly 1000km highway range, I didn't really have a good excuse. Well, beyond not wanting to die. But with someone who has never driven that's hard for them to understand.

I think to some degree it's just a matter of accepting the new reality. People scrutinize the new and different and complain about the downsides while they just accept things they're accustomed at face value since it's just "the way things are".

[Architype]

Originally Posted by vanatox

The biggest EV market in Canada is Quebec, not BC. BC is third after Ontario.

But I have not seen any Vinfast on the road here as well.

The number of Teslas on the road though has increased A LOT. Happy owner of a MY 2022 for about 6 months . Best car I have ever had.

Maybe it's changed since, but one year ago I was reading articles which said otherwise. I haven't seen any Vinfast in Vancouver, but I've seen Polestars, and I've seen the Lucid store on Georgia St. many times.

B.C. tops Quebec and California as EV capital of North America
In B.C., the rate of electric vehicle sales once again leads all other Canadian provinces and all U.S. states, according to a new government report.

https://biv.com/article/2022/04/bc-t...-north-america

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by vanatox

The biggest EV market in Canada is Quebec, not BC. BC is third after Ontario.

But I have not seen any Vinfast on the road here as well.

The number of Teslas on the road though has increased A LOT. Happy owner of a MY 2022 for about 6 months . Best car I have ever had.

Did I say BC? I didn't.

Vancouver is highest per capita in the country.

But BC is more lately anyway:

In the first quarter, 93.1% of new ZEVs registered were in Canada's three largest provinces. British Columbia had the highest proportion of new ZEV registrations, representing 15.5% of all new motor vehicle registrations in the province. Quebec had the most new ZEVs registered (10,399), comprising 12.7% of all new registrations in the province. Registrations of new ZEVs more than doubled (+114.0%) in Ontario from the first quarter of 2021 to the same quarter in 2022. During this same period, new ZEV registrations increased 50.7% in Quebec and were up 9.6% in British Columbia.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/dail...20721d-eng.htm

[vanatox]

I'm talking volume (number of EV sales/registrations), you guys are talking about "per capita"... Biggest EV markets in Canada are 1) Quebec, 2) Ontario, and 3) BC, in that decreasing order.

While Vancouver has a higher proportion of EVs per capita (22.5%), Montreal with 16% has more EVs on the road due to having just may more cars due to higher population.

https://electricautonomy.ca/2023/02/...sales-q4-2022/

When a company is looking to sell a product in a market, they are more interested in the number of units in total that they can sell than the number of units that they can sell per capita. Quebec and Ontario are considered bigger market than BC in Canada for EV manufacturers. But that doesn't mean than BC is not important, third biggest is big.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by vanatox

I'm talking volume (number of EV sales/registrations), you guys are talking about "per capita"... Biggest EV markets in Canada are 1) Quebec, 2) Ontario, and 3) BC, in that decreasing order.

While Vancouver has a higher proportion of EVs per capita (22.5%), Montreal with 16% has more EVs on the road due to having just may more cars due to higher population.

https://electricautonomy.ca/2023/02/...sales-q4-2022/

Per capita is the only reasonable metric for Canada, unless you live in Toronto.

[vanatox]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Per capita is the only reasonable metric for Canada, unless you live in Toronto.

lol... not sure you will find a lot of "per capita" fans here on ssp.

[homebucket]

How do y'all like the new Model 3 front end?



https://insideevs.com/news/662163/te...egedly-leaked/

[urbandreamer]

^Unless it comes with a chrome grill and landau roof with whitewall tires, I ain't buying. Give me some woodie trim and chrome around the windows, real gauges and rotary knob HVAC controls.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by homebucket

How do y'all like the new Model 3 front end?



https://insideevs.com/news/662163/te...egedly-leaked/

Looks like a worn bar of soap?

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by homebucket

Been seeing more and more Vinfasts around. Anyone else starting to see them as well?

Manufacturer plates. Test vehicle?

Nice colour. It's good to see some non grey/silver, white, black vehicles on the road.