Black-trimmed homes, tiny libraries and other signs of gentrification - Page 3

dave8721 · #41 Posted **Dec 16, 2023, 9:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by mrnyc

box houses seem more the thing in cali —

L.A. taken over by giant box houses that favor size over style

Nov 1, 2023Nov. 1, 2023

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...dern-box-house

Boxy houses are all the rage in gentrifying neighborhoods here too (or any newly constructed upscale home). And of course black or dark trim on houses, black mail boxes, black metal fences.

Example. This is a traditional spanish style Miami home.
https://www.google.com/maps/@25.7360...8192?entry=ttu

The other side of the street, newly built box homes, with the new fences they all need to have it seems:
https://www.google.com/maps/@25.7360...8192?entry=ttu

In Miami the #1 sign of a gentrifying neighborhood is impact glass windows on the homes and fancy mailboxes. And some new updated driveway.

Wigs · #42 Posted **Dec 16, 2023, 11:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by JManc

...and usually get crappier.

tacos de gente blanca are always worse and double the price

Busy Bee · #43 Posted **Dec 17, 2023, 12:11 AM**

I'd like to make a minor clarification regarding the painting of brick that is neutral about it's aesthetic benefit or detriment...

From everything that I understand about building science, PAINTING exterior brick is almost always a bad idea. Modern acrylic latex paints by definition form a moisture impenetrable film over the masonry which means if any moisture gets trapped in the masonry behind the film and can't get out it dramatically accelerates a deterioration process in both the brick and mortar, let alone causes the paint coating to fail like when you see the bubbling and flaking of an exterior paint job over brick. STAINING exterior masonry on the other hand is breathable and will not trap moisture in the brick and mortar. And opaque stains come in all the colors that any paint would, not just wood colors that most think of stain appearing.

Whether the plethora of home improvement and design shows are painting or staining I really don't know. I'd like to think people in the construction industry know what they are doing, but I'm also a realist.

AviationGuy · #44 Posted **Dec 17, 2023, 12:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by dave8721

Boxy houses are all the rage in gentrifying neighborhoods here too (or any newly constructed upscale home). And of course black or dark trim on houses, black mail boxes, black metal fences.

Example. This is a traditional spanish style Miami home.
https://www.google.com/maps/@25.7360...8192?entry=ttu

The other side of the street, newly built box homes, with the new fences they all need to have it seems:
https://www.google.com/maps/@25.7360...8192?entry=ttu

In Miami the #1 sign of a gentrifying neighborhood is impact glass windows on the homes and fancy mailboxes. And some new updated driveway.

The boxy homes you showed look very familiar. There's a new one on my street where a famous singer lives. It's actually pretty attractive due to some beautiful trees and landscaping. Still, I prefer the older style Spanish home you showed.

Crawford · #45 Posted **Dec 17, 2023, 12:48 AM**

Those look like typical upper class homes in Latin America. I don't like the style, as it defeats the purpose of SFH neighborhoods, but that's likely the future of affluent Sunbelt areas with lots of Latins.

Wigs · #46 Posted **Dec 17, 2023, 1:05 AM**

I don't like the "gated entry" look of those modern ones. I prefer the older Spanish colonial style houses

SpongeG · #47 Posted **Dec 22, 2023, 5:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by The North One

Painting brick should be illegal.

what about stained brick?

bilbao58 · #48 Posted **Dec 22, 2023, 6:11 PM**

Little boxes. Little boxes… Houston style.

Little Boxes in Montrose on Flickr

Obadno · #49 Posted **Dec 22, 2023, 6:29 PM**

These dont look bad at all for modern townhomes. They fit in fine in a densifying single family home neighborhood.

Obadno · #50 Posted **Dec 22, 2023, 6:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

what about stained brick?

This is just bad taste

bilbao58 · #51 Posted **Dec 22, 2023, 6:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by Obadno

These dont look bad at all for modern townhomes. They fit in fine in a densifying single family home neighborhood.

My only problem with them is the garage/driveway setup. Right after this photo was taken a resident parked her Audi station wagon in her driveway and blocked the sidewalk.

Obadno · #52 Posted **Dec 22, 2023, 6:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by iheartthed

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that Steven Sanders moving in was a clear sign of gentrification for his (probably former) neighbors lol:

Gotta love "close the door behind you" syndrome. Its not gentrifying when I move in, its Gentrification when even richer people move in and the neighborhood starts to leave me behind!

ChrisLA · #53 Posted **Dec 22, 2023, 8:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by bilbao58

Little boxes. Little boxes… Houston style.

Little Boxes in Montrose on Flickr

These look a lot like the infill I see currently built and others that are under construction up and down the streets around Sherman Oaks to Van Nuys. Although most here are crammed in and the the garages usually share one driveway and face each other.

Innsertnamehere · #54 Posted **Dec 22, 2023, 9:10 PM**

In Toronto, it's the proliferation of "lot-split specials" - new single-detached homes, often created through the splitting of a smaller dwelling on a larger lot into two new lots. Results in a narrow frontage, typically with a flat-roofed, 2.5-3 storey house with a single car garage. The flat roof lets them max out the zoning envelope.

You can find these literally all over the city:

Typically sell for between $1.3 and $2 million USD depending on size, location, age, and level of finish.

bilbao58 · #55 Posted **Dec 22, 2023, 9:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by ChrisLA

Although most here are crammed in and the the garages usually share one driveway and face each other.

You mean like these?
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NGcx9DLz2b9xB88DA?g_st=ic

https://maps.app.goo.gl/QAQ3D2GKcaUKbWS39?g_st=ic

https://maps.app.goo.gl/jitkZ8yZqNfqEWi17?g_st=ic

TWAK · #56 Posted **Dec 22, 2023, 9:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

what about stained brick?

The red look is so iconic I don't see the need to cover it. If the bricks were made in a different color that would be bit tacky (like the gold brick), but not as bad.

ChrisLA · #57 Posted **Dec 22, 2023, 9:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by bilbao58

You mean like these?
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NGcx9DLz2b9xB88DA?g_st=ic

https://maps.app.goo.gl/QAQ3D2GKcaUKbWS39?g_st=ic

https://maps.app.goo.gl/jitkZ8yZqNfqEWi17?g_st=ic

Yes, especially the last one, white seems to be be the popular color here in L.A.

Steely Dan · #58 Posted **Dec 22, 2023, 10:09 PM**

I don't know his name, but may God eternally bless the soul of whoever decided to bisect nearly every single one of Chicago's blocks with a service alley.

Well-played, Mr. Name Forgotten to History!

AviationGuy · #59 Posted **Dec 23, 2023, 3:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by Obadno

These dont look bad at all for modern townhomes. They fit in fine in a densifying single family home neighborhood.

And they're not little. They're large in square footage, and go way back on the lots. There are also a lot of these with varying styles, some really attractive and some not so much. They're popping up all over Austin as well.

Steely Dan · #60 Posted **Dec 23, 2023, 3:23 AM**

Here's a pretty typical new construction Chicago box house that just went up a block over from us.

It was a tear down lot of an old balloon frame that was not in great shape.

(It was an "old lady who died house" - ie. decades of deferred maintenance)

5 bed/4 bath
4,500 sq. ft.
$2.1M list price

Because car storage is accommodated by a detached garage off the alley in back, the front facade isn't nearly as terrible (IMO) as some of the other box house examples being posted in this thread.