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Old Posted Jul 16, 2015, 3:42 PM
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why would they change it again....
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At this point I hope they do a complete redesign in the direction of Salesforce tower in SF.
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The previous design was boring.
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Cool CHICAGO | Wolf Point - South & East Towers | ~950 ft & ~750 FT

as requested by many of you, these towers now have their own thread.
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My *very quick* attempt



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See that's nice, continuing the form and flow of the building up to a point. Much better. If only that were the real proposal.
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At this point I hope they do a complete redesign in the direction of Salesforce tower in SF.

Agreed. If PCP does turn out to indeed be the actual design architect of the S Tower, it needs a redo. Let's get completely rid of this pomo(ish) 'flair'. We're past that silliness.

They do have the ability to design some very nice facades. I believe Salesforce will turn out to be a good example. But one doesn't have to look far in San Francisco to find the ultimate example of this from PCP - the fantastic 560 Mission - which is a crown jewel in Pelli's portfolio. This is where they should be looking for inspiration from their own work.

Let's be clear though - this new rendering of the south tower design is a clear downgrade from the earlier design......if it's a choice between the two, the earlier version wins in a landslide (obviously ideally, that version would have some definite refinement......)
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The previous look was so boring. This round is so much better. Like the height and like the setbacks on both these towers. Great additions to the river.
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Ironically 150 N Riverside reminds me of this...

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See that's nice, continuing the form and flow of the building up to a point. Much better. If only that were the real proposal.
Thanks, I think adding the point in such a manner creates sort of a regal effect in keeping with the seemingly art deco influence they're trying to apply.
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So is going to be a little taller than the 950' advertised?
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So is going to be a little taller than the 950' advertised?
If one of us knew that, don't you think we would have said?
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^The new rendering clearly shows a taller building with more floors.
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^The new rendering clearly shows a taller building with more floors.
The new rendering clearly shows a spire on the south tower. As I've mentioned, the PD states that the height to the bottom of the top slab is 950' for the south tower and 750' for the east tower. This doesn't necessarily include mechanical penthouses, blade overruns, or spires.
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But one doesn't have to look far in San Francisco to find the ultimate example of this from PCP - the fantastic 560 Mission - which is a crown jewel in Pelli's portfolio. This is where they should be looking for inspiration from their own work.
Some images from the last public meeting indicated that PCP was considering this kind of intricate facade with terra cotta elements.

I imagine if 560 Mission was transplanted to Chicago, it would have big problems with icing. The NY Times tower has a similar design in a cold climate, and it continues to have issues with icing.
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The new rendering clearly shows a spire on the south tower. As I've mentioned, the PD states that the height to the bottom of the top slab is 950' for the south tower and 750' for the east tower. This doesn't necessarily include mechanical penthouses, blade overruns, or spires.
Right that's what I'm saying... the tower is now over 1000' even if you don't count the spire.
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The tower is now zero feet. If built it will top out at 983 feet.
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The tower is now zero feet. If built it will top out at 983 feet.
Or 299.6 meters...

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Apologies for the relatively meaningless thread bump, but I was day dreaming about this one, and I can't recall anyone pointing out the crown's defining characteristic- It's an inverted "Y", with a geometry that's clearly inspired by the Confluence. Nice touch, Pelli.
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Old Posted Aug 7, 2015, 2:40 PM
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Lol, I see it too, that's great especially if that really was his intent. With WPW finishing up, I'm itching to hear more on this one, please bump with news that WPS is breaking ground next time.
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2015, 1:48 PM
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Are there any hints that once construction is over at the apartment tower that they will begin work on the next two towers? I'm going to hate it if they begin to lay down asphalt for the parking lot and install landscaping.
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