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Old Posted Sep 26, 2007, 3:02 AM
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I don't think this tower is all that bad, I just think we could have got something far better for the money they are obviously going to spend.
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whatever i love this building and i think it fits in the skyline so well
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Calgary has no history and likely never will, so post-modernism isn't the insult it would be in an established city. This design is somewhat overwrought and disharmonious, but overall I would still take it over a stylistically pure, but still boring mimimalist box. Hopefully, this one is still a work in progress. Regardless, I can't see it or any large project for that matter going ahead as the housing market is slowing rapidly (ex. listings are at a record high).
That may be true. Some of the ill-conceived projects will no doubt fall by the way-side. The advantage this project has going for it in terms of feasibility is its mix of uses. If it were all residential, all commercial, or all hotel, it would have no hope. But there is a little bit of each, so I think it will likely take off.
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People just have bad taste IMO. The market is absolutely on fire, but many of the projects being erected are really lacking in design credibility. Things are coming around though, and there are a few great projects on the horizon. I personally have a major vendetta against facadism and POMO that will never end. I guess its more a personal issue than a market issue, but I'm not shy in saying that I think that Calgary needs to do better.


could not agree more....this is nothing more than a box with a five west on top...
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The more I look at this building the less I like it.
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could not agree more....this is nothing more than a box with a five west on top...
it's not just a box at all
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^sorry a collection of boxes.
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The more I look at this one, the more I like it. The biggest issue is the transition from the mostly hard surfaced base to the mostly glass upper section. The transition needs to be more gradual of the lower sections need more glass and the upper sections need more concrete/granite/stone.
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2007, 6:25 PM
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That may be true. Some of the ill-conceived projects will no doubt fall by the way-side. The advantage this project has going for it in terms of feasibility is its mix of uses. If it were all residential, all commercial, or all hotel, it would have no hope. But there is a little bit of each, so I think it will likely take off.
True, but given the way the market is heading, I can't see any new projects with significant residential getting off the ground. I wouldn't be surprised to see inner city condo prices fall 20-30%.
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^wont fall 20-30% but wont rise for a while...
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We've heard there was a major redesign and a new architect for this project. A Vancouver firm and a contemporary design - not Trump lite any more.

Great news! 50 storeys and no more spire.
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Awesome! This could really make a mark on the skyline.
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Definately. According to Unibrain who posted some unofficial numbers in the Calgary thread, its looking to be 243m to the top of the spire. Roof height will be less then the Bow still, but probably not by that much (Bow is 236m)
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cant wait to see the re-design.
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This project is now called The Grand

We are still waiting for new renderings
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It looks like San Diego's Electra Building on steroids. But they have done a bad job with this, and it looks somewhat shoddy...
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Calgary has no history and likely never will, so post-modernism isn't the insult it would be in an established city. This design is somewhat overwrought and disharmonious, but overall I would still take it over a stylistically pure, but still boring mimimalist box. Hopefully, this one is still a work in progress. Regardless, I can't see it or any large project for that matter going ahead as the housing market is slowing rapidly (ex. listings are at a record high).
Really? No history at all? That must be rough! That design is disgusting, it is everything that is wrong with post-modernism, a jumble of random styles, bad proportions, over complicated in some areas and boring in others, ICK. And BTW minimalist boxes are not boring, if you've ever been in or right next to a Mies building its quite and exciting experience, the way the building lifts up from the street and creates a forrest of pillars that draw you in to a lobby that is made of such clear glass that you feel like your not even in a building at all, but still outside. Its quite wonderful actually.

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We've heard there was a major redesign and a new architect for this project. A Vancouver firm and a contemporary design - not Trump lite any more.

Great news! 50 storeys and no more spire.
Thank God! I'm glad this nasty design with the tacked on spire will be replaced with something that at least has a chance of looking good.
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Really? No history at all? That must be rough!

It depends on what you mean by history. Calgary does have history if you're comparing it to a city like Chicago which isn't very old either, but doesn't have much history when compared to European cities, or even eastern NA cities like Boston, or Philly.
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