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Old Posted Oct 23, 2021, 3:28 AM
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I'm not going to just keep cleaning up political posts, there will be suspensions. You know who you are. No further commentary needed.
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2021, 3:34 AM
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After throwing up in my mouth a little, I think this could be ok if its not the boxy mess in the graphic. I'm hoping that its just a study image and not indicative of the actual design.
Perhaps they can follow the idea of the Sydney Tower but with a more modern design.

Well, the angle of the massing can be a little misleading. That mast is only supposed to be about a quarter of the height, but it looks larger from that angle...










I think there may still be more filling in for the tower itself.


Maybe if it were something like Foster's "Tulip", but it would still need more height to fit in with the skyline.


Barnett could have something like this in mind, though a boxier version...




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I’m actually a big fan of the tulip so if we get some sort of variation of that grafted to the side of a building that makes sense design wise I wouldn’t be too upset.

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Stick a nightclub up there. 25 Dollar cocktails.
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2021, 6:20 AM
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This reminds me of those revolving restaurant hotels around the world- a regular hotel building with a whimsical attraction stuck on top. I personally don't mind them, they can add a bit of interest to a skyline if designed well.

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Hey guys, just an FYI but when replying to some posts, and in general with other NY threads, there is no need to include massive picture sets in the reply that were posted in the post that one is replying to. It just makes it navigating a hassle for everyone.
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2021, 11:35 PM
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I'm assuming that this observation deck wouldn't be for hotel guest only, because why would they go through the trouble and cost of building it for a limited audience? Still, you never know with Extell. When you think about it, a 270 ft mast with an observation deck isn't really all that different than the 200 ft mast on top the Empire State Building with a deck at the top (besides overall proportion). It's all a matter of how it relates to the building. And that drawing isn't inspiring a lot of confidence, but we'll just have to see where it goes from here.
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If this were 2000 feet as a structure, one WTC would still retain its status as the tallest building. This should be built as New York’s first mega tall structure and finally take the tallest crown from Toronto.
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If this were 2000 feet as a structure, one WTC would still retain its status as the tallest building. This should be built as New York’s first mega tall structure and finally take the tallest crown from Toronto.
No it wouldn’t.
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If this were 2000 feet as a structure, one WTC would still retain its status as the tallest building. This should be built as New York’s first mega tall structure and finally take the tallest crown from Toronto.
1WTC is famously 1776’ tall, including mast.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2021, 12:51 AM
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Just a little more from the soil report. This is all subject to change a little, as Extell fills in the footprint.



















By the way, 30 Hudson is opening it's rooftop climbing attraction soon. I wonder if Extell would be open to some type of scaling excercise here...

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...2&postcount=42

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...5&postcount=50
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this thing sucks
Yes. Yes it does. At least that image does.
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Yes. Yes it does. At least that image does.
Lol. That is an understatement. Did they mention an architect anywhere? I know it says SLCE did the above massing image but they are typically the architect of record so I’m hoping Extell retains Foster or another starchitect team along those lines.
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Thing looks like a butter churn.
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Hmm...well its tall. Lets hope the skin that wraps this structure largely affects this massing. From my 3d model.











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Should have been the design for Penn 15

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The tower/observation deck needs to be of epic height to make an impact.. I'd say 1,600 to 2,000 feet.. so it looks down at the whole city.

Otherwise, it becomes one of the half dozen + observation decks in the city.. what makes it special.. def. not it's design to this point!
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2021, 1:31 PM
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Awesome renderings. We’ll see what the final plans look like, but that doesn’t cut it. Hopefully more plans are filed soon for the updated project.
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Great rendering work, but this somehow makes it look worse.

I suppose we can hope for a more refined look and good material. Then again, it's Times Square, so not holding my breath on either of those fronts.
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