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Old Posted Jul 11, 2017, 11:02 PM
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Chicago’s Magellan Group and the Australia-based Lendlease have partnered for this portion of the planned development. All three towers proposed for parcels I, J, and KL are designed by Chicago’s bKL Architecture.

The most dramatic of the three towers is the 80-story, 875’ tower planned for Site I on the northeastern edge of Lakeshore East. At the proposed height, the tower would be slightly taller than the 859-foot Aqua but would be considerably shorter than the 93-story Vista, which will stand at 1,186 feet when it is completed. However, the other two towers planned for site will be much shorter. The Site J tower will top out at 550’ or 50 stories while KL will rise to 438’ or 40 stories.

Described as an “iconic” addition to the Chicago skyline by bKL principal Tom Kerwin, the 80-story tower also features a similar modular appearance that is consistent with the other towers planned for the development. However, the tower’s width gradually expands as it gets taller, offering large floor plates and sweeping views of the city for upper floor residents.
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Old Posted Jul 11, 2017, 11:06 PM
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That sure does look taller than 875 feet...
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2017, 12:58 AM
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Nice specs.

1) Site I : 875'
2) Site J: 550'
3) Site KL: 438'

Always good when a trio of towers is planned. The more, the merrier. Although 80 floors could be stretched. Surprised its not a super tall.
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2017, 1:12 AM
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The tower looks good. Kind of like a tall Viceroy Hotel with balconies. In the high rise thread someone mentioned to punch holes in the Chandler to open up the new views, which is a good idea if they truly are not going to take advantage of that wall, but I'm sure that cost would not be covered by bKl or the developer of the new building.
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2017, 1:19 AM
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Symmetrical too comparing the L & R side. Looks like it draws the eye from Vista in the middle rendering in the OP.
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Neat, Chicago is about to be on fire
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Let's throw 125 extra feet on there, make it another supertall for Chicago
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I've looked at this again after taking a peak last night and again this morning. I really love the design. So many on this forum complain of a barrage of blue boxes being proposed. bKL has done a fair share of their boxes, although better than most. This is a slight departure from that and in a very high visibility area.

It'll be a great addition to the skyline, visible from nearly all directions. Between LSE-I and One Bennett Park, we're adding a significant amount of height to the lakefront. Now if 400 N LSD can peak out just over the tops of these two at 1,200-1,500 ft...
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2017, 2:09 AM
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Let's throw 125 extra feet on there, make it another supertall for Chicago
To make it a supertall we don't need 125 feet.

We only need 105 feet.

Maybe someone could make a decorative spire and donate it to the building 😊
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Neat, Chicago is about to be on fire
Chicago has always been on fire. Ever since 1871
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Is it out of the realm of possibility that they might be planning to squeeze a mid-rise building in between this and The Chandler's party wall someday down the line?
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Is it out of the realm of possibility that they might be planning to squeeze a mid-rise building in between this and The Chandler's party wall someday down the line?
There's actually a tiny separate lot between these two buildings. I checked the zoning because I thought it was strange also. See below:



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There's actually a tiny separate lot between these two buildings. I checked the zoning because I thought it was strange also.
Nice – I'll gladly take another 5-10 years of seeing The Chandler's party wall if it means they slip a narrow mid-rise in there. It's exactly the kind of granular development lacking in an area like LSE.
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^^lol!
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Damn. This is nice, I love how the building looks to get wider as it travels in height. And whatever Tetris/Jenga situation is going on with the balconies is a positive eye-grabber for me.

P.S. it makes me so happy how Vista is included in renderings. Soon.
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Seriously WTF bkl?
Why on earth would an architect be making design changes to a condo tower next door built many years ago?

If anything, direct the question to Magellan as to why they're not building a bustle. Presumably they and the architect decided a slim unadorned tower was best here. Then the question really is whether the neighboring condo association could be convinced to spend money to beautify their ugly wall, for the benefit of the new tower, and the neighborhood, and themselves. In fact, this render can work to put a little bit of pressure on the Chandler; any miscellaneous opposition they have to the new project could be alleviated by Magellan offering to kick in some money for ivy (or a mural of a sailboat?) to de-uglify their building. (I'm assuming there's no existing obligation for Magellan to address the blank wall.)
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Why on earth would an architect be making design changes to a condo tower next door built many years ago?

If anything, direct the question to Magellan as to why they're not building a bustle. Presumably they and the architect decided a slim unadorned tower was best here. Then the question really is whether the neighboring condo association could be convinced to spend money to beautify their ugly wall, for the benefit of the new tower, and the neighborhood, and themselves. In fact, this render can work to put a little bit of pressure on the Chandler; any miscellaneous opposition they have to the new project could be alleviated by Magellan offering to kick in some money for ivy (or a mural of a sailboat?) to de-uglify their building. (I'm assuming there's no existing obligation for Magellan to address the blank wall.)
Huh? Nobody was suggesting bkl should be making design changes to the chandler. My comment was about the design ignoring it's context and not utilizing the party wall.
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Huh? Nobody was suggesting bkl should be making design changes to the chandler. My comment was about the design ignoring it's context and not utilizing the party wall.
That's even more unrealistic. It would be like telling Cesar Pelli's firm to make Wolf Point reflect the context of the Apparel Mart. (Coincidentally, it solved its blank wall problems by punching out hundreds of windows.) Here, the architect was tasked with designing a trophy tower at the mouth of the river, the final piece of LSE, likely destined for the marketing name of "300 North Lake Shore Drive", as the last skyscraper that will ever be built along the lake near downtown (other than NWU selling its land and a theoretical teardown of the W or 540), so the obligation to pay homage to a blank wall on a squat ten year old condo nearby that looks like it was designed in the front seat of an impala while waiting for cheesecake factory takeout in the woodfield mall parking lot is rather close to zero. Sure, there would be ways to include a decent bustle or base or podium in the design, but they decided the best impact would be a slender, unadorned design. Keep in mind that marketing brochures and other imagery of the building trying to sell 7 and 8 figure condo units can present it as a standalone jewel this way rather than as just another tower glued onto neighborhood buildings. The far easier solution is a mural or ivy or punching out windows in the old building.
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That's even more unrealistic. It would be like telling Cesar Pelli's firm to make Wolf Point reflect the context of the Apparel Mart. (Coincidentally, it solved its blank wall problems by punching out hundreds of windows.) Here, the architect was tasked with designing a trophy tower at the mouth of the river, the final piece of LSE, likely destined for the marketing name of "300 North Lake Shore Drive", as the last skyscraper that will ever be built along the lake near downtown (other than NWU selling its land and a theoretical teardown of the W or 540), so the obligation to pay homage to a blank wall on a squat ten year old condo nearby that looks like it was designed in the front seat of an impala while waiting for cheesecake factory takeout in the woodfield mall parking lot is rather close to zero. Sure, there would be ways to include a decent bustle or base or podium in the design, but they decided the best impact would be a slender, unadorned design. Keep in mind that marketing brochures and other imagery of the building trying to sell 7 and 8 figure condo units can present it as a standalone jewel this way rather than as just another tower glued onto neighborhood buildings. The far easier solution is a mural or ivy or punching out windows in the old building.
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