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Originally Posted by Quixote
What does GDP per capita have anything to do with the absurd costs of building public transit in this country? A 6-mile, 4-stop (one above ground) extension totaling $12.2 billion when it was once projected to be a still-pricey $4.7 billion clearly shows that real progress is an uphill battle compared to everywhere else. The BART extension will cost roughly $2 billion per mile, or $1.25 billion per kilometer. To put that into perspective, Paris builds subways at $400 million per mile, or $250 million per kilometer. In Germany, subway (not just rapid transit, but actual tunnels) construction costs a little less than $500 million per mile.
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There are at least four glaring problems with this analogy.
First, SF Bay Area GDP per capita is more than double that of Berlin. Labor is the biggest expense by far.
Second, those numbers for Germany are for previously scoped and completed projects, whereas the SF project is a future project, that has to account for and predict inflation in cost of labor for five to ten years from today.
Third, Berlin and Paris are capitols of their respective countries, whereas SF gets overlooked by Washington DC, which has to govern many metros like NY, LA, Chicago, Houston, etc.
Finally, the Bay Area is in an earthquake zone, and Germany is not.
For these reasons, and others I am sure, the projects cannot be directly compared. Is it better for that $12b to be sitting in wealthy people's investment accounts, or is it better to have it immediately reinvested in local middle class jobs to complete the region's public transit needs?