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Old Posted Mar 9, 2022, 9:09 PM
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2022, 2:24 AM
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354 N Union

Quick shot from the 56 bus. This view has certainly changed vs 4-5 years ago! 354 N Union coming along nicely while 345 N Morgan framing visible in the distance.



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Old Posted Mar 10, 2022, 3:01 AM
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Great video highlighting the West Loop, but man It sure had a "SodoSopa" vibe to it lol.
Oh man I first listened to it without sound. Totally a "Sodosopa" Vibe haha
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142 W Erie is somehow still not finished (???) I believe One Chicago finished in a shorter timeframe than this building




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Old Posted Mar 10, 2022, 9:54 PM
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2022, 5:50 PM
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Virtual Community Meeting For 170 North Green Street

Please join 27th Ward Alderman Walter Burnett Jr. and the West Loop Community Organization (WLCO) for a virtual community meeting regarding 170 North Green Street: a mixed-use project including office, hotel, retail/commercial uses and up to 275 residential units in a multi-level building with a height of approximately 36 stories.

The developer will present its plans and and answer any questions you may have about the project.

Wednesday, March 23, 2022
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2022, 9:59 PM
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Wow, community meetings are still held virtually?
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Wow, community meetings are still held virtually?
Is it a bad thing though? Logistically speaking, there might be a number of people who cannot physically make some meetings but a virtual meeting might be easier for them to actually be able to make it. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Too many of these meetings seem to be dominated by a vocal minority. Getting more people attending might be a good thing sometimes?
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Wow, community meetings are still held virtually?
I'd rather be home on my computer listening to the presentation and submitting ideas vs being in a room of full of rabid NIMBY's.

Though that can be fun too, especially when you know you've pissed them off.
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I just think that it’s actually a great way to suppress NIMBYs. So probably a good thing for developers.

But I suspect that it’s a poor way to keep public officials accountable. Call me “old fashioned”, but sometimes they should be forced to face their constituents in person, that’s all.

Anyway, if it keeps getting projects approved, I could care less. It’s not like I reside in those wards, so not my problem
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I just think that it’s actually a great way to suppress NIMBYs. So probably a good thing for developers.

But I suspect that it’s a poor way to keep public officials accountable. Call me “old fashioned”, but sometimes they should be forced to face their constituents in person, that’s all.

Anyway, if it keeps getting projects approved, I could care less. It’s not like I reside in those wards, so not my problem
As you already know, people who go to in-person meetings are not representative of the community. They are the wealthiest, oldest, and often the whitest people in a particular Ward. These people don't have to work long hours and hustle, they have plenty of time on their hands, and they have very particular opinions that don't always reflect everyone else.

Online meetings aren't a perfect solution - you still need time on your hands and a computer with internet connection - but the barriers to attendance are way lower, so more of the community can participate. It probably doesn't help the poorest community members, but if you're a middle-class parent with kids, no way are you getting a babysitter so you can go to some community meeting. That means you don't get a voice in those decisions either. But you can plop the kids by the TV and log onto a Zoom meeting, and if you have to step away to take care of something, it's no big deal.
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As you already know, people who go to in-person meetings are not representative of the community. They are the wealthiest, oldest, and often the whitest people in a particular Ward. These people don't have to work long hours and hustle, they have plenty of time on their hands, and they have very particular opinions that don't always reflect everyone else.

Online meetings aren't a perfect solution - you still need time on your hands and a computer with internet connection - but the barriers to attendance are way lower, so more of the community can participate. It probably doesn't help the poorest community members, but if you're a middle-class parent with kids, no way are you getting a babysitter so you can go to some community meeting. That means you don't get a voice in those decisions either. But you can plop the kids by the TV and log onto a Zoom meeting, and if you have to step away to take care of something, it's no big deal.
As a bonus, the shittiest of NIMBYs might not be able to figure out how to unmute themselves.
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In case y'all want some fun Sunday reading, Madigan's indictment is related to a fizzled 30 story hotel at Archer & Wentworth.

Madigan’s Chinatown ‘scheme’
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/3/...peaker-chicago
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Talking about Chinatown, any news on the redevelopment of that massive parking by the Chinatown red line station? Put a garage there with retail at the bottom or apartments.
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^ The lots are owned by the state, and the 30 story hotel would of taken up one of the parking lots
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In case y'all want some fun Sunday reading, Madigan's indictment is related to a fizzled 30 story hotel at Archer & Wentworth.

Madigan’s Chinatown ‘scheme’
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/3/...peaker-chicago
I'm glad he's been taken down - even if that parking lot hasn't been developed (sad face). It's just crazy how many deals there are seemingly involving him and property tax appeals for his law firm. Well I won't say anymore about some things but hopefully there can be some changes implemented with a few people getting out of power.

Or maybe I'm way too optimistic.
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It's a shame that the Chinatown powers-that-be and IDOT are so opposed to developing those parking lots. If they managed to stop the almighty Madigan from selling off the land, I don't think anyone else will be able to do it. We're likely stuck with those parking lots for another generation at least.

Obviously the backroom dealing here is problematic and there should be a fair/open process, but it's so idiotic to have a major (and busy) CTA station on the edge of downtown that is surrounded by parking lots. Put all that parking in a single big garage and let somebody build densely on the land that is freed up.
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