Will Asian American immigration (like Hispanics did in the 2000s) peak/slow soon?

[RST500]

Asian growth by cities in the 2010s from recent census.

New York City:
China - 84,400
India - 68,175
Bangladesh - 50,562
Uzbekistan - 12,860
Pakistan - 8,424

San Francisco:
India - 70,580
China - 34,080
Afghanistan - 12,187
Vietnam - 9,043
Nepal - 6,446

Los Angeles:
China - 78,724
Philippines - 27,324
India - 25,615
Iran - 10,888
Afghanistan - 4,002

Dallas/Fort Worth:
India - 73,631
China - 27,996
Nepal - 17,041
Philippines - 11,361
Pakistan - 8,609


Seattle/Tacoma:
China - 49,739
India - 48,321
Philippines - 6,133
Pakistan - 5,358
Vietnam - 4,196

Houston:
India - 29,395
Philippines - 17,743
China - 16,304
Vietnam - 15,740
Iraq - 11,347

Washington DC:
India - 31,094
China - 20,349
Afghanistan - 16,388
Pakistan - 7,600
Vietnam - 6,246

San Jose:
China - 50,250
India - 45,224
Vietnam - 10,663
Taiwan - 4,393
Philippines - 2,923


Chicago:
India - 21,757
China - 20,029
Pakistan - 8,963
Jordan - 6,037
Japan - 5,504


Atlanta:
India - 43,042
Vietnam - 15,558
China - 8,537
Iraq - 5,919
Philippines - 2,956

Boston:
China - 38,779
India - 20,799
Bangladesh - 3,210
Philippines - 3,131
Vietnam - 2,959


Philadelphia:
India - 23,336
China - 16,252
Pakistan - 6,195
Philippines - 3,403
Bangladesh - 1,693


Riverside:
China - 20,751
Philippines - 12,295
India - 5,837
Vietnam - 4,514
Syria - 3,533

Detroit:
India - 20,958
Bangladesh - 13,596
Iraq - 13,405
Lebanon - 5,136
Yemen - 4,006

Minneapolis/St. Paul:
India - 12,205
Thailand - 4,618
Laos - 3,339
Burma - 2,295
Philippines - 2,127


San Diego:
China - 10,471
India - 10,332
Vietnam - 7,410
Philippines - 5,043
Korea - 4,320

Phoenix:
India - 27,895
Philippines - 10,631
Iraq - 3,486
Burma - 2,716
Vietnam - 1,939

Baltimore:
Nepal - 6,359
India - 6,203
China - 2,476
Pakistan - 1,887
Bangladesh - 1,729


Sacramento:
Afghanistan - 15,242
India - 14,389
China - 13,823
Vietnam - 10,008
Philippines - 4,916

Austin:
India - 22,031
China - 5,388
Iraq - 2,467
Nepal - 1,936
Iran - 1,844

Las Vegas:
Philippines - 21,707
China - 5,626
Vietnam - 4,474
India - 3,056
Japan - 1,746


Portland, OR:
China - 8,853
India - 5,783
Korea - 3,816
Philippines - 3,482
Vietnam - 1,591



Charlotte:
India - 19,551
China - 5,993
Vietnam - 3,837
Philippines - 2,388
Indonesia - 2,168


Indianapolis:
Burma - 9,078
India - 6,183
China - 1,256
Philippines - 955
Japan - 880


Orlando:
China - 7,645
Vietnam - 5,620
India - 4,217
Philippines - 3,291
Pakistan - 2,045


Denver:
India - 9,492
China - 4,703
Vietnam - 1,864
Nepal - 1,488
Iraq - 1,450


Raleigh:
India - 15,556
China - 3,310
Nepal - 1,400
Vietnam - 883
Philippines - 581


Columbus, OH:
India - 15,034
China - 7,492
Nepal - 3,630
Jordan - 1,508
Philippines - 1,069


Miami/Fort Lauderdale:
Israel - 4,226
Bangladesh - 3,534
Pakistan - 3,408
Vietnam - 2,701
India - 2,202


Tampa:
India - 10,522
China - 4,329
Philippines - 2,551
Nepal - 2,289
Pakistan - 1,520

St. Louis:
China - 4,821
India - 4,776
Philippines - 1,905
Vietnam - 1,472
Syria - 984

Cincinnati:
India - 6,688
China - 3,393
Nepal - 1,260
Jordan - 374
Iran - 249


San Antonio:
India - 4,429
Philippines - 3,468
Iraq - 2,383
Afghanistan - 1,985
China - 1,957


Nashville:
India - 5,428
Iraq - 2,803
China - 1,912
Burma - 1,846
Korea - 1,286


Milwaukee:
India - 4,903
Burma - 2,978
China - 1,633
Thailand - 1,605
Saudi Arabia - 1,082


Kansas City:
India - 4,133
Burma - 2,262
China - 1,655
Thailand - 1,426
Iraq - 1,150


Salt Lake City:
India - 3,729
China - 1,716
Philippines - 1,183
Vietnam - 1,081
Iraq - 975



Oklahoma City:
Vietnam - 3,403
China - 1,579
India - 1,578
Pakistan - 590
Laos - 307


Providence:
India - 5,573
China - 2,729
Japan - 289
Pakistan - 239
Taiwan - 156



Fresno:
India - 5,198
Yemen - 847
China - 824
Philippines - 552
Pakistan - 377


Des Moines:
Burma - 2,294
India - 2,045
Iraq - 968
Philippines - 856
Thailand - 811


Omaha:
Burma - 2,347
India - 1,789
Thailand - 1,760
Nepal - 1,382
Philippines - 379


Richmond:
India - 5,490
Afghanistan - 1,024
Philippines - 983
Pakistan - 911
Vietnam - 862


Grand Rapids:
India - 1,655
China - 1,437
Burma - 1,288
Laos - 1,019
Philippines - 947


Hartford:
India - 7,943
China - 1,954
Sri Lanka - 531
Bangladesh - 463
Nepal - 150


Buffalo:
Bangladesh - 2,055
Iraq - 1,620
Burma - 1,415
Thailand - 704
Pakistan - 646

Jacksonville:
Philippines - 2,560
India - 2,285
China - 2,092
Burma - 1,677
Iraq - 1,162

[Crawford]

Can you clarify the above? Is this net Asian population growth, by ancestry reported, by MSA, for 2010-2020? Some of the numbers seem intuitively off.

[RST500]

Originally Posted by Crawford

Can you clarify the above? Is this net Asian population growth, by ancestry reported, by MSA, for 2010-2020? Some of the numbers seem intuitively off.

New immigrants.

[RST500]

Here is Asian Growth from 2010-2019 by MSA:

New York: 317,182
San Francisco: 260,025
Los Angeles: 244,579
Dallas/Fort Worth: 211,667
Seattle/Tacoma: 185,405
Houston: 168,903
Washington DC: 133,951
San Jose: 120,710
Chicago: 117,620
Atlanta: 109,566
Boston: 104,138
Philadelphia: 77,039
Riverside: 68,411
Detroit: 63,886
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 63,867
San Diego: 63,389
Phoenix: 59,156
Baltimore: 51,699
Sacramento: 50,541
Austin: 47,233
Las Vegas: 46,493
Portland, OR: 46,135
Charlotte: 38,957
Indianapolis: 38,580
Orlando: 36,304
Denver: 32,876
Raleigh: 32,234
Columbus, OH: 31,595
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 27,146
Tampa: 26,980
St. Louis: 20,510
Cincinnati: 20,461
San Antonio: 19,641
Nashville: 17,826
Milwaukee: 15,319
Kansas City: 15,183
Salt Lake City: 15,132
Jacksonville: 12,751
Buffalo: 12,524
Richmond: 11,596
Virginia Beach: 10,655
Cleveland: 9,741
Louisville: 7,557
Oklahoma City: 7,463
Providence: 4,826
New Orleans: 4,697
Memphis: 4,664
Pittsburgh: 2,826
Birmingham: 2,264

[RST500]

East Asian Growth (Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and Hong Kong)
New York City: 59,439
Los Angeles: 57,007
Seattle/Tacoma: 55,927
San Jose: 46,760
Boston: 38,135
San Francisco: 28,180
Dallas/Fort Worth: 27,864
Chicago: 24,318
Riverside: 21,648
San Diego: 17,660
Houston: 15,540
Sacramento: 14,589
Portland, OR: 12,754
Washington DC: 12,684
Philadelphia: 11,515
Denver: 7,878
Austin: 7,056
Atlanta: 6,518
Columbus, OH: 6,353
Charlotte: 6,081
Detroit: 5,758
Phoenix: 5,752
Tampa: 5,377
Las Vegas: 4,582
Orlando: 4,565
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 3,006
Baltimore: 2,223
Minneapolis/St. Paul:

[RST500]

South Asian Growth (the Indian Subcontinent, Iran, Kazakhstan, Nepal, and Uzbekistan):

New York: 152,382
Dallas/Fort Worth: 103,303
San Francisco: 93,334
Seattle/Tacoma: 58,337
Washington DC: 56,998
San Jose: 53,640
Los Angeles: 51,788
Atlanta: 50,192
Houston: 42,804
Detroit: 42,309
Chicago: 39,459
Philadelphia: 38,608
Phoenix: 30,291
Sacramento: 28,528
Austin: 26,700
Columbus, OH: 26,379
Charlotte: 24,641
Boston: 21,945
Baltimore: 19,501
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 16,679
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 15,556
Tampa: 14,506
San Diego: 12,162
Denver: 11,037
Orlando: 9,428
Portland, OR: 5,969
Riverside: 5,721
Las Vegas: 4,230
Providence: 3,933

[RST500]

Southeast Asian Growth (Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Burma, Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines, and Singapore):

Houston: 38,178
Las Vegas: 27,340
Dallas/Fort Worth: 23,866
Atlanta: 21,133
Riverside: 16,927
Los Angeles: 15,934
San Francisco: 15,022
Phoenix: 13,125
San Diego: 12,775
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 11,717
Seattle/Tacoma: 10,773
San Jose: 10,723
Sacramento: 9,416
New York City: 8,959
Orlando: 8,494
Charlotte: 7,520
Chicago: 6,858
Washington DC: 5,793
Austin: 5,738
Tampa: 5,460
Portland, OR: 3,794
Boston: 3,277
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 1,600
Columbus, OH: 1,269
Providence: 949
Denver: -310
Philadelphia: -846
Baltimore: -1,178
Detroit: -3,713

[RST500]

West Asian Growth (Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Turkey, and Armenia)
Detroit: 32,704
Washington DC: 11,370
Houston: 9,972
Atlanta: 9,949
Los Angeles: 9,915
Chicago: 9,680
Tampa: 8,838
Dallas/Fort Worth: 7,230
Sacramento: 7,102
New York City: 7,100
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 7,008
Philadelphia: 6,161
San Francisco: 5,835
San Jose: 5,806
Phoenix: 5,326
Seattle/Tacoma: 5,215
Austin: 5,111
Charlotte: 4,595
Denver: 4,250
Portland, OR: 4,316
Riverside: 3,606
Las Vegas: 2,740
Columbus, OH: 2,480
Baltimore: 2,129
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 1,091
Orlando: 564
San Diego: 530
Providence: -189
Boston: -2,516

[Crawford]

Kinda weird how Detroit has more South Asian growth than even Chicago, but its East Asian growth is pathetic.

Metro Detroit attracts a ton of Indians, but surprisingly few Chinese or East Asians.

Also, Cleveland and Pittsburgh have barely any Asian immigration. You'd think all the major universities and medical centers would drive some growth.

[RST500]

Summery:

Chinese
NYC
LA
Bay Area
Seattle
Boston

India
DFW
Bay Area
NYC
Seattle
Atlanta

Pakistan
Chicago
NYC
DFW
Houston

Philippines
LA
Las Vegas
Houston

Afghanistan
Washington DC
Bay Area
Sacramento

Iraq
Detroit
Houston

Vietnam
Houston
Atlanta

Nepal
DFW

Burma
Indianapolis

Uzbekistan
NYC

Iran
LA

Lebanon
Detroit

[RST500]

Originally Posted by Crawford

Kinda weird how Detroit has more South Asian growth than even Chicago, but its East Asian growth is pathetic.

Metro Detroit attracts a ton of Indians, but surprisingly few Chinese.

Dallas surpassed the Bay Area for 2nd place for South Asian growth... Also not much Chinese immigration to the Sunbelt other than Dallas.

[Crawford]

Yeah, Dallas has crazy South Asian growth. I had no idea Dallas was getting such huge Asian numbers, leaving Houston and especially Atlanta in the dust.

It looks like a South Asian "Big 3" is developing. NY-NJ, Bay Area, and the Metroplex.

[proghousehead]

Originally Posted by RST500

Summery:

Chinese
NYC
LA
Bay Area
Seattle
Boston

India
DFW
Bay Area
NYC
Seattle
Atlanta

Pakistan
Chicago
NYC
DFW
Houston

Philippines
LA
Las Vegas
Houston

Afghanistan
Washington DC
Bay Area
Sacramento

Iraq
Detroit
Houston

Vietnam
Houston
Atlanta

Nepal
DFW

Burma
Indianapolis

Uzbekistan
NYC

Iran
LA

Lebanon
Detroit

Bangladesh? And this is based on census 2020 or estimates?

[Urbanguy]

I think that the numbers will probably look a bit different when the official 2020 Census results are released and we can do a comparison with the 2010 Census.

[10023]

Aren’t the drivers and nature of Asian immigration to the US dramatically different from Mexican immigration?

I say Mexican rather than Hispanic or Latin American on purpose, because the nature and basis of immigration from, say, Brazil is obviously different as well. You can probably consider Central America along with Mexico however.

But what drove the massive immigration boom from Mexico in the 1990s was a dramatic disparity in job opportunities and wages for unskilled labor. Incidentally, there were economic studies that I read in business school that basically said this was a major enabler of the 90’s boom in the US, by keeping a lid on wage growth and inflation when otherwise the Fed would have needed to tighten monetary policy much earlier.

There is less disparity today, between the US and either Mexico or China/SE Asia. But my instinct is that, because of the vastly higher cost and logistical challenges of reaching the US from China as opposed to Mexico, those immigrants have always been “aiming higher” so to speak - seeking a better life and more opportunities, not just minimum wage work, and so a closing of the gap in say factory wage rates won’t have as pronounced an effect on the flow of immigrants.

[DCReid]

Originally Posted by RST500

Here is Asian Growth from 2010-2019 by MSA:

New York: 317,182
San Francisco: 260,025
Los Angeles: 244,579
Dallas/Fort Worth: 211,667
Seattle/Tacoma: 185,405
Houston: 168,903
Washington DC: 133,951
San Jose: 120,710
Chicago: 117,620
Atlanta: 109,566
Boston: 104,138
Philadelphia: 77,039
Riverside: 68,411
Detroit: 63,886
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 63,867
San Diego: 63,389
Phoenix: 59,156
Baltimore: 51,699
Sacramento: 50,541
Austin: 47,233
Las Vegas: 46,493
Portland, OR: 46,135
Charlotte: 38,957
Indianapolis: 38,580
Orlando: 36,304
Denver: 32,876
Raleigh: 32,234
Columbus, OH: 31,595
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 27,146
Tampa: 26,980
St. Louis: 20,510
Cincinnati: 20,461
San Antonio: 19,641
Nashville: 17,826
Milwaukee: 15,319
Kansas City: 15,183
Salt Lake City: 15,132
Jacksonville: 12,751
Buffalo: 12,524
Richmond: 11,596
Virginia Beach: 10,655
Cleveland: 9,741
Louisville: 7,557
Oklahoma City: 7,463
Providence: 4,826
New Orleans: 4,697
Memphis: 4,664
Pittsburgh: 2,826
Birmingham: 2,264

Can you compile immigrant growth from Africa by metro?

[RST500]

Originally Posted by DCReid

Can you compile immigrant growth from Africa by metro?

From 2018 Data:

Foreign Born in Africa:
New York - 322,051
Washington DC/Baltimore - 290,617
Minneapolis/St. Paul - 121,420
Boston/Providence - 121,220
Dallas/Fort Worth - 116,062
Atlanta - 108,061
Houston - 99,217
Los Angeles/Riverside - 99,149
Philadelphia - 80,122
Seattle/Tacoma - 64,250
San Francisco/San Jose - 61,731
Columbus, OH - 56,501
Chicago - 55,821
Phoenix - 30,503
Denver - 30,003
Las Vegas - 22,130
Portland, OR - 19,608
Miami/Fort Lauderdale - 19,142
San Diego - 17,109
Detroit - 16,330



Born in Eastern Africa:
Washington DC/Baltimore - 95,978
Minneapolis/St. Paul - 84,922
Seattle/Tacoma - 46,301
Dallas/Fort Worth - 42,836
Atlanta - 28,717
New York - 26,241
Boston/Providence - 26,004
Columbus, OH - 23,088
Los Angeles/Riverside - 22,234
San Francisco/San Jose - 22,491
Houston - 17,409
Las Vegas - 15,541
Denver - 14,117
Portland, OR - 12,993
Phoenix - 12,488
Philadelphia - 10,335
Chicago - 9,961
San Diego - 8,234
Detroit - 3,113
Miami/Fort Lauderdale - 2,567

Born in West Africa:
New York - 169,833
Washington DC/Baltimore - 122,418
Boston/Providence - 65,910
Houston - 55,412
Atlanta - 53,764
Philadelphia - 45,208
Dallas/Fort Worth - 35,778
Los Angeles/Riverside - 29,137
Chicago - 27,914
Minneapolis/St. Paul - 25,962
Columbus, OH - 20,727
San Francisco/Oakland - 14,297
Seattle/Tacoma - 7,070
Denver - 6,850
Miami/Fort Lauderdale - 6,234
Phoenix - 6,119
Detroit - 6,088
San Diego - 3,119
Portland, OR - 2,095
Las Vegas - 2,027


Born in Northern Africa:
New York - 85,021
Los Angeles/Riverside - 35,407
Washington DC/Baltimore - 28,394
Boston/Providence - 15,944
San Francisco/Oakland - 14,535
Philadelphia - 11,332
Dallas/Fort Worth - 10,679
Houston - 9,328
Chicago - 8,271
Atlanta - 7,892
Seattle/Tacoma - 6,237
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 5,970
Denver - 4,610
Phoenix - 4,609
Columbus, OH - 4,153
Detroit - 3,848
Minneapolis/St. Paul - 3,697
San Diego - 2,709
Las Vegas - 2,530
Portland, OR - 1,950

Born in Middle Africa:
Washington DC/Baltimore - 31,805
Dallas/Fort Worth - 15,297
New York - 13,088
Atlanta - 9,346
Houston - 9,008
Boston/Providence - 5,472
Chicago - 4,261
Minneapolis/St. Paul - 3,850
San Francisco/ San Jose - 3,535
Philadelphia - 3,159
Phoenix - 1,870
Denver - 1,704
Columbus, OH - 1,611
Los Angeles/Riverside - 1,468
Miami/Fort Lauderdale - 919
Detroit - 701
Seattle/Tacoma - 657
Las Vegas - 557
Portland, OR - 491
San Diego - 379

Born in Southern Africa:
Los Angeles/Riverside - 8,611
New York - 7,333
Washington DC/Baltimore - 5,310
San Francisco/Oakland - 4,552
Dallas/Fort Worth - 4,284
Atlanta - 3,782
Philadelphia - 3,246
Miami/For Lauderdale - 3,211
Boston/Providence - 3,107
Houston - 2,775
Seattle/Tacoma - 2,773
Phoenix - 2,482
Chicago - 2,030
Denver - 1,910
San Diego - 1,897
Minneapolis/St. Paul - 1,578
Detroit - 1,235
Portland, OR - 1,044
Las Vegas - 754
Columbus, OH - 246

African growth from 2013-2018:
New York: 50,740
Dallas/Fort Worth: 44,946
Washington DC: 39,383
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 38,665
Houston: 33,475
Atlanta: 28,062
Philadelphia: 18,237
Seattle: 14,736
Boston: 11,861
Los Angeles: 11,470
Chicago: -1,028

[RST500]

Fastest growing Asian population by Cities over 50k:



1. Dublin, CA (26% to 54%)
2. Sammamish, WA (19% to 36%)
3. Frisco, TX (10% to 26%)
4. Pleasanton, CA (23% to 39%)
5. Redmond, WA (25% to 41%)
6. San Ramon, CA (35% to 51%)
7. Fremont, CA (50% to 64%)

[mhays]

Sammamish and Redmond are Microsoft country.

[RST500]

Originally Posted by mhays

Sammamish and Redmond are Microsoft country.

Yes. I am not sure if Dublin is linked to one specific company, just lots of new construction and proximity to Silicon Valley. Assuming most Asian growth is directly linked to tech. I expect Dallas to lead in Asian growth this decade.