noirish Los Angeles - Page 1976

ScottyB · #**39501** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 6:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by JeffDiego

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal

And why would there be a "motorcycle officer" at that location?
And where is his motorcycle?

I believe I just found Officer Edwards' bike- in the possession of "Doris Young posing on a police motorcycle as publicity for the Police Relief Association ball at the Pasadena Civic Auditorium November 26, 1941. From note with negative, "Pasadena --- How would you like to be pinched by this lovely cop? [cringe] Selected as the most beautiful working girl in Pasadena, 21-year-old Doris Young, switchboard operator at Fletcher Aviation Corporation, will be the "belle of the ball" at the annual Police Relief Association ball in the Pasadena Civic Auditorium Wednesday (Nov. 26)".

Outfit not in compliance with Old Pasadena standards.....those shoes!

http://cdm15123.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/1355/rec/6

CityBoyDoug · #**39502** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 8:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by Lorendoc

Doesn't seem like there'd be much privacy:

Bing maps

Details:

LAT 3/31/37

There was only one Father Divine (George Baker). John the Revelator's attorney was Hugh McBeth, an African-American lawyer who was very active in various civil liberty and civil rights causes in the 30s and 40s.

For a wild ride, its hard to beat the life and times of Father Divine.
Rev. George Baker [aka Father Divine], and his wife shown here:

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GaylordWilshire · #**39503** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 12:45 PM**

Not totally convinced that the image above is 807 N Roxbury...very hard to get near the house on GSV. In fact, the camera skips by several houses between 801 and about 815...strange. Who lives in this forbidden stretch today?

ethereal_reality · #**39504** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 7:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Very hard to get near the house on GSV. In fact, the camera skips by several houses between 801 and about 815...strange.

Who lives in this forbidden stretch today?

Cult Mansion of "St. John the Revelator"

Bing_maps

Luckily, the Bing-Mobile didn't get the memo to avoid this stretch of Roxbury.
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And while we're on the subject.

Here's another image of Delight Jewitt.

http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...ilyNews%3A5967

Delight Jewett and U.S. Attorney Fleet Palmer in his office. The seventeen-year-old Delight Jewett, a follower of cult leader Father Divine, was to be a witness in the case
against fellow Divine follower John Wuest Hunt, who had molested Jewett under the pretense of immaculate conception.

Text from original nitrate sleeve: Jewett, Delight; Jewett, Norman; Palmer, Fleet -- US Atty., Handwritten annotation from nitrate negative: "Delight Jewett and Fleet Palmer"

update:

Here's one more pic for good measure.

http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...ilyNews%3A5966

Delight Jewett, her father Norman Jewett, and U.S. Attorney Fleet Palmer.

Anyone who can figure out the pic on the calendar gets to join me and Lorendoc at the Feed Rack for lunch.

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(to me...it looks like a cross between Gumby & a Tiki God) taking a bow

but I highly doubt that's correct.

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GaylordWilshire · #**39505** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 7:51 PM**

Thanks ER-- looks like a hint of the arch in the 1937 LAT image but there is some apparent remodeling--different windows at the nec. So if Bing can photograph the houses along this stretch of the 800 block of N Roxbury, why not GSV?

HossC · #**39506** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 8:05 PM**

This Julius Shulman photoset has an intriguing title, but failed to live up to it. It's "Job 2029: Miscellaneous Buildings: St. Alphonsus Church; Crown Zellerbach; Max Factor Co.; Bethlehem Steel Company, 1955". After promising four subjects, there are only two, and the Bethlehem Steel Company building looks like a collection of shipping containers (my opinion), so I'm just posting the church.

Here's a wider view.

Both from Getty Research Institute

St Alphonsus Catholic Church can still be found at 532 S Atlantic Boulevard. Only the small plants and lamppost seem to have changed.

GSV

AlvaroLegido · #**39507** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 8:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's another image of Delight Jewitt.

http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...ilyNews%3A5967
Delight Jewett and U.S. Attorney Fleet Palmer in his office. The seventeen-year-old Delight Jewett, a follower of cult leader Father Divine, was to be a witness in the case
against fellow Divine follower John Wuest Hunt, who had molested Jewett under the pretense of immaculate conception.
Text from original nitrate sleeve: Jewett, Delight; Jewett, Norman; Palmer, Fleet -- US Atty., Handwritten annotation from nitrate negative: "Delight Jewett and Fleet Palmer"
update:
Here's one more pic for good measure.

http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...ilyNews%3A5966
Delight Jewett, her father Norman Jewett, and U.S. Attorney Fleet Palmer.

The noirish view by the windows made me wish to locate this attorney's office. It would take me too much time compared to the NLA scholars. Well...

ethereal_reality · #**39508** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 8:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

Alphonsus Church,1955"

https://www.theeastsiderla.com/2014/...s-in-east-l-a/

Members Lifestyle Low Rider Car Club on Friday paid their last respects to a fallen member during a funeral service at St. Alphonsus Church on Atlantic Boulevard.
C.J. Salgado, who snapped the photo above, said there must have been about a 100 club members in attendance and the parking lot was full of lowriders.

Are those the cars that bounce up and down?

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ethereal_reality · #**39509** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 8:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido

The noirish view by the windows made me wish to locate this attorney's office. It would take me too much time compared to the NLA scholars. Well...

I had the same thought AlvaroLegido.

Let's go for it!

The Feed Rack is going to be standing room only by the end of the week.

CityBoyDoug · #**39510** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 8:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

https://www.theeastsiderla.com/2014/...s-in-east-l-a/

Members Lifestyle Low Rider Car Club on Friday paid their last respects to a fallen member during a funeral service at St. Alphonsus Church on Atlantic Boulevard.
C.J. Salgado, who snapped the photo above, said there must have been about a 100 club members in attendance and the parking lot was full of lowriders.

Are these the cars that bounce up and down?

That would have been one interesting funeral procession. (I wonder if they rigged the hearse to bounce up and down too)

https://www.theeastsiderla.com/2014/...s-in-east-l-a/

No, these aren't the crazy bouncing cars. The bouncing cars are usually just stock colors and the body is set high off the ground.
The cars by the church appear to be low rider custom cars.

http://static1.businessinsider.com/i...0084470034.jpg

HossC · #**39511** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 9:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's another image of Delight Jewitt.

http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...ilyNews%3A5967

Delight Jewett and U.S. Attorney Fleet Palmer in his office. The seventeen-year-old Delight Jewett, a follower of cult leader Father Divine, was to be a witness in the case
against fellow Divine follower John Wuest Hunt, who had molested Jewett under the pretense of immaculate conception.

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Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido

The noirish view by the windows made me wish to locate this attorney's office. It would take me too much time compared to the NLA scholars. Well...

I think Fleet Palmer was actually William Fleet Palmer Jr. There's a free page about his father, William Fleet Palmer, at ancestry.com. Maybe he used his middle name to distinguish himself from his father (like Lloyd Wright), or maybe it was to avoid confusion with contemporary superior court judge William J Palmer. The 1936 CD lists William F Palmer as an assistant US Attorney who was resident in Monrovia (which ties into the link above), but doesn't list a business address. The same CD lists M Hall Peirson as the US Attorney with an office at 508 Federal Building. Could the view be the from the Federal Building, looking across to the gasometers?

Earl Boebert · #**39512** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 9:21 PM**

Re: The "mystery" tower on the Iwata house:

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Originally Posted by Diamond-X

I believe what were looking at is a telescoping antenna support. My neighbor had one back in the '80s which he topped with a HAM radio antenna. There is a winch that you crank, raising and lowering the aerial which appears to be absent.

You nailed it. The 1993 Call Book for Ham operators lists Richard H. Iwata, 912 Summit Place, Monterey Park, CA 91754 as holding call sign W6NQO (since reassigned.) Born 1917, died 2000, previous address 129 S. Mathews St., Los Angeles. 33 Calif.

Cheers,

Earl

odinthor · #**39513** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 9:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

I think Fleet Palmer was actually William Fleet Palmer Jr. There's a free page about his father, William Fleet Palmer, at ancestry.com. Maybe he used his middle name to distinguish himself from his father (like Lloyd Wright), or maybe it was to avoid confusion with contemporary superior court judge William J Palmer. The 1936 CD lists William F Palmer as an assistant US Attorney who was resident in Monrovia (which ties into the link above), but doesn't list a business address. The same CD lists M Hall Peirson as the US Attorney with an office at 508 Federal Building. Could the view be the from the Federal Building, looking across to the gasometers?

Does this help?

odinthor collection (much enlarged detail from an image)

ethereal_reality · #**39514** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 9:31 PM**

Re: Iwata house tower:

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Originally Posted by Earl Boebert

You nailed it Diamond-X.

The 1993 Call Book for Ham operators lists Richard H. Iwata, 912 Summit Place, Monterey Park, CA 91754 as holding call sign W6NQO.)

Cheers,

Earl

That's what I call some excellent sleuthing Earl. (and Diamond-X)

See ya at the Feed Rack.

Blaster · #**39515** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 10:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Anyone who can figure out the pic on the calendar gets to join me and Lorendoc at the Feed Rack for lunch.

detail

(to me...it looks like a cross between Gumby & a Tiki God) taking a bow

but I highly doubt that's correct.

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A Native American man (or woman) and child, looking into a mountain lake?

ethereal_reality · #**39516** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 11:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

Could the view be the from the Federal Building, looking across to the gasometers?

I was going to say you're probably right Hoss.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...s_1940_Ref.jpg

I just realized there's a middle window hidden by a blind in the vintage photo. (I guess I was too busy lookin' at everything else in the room)

base.dupral

& unless I'm mistaken the windows in the federal Bldg are in pairs. (not in threes)

tovangar2 · #**39517** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 11:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Anyone who can figure out the pic on the calendar gets to join me and Lorendoc at the Feed Rack for lunch.

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Party of four pls. Blaster & I are gonna carpool over.

That's the Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe calendar image for 1937.

"Water Birds" by E. I. Couse:

qstation

HossC · #**39518** Posted **Feb 1, 2017, 11:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I was going to say you're probably right Hoss.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...s_1940_Ref.jpg

I just realized there's a middle window hidden by a blind in the vintage photo. (I guess I was too busy lookin' at everything else in the room)

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& unless I'm mistaken, the windows in the federal Bldg are in pairs, right?

Wasn't the old Post Office still known as the Federal building in early 1937? Fleet Palmer is in his office in April 1937, and by June 25, 1937 the old Post Office looked like this.

USC Digital Library

Here's a 1908 image for comparison. The rooms on the top floor have triple windows, and as the US Attorney's office was in 508 (from my earlier post), that was probably on the fifth floor.

USC Digital Library