Hot cities or cold cities; 4 seasons or no seasons; desert cities or green cities?

[homebucket]

^ Congrats to your nephew! UC Irvine is an excellent school.

[pj3000]

^ Not if you like summer...

[10023]

Yeah, high 60s is too cold to enjoy being outside to relax. Good for sports. It’s perfect for commuting and walking around in a suit, but I wouldn’t go for a picnic (let alone the beach) or even eat lunch outside until it’s in the 70s.

[The North One]

60's is too cold for summer weather and those are only peak temperatures. On a cloudy day that's gonna feel far too cold for a t-shirt.

If it was in the 70's I'd say yeah that's perfect.

[homebucket]

The inner East Bay (Oakland to Fremont) or mid Peninsula (San Mateo to Palo Alto) is the place to be for ideal summer time weather (mid 70s - low 80s) in the Bay Area. The South Bay (Sunnyvale to San Jose) or inland East Bay (Walnut Creek to Livermore) may be suitable to a lot of people as well but I find it too hot (mid 80s to low 90s). As others have mentioned, SF is a bit too chilly unless you're active outdoors.

[citywatch]

pro & cons, good & bad, ups & downs about every place, every town, every country, every climate....


https://youtu.be/mG12sVOv60w?t=279


https://youtu.be/3c-fczFp7Ms?t=42

[ChiSoxRox]

Fairbanks has a warmer high summer than you might expect, with 80s frequent in late June and early July.

However, as we move away from the solstice our solar angle is already dropping quickly and a stretch of cold rains have moved in from the Bering Strait.



I love this time of year, when the forest bursts into vivid greens from the cool rains.

[sopas ej]

Originally Posted by homebucket

^ Congrats to your nephew! UC Irvine is an excellent school.

Thanks! And yeah, UCI is a good school indeed.

[AviationGuy]

Originally Posted by JManc

^ it's been pretty dry in Houston. Hardly any rain for past 2-3 months and our yard is scorched.




The trees here ooze sap everywhere. Nature is trying to do in my car from all angles. We have seagulls everywhere and they shit every where.

I know Kingwood has been dry, but down in the city, there have been some good rains in July. Parts of the inner loop of Houston have been drenched a couple of times lately, including downtown. Memorial Park, unfortunately, has had only one decent rain in months. My sister lives in Cypress on the northwest side, and it's been dry like Kingwood. Up here in Austin, it's about as bad as 2011. Extreme drought.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by STEPH-BETTER

Nobody likes summer.

You speak for all 8 billion humans?

Plenty of people like summer.

Can't have a proper beach day without summer.

[AviationGuy]

Originally Posted by citywatch

I haven't been near coastal LA for the past few days, but the marine layer, & the cooler air that goes with that, apparently has been affecting the beaches. By contrast, inland LA has been sunny & very warm.


https://youtu.be/aw9qFFGPiNQ


^ For ppl into a resort type bch scene...as what you'd find in florida or the Mediterranean...the cooler ocean & upper level fog (or marine layer) of the Pacific isn't ideal. But for the rest of us further away from the coastline, it works like natural air conditioning.

I remember that in September 2020, Woodland Hills hit something like 118F and some other community nearby hit 121 F. It might have been Canoga Park. Now that was completely crazy.

[JManc]

Originally Posted by AviationGuy

I know Kingwood has been dry, but down in the city, there have been some good rains in July. Parts of the inner loop of Houston have been drenched a couple of times lately, including downtown. Memorial Park, unfortunately, has had only one decent rain in months. My sister lives in Cypress on the northwest side, and it's been dry like Kingwood. Up here in Austin, it's about as bad as 2011. Extreme drought.

Kingwood has had a few downpours but they are short lived and barely enough to soak the ground

[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by AviationGuy

I know Kingwood has been dry, but down in the city, there have been some good rains in July. Parts of the inner loop of Houston have been drenched a couple of times lately, including downtown. Memorial Park, unfortunately, has had only one decent rain in months. My sister lives in Cypress on the northwest side, and it's been dry like Kingwood. Up here in Austin, it's about as bad as 2011. Extreme drought.

Do Austin and Houston ever have droughts bad enough to get large CA type wildfires? Or do the woods retain enough soil moisture to avoid that? The last couple of years have been catastrophic in CA. A great number of giant sequoia trees have been destroyed in the Sierra. They used to be considered fairly safe from forest fires. No more. A couple of years ago a big wildfire in the normally moist Big Basin in the Santa Cruz Mountains burned many coast redwoods. This drought seems endless. Lake Mead may soon no longer be high enough to turn the electric dynamos, or send much water into the lower Colorado River. The southwest drought is a once in a Millennium event. If global warming continues, it may become the new normal.

[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by AviationGuy

I remember that in September 2020, Woodland Hills hit something like 118F and some other community nearby hit 121 F. It might have been Canoga Park. Now that was completely crazy.

I think that was the heat wave where Death Valley almost broke the old high temp record. Woodland Hills definitely is a summer hot spot. The Santa Monica Mountains to the south block the cool ocean air. About 10 miles across the mountains, it is often 65 degrees while Woodland Hills is over 100. In summer, Topanga Canyon and Malibu Canyon Roads are crowded with steaming West San Fernando Valley residents driving to the cool beach.

[craigs]

Originally Posted by CaliNative

In summer, Topanga Canyon and Malibu Canyon Roads are crowded with steaming West San Fernando Valley residents driving to the cool beach.

Huzzah!

[JManc]

Originally Posted by CaliNative

Do Austin and Houston ever have droughts bad enough to get large CA type wildfires? Or do the woods retain enough soil moisture to avoid that? The last couple of years have been catastrophic in CA. A great number of giant sequoia trees have been destroyed in the Sierra. They used to be considered fairly safe from forest fires. No more. A couple of years ago a big wildfire in the normally moist Big Basin in the Santa Cruz Mountains burned many coast redwoods. This drought seems endless. Lake Mead may soon no longer be high enough to turn the electric dynamos, or send much water into the lower Colorado River. The southwest drought is a once in a Millennium event. If global warming continues, it may become the new normal.

Austin more so than Houston but still fairly rare. Last major wildfire near Austin (Bastrop) was about 10 years ago. There were some other wildfires northeast of Dallas around same time. It's been so dry and hot this summer that much of the state is under wildfire warning.

[pico44]

Originally Posted by badrunner

This weekend it felt like summer is finally here. Yesterday it hit 85 at LAX - a new record - and 93 downtown, the first time it's gone above 90 this year. Overnight lows have been very cool though, in the low 60s, a little bit below average.

I’ve been in California for the last week with my wife while the kids are in camp and we had a pretty fantastic time. LA before it got warm, apparently; and up the coast to SanFran for more perfect weather up there. We both decided we are LA people. San Francisco is undeniably a great city and the surrounding scenery is head-and-shoulders-and-bellybutton above the deserty mountains surrounding LA, but it’s extremely uncool. There’s a funky swagger that I like very much, but there is no confusing that with the style of LA. We plan to snowbird there post-high school (still nine years away) for 8-10 weeks starting in mid-February. That way we get to enjoy winter in New York and leave before the burdensome weeks when winter won’t end. I’m sure we’ll spend a week or two in SF some summers for a heat respite, but Colorado or Maine or Hamptons works just as well for that

[citywatch]

Originally Posted by pico44

There’s a funky swagger that I like very much, but there is no confusing that with the style of LA.

Although the climate of the SF bay area gives many parts of it the same look & vibe of LA/socal, to me there's a more complete dynamic about the southern part of CA, which is captured in various vids by this person....


https://www.youtube.com/c/JSOCAL1


LA is like a combo of the resort type beach scene of the Mediterranean & the completeness of a larger city. That was less true in the past, before LA had what I describe as evolved over the past 20-30 yrs. But it admittedly also has some of the downsides of France's notorious 2nd largest city, the gritty port city of marseilles.

Some of what I describe as the vibe of LA is what's shown in this vid...you get fancy places like this in southern france & southern spain too, but they don't look out over a city hosting millions of ppl.


https://youtu.be/df_ACNm5Cjc?t=844

[LA21st]

Originally Posted by 10023

Yeah, high 60s is too cold to enjoy being outside to relax. Good for sports. It’s perfect for commuting and walking around in a suit, but I wouldn’t go for a picnic (let alone the beach) or even eat lunch outside until it’s in the 70s.

It literally says mid 70s.
And 70s in the sun is hot.

I'm sure people in Florida are enjoying their 100 degree heat indexes.
*checks social media
Nooope

Everyone is crying like usual and waiting for October. Seems fun!

[LA21st]

Originally Posted by CaliNative

Do Austin and Houston ever have droughts bad enough to get large CA type wildfires? Or do the woods retain enough soil moisture to avoid that? The last couple of years have been catastrophic in CA. A great number of giant sequoia trees have been destroyed in the Sierra. They used to be considered fairly safe from forest fires. No more. A couple of years ago a big wildfire in the normally moist Big Basin in the Santa Cruz Mountains burned many coast redwoods. This drought seems endless. Lake Mead may soon no longer be high enough to turn the electric dynamos, or send much water into the lower Colorado River. The southwest drought is a once in a Millennium event. If global warming continues, it may become the new normal.

There's a 4,000 acre fire in Texas right now.