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Old Posted Dec 13, 2021, 6:05 PM
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I know this is even further off topic, but… is it crazy to think that the riverwalk could be a great ice skating spot when the river freezes over? I looked it up and skating on the river used to be a thing. I can imagine skating from Lincoln Yards to the wild mile.
Lol. So like a midwestern Elfstedentocht? Not going to happen but I love the creativity.
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345 N.Morgan begs to differ but yes, this is fantastic.
Ha, I'll wait until it's done but it's weird that their headquarters seems to be one of their least attractive recent properties.
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Ha, I'll wait until it's done but it's weird that their headquarters seems to be one of their least attractive recent properties.
345 is decent infill, don't know why everybody hates it. It's in a pretty discreet spot so I wasn't expecting some phenomenal design or whatever. Has retail, decent height, and is a mix of apartments and offices.
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345 is decent infill, don't know why everybody hates it. It's in a pretty discreet spot so I wasn't expecting some phenomenal design or whatever. Has retail, decent height, and is a mix of apartments and offices.
This one? https://sterlingbay.com/properties/345-north-morgan/

I don't think it has any apartments.
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This one? https://sterlingbay.com/properties/345-north-morgan/

I don't think it has any apartments.
I've always laughed at the forest (actual brownsite) in that rendering. This building would be much better at twice the height and with a few setbacks
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Ha, I'll wait until it's done but it's weird that their headquarters seems to be one of their least attractive recent properties.
I'm pretty sure 333 Green St has been done for a while at this point. Not very eyepopping but it's at least contributed towards re-stitching the urban fabric between Fulton and Kinzie streets.

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345 is decent infill, don't know why everybody hates it. It's in a pretty discreet spot so I wasn't expecting some phenomenal design or whatever. Has retail, decent height, and is a mix of apartments and offices.
Rivernorthlurker's correct here in that it's only office.
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2021, 4:45 AM
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I'm pretty sure 333 Green St has been done for a while at this point. Not very eyepopping but it's at least contributed towards re-stitching the urban fabric between Fulton and Kinzie streets.



Rivernorthlurker's correct here in that it's only office.
Yeah that's true. I like the kinetic wall of 333 though - it a nice embellishment but hard to appreciate in photos. The building has a nice 'weight' to it too.

345 is nothing bad, but looks a little unfinished to me - both inside and out. It's kind of like they said, 'since we're going to lease this ourselves we can just crank this out and not have to worry about it's leasability.' The 'accelerated timeline' of 13 months I think supports that. I actually like the theme but wish they kinda committed to it a little further.

https://www.skender.com/news-media-i...fulton-market/

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“Skender is proud to be a part of the team that will bring 345 N Morgan to completion on an accelerated timeline. COVID-19 has caused countless development delays and disruptions across Chicago, but this project will deliver in just over a year – that’s a significant accomplishment even by pre-pandemic standards,” said Justin Brown, President & CEO, Skender. “We understand the high level of integration that this project demands and are committed to executing the seamless, collaborative and efficient process for which Skender is known.”
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This rendering is a bit more flattering than the latest one I had seen. I guess its best to reserve judgement. SB has not let me down yet. Sorry for derailing the thread
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The balconies are killing me. On the right they're beautifully integrated to create a neat design element, but on the right they're just stuck on.
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From the LY open house. The buildings you notice outside the LY boundaries are pieces of land SB owns and are just density placeholder potentials.









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That's an awesome model! We can only hope that over the next decade we get a buildout that comes close to looking like that layout.
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so many parking podiums
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A courtesy presentation is being given on two highrises for January's Plan Commission agenda. The first tower will be a 19 story, 225 ft office building with...a 1,000 person venue and a 3,500 person venue! To give context, the Chicago Theater holds 3,600 people. The second tower is residential and will stand 15 stories, 223 ft.
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so many parking podiums
Not all podiums are created equal. If the podiums double with retail etc (which I imagine they will with some grocery, convenience stores etc here), then I think they can actually enhance the street feel of a neighborhood. Depends on execution. I have faith on what I've seen from renders.
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Old Posted Dec 30, 2021, 7:59 AM
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A courtesy presentation is being given on two highrises for January's Plan Commission agenda. The first tower will be a 19 story, 225 ft office building with...a 1,000 person venue and a 3,500 person venue! To give context, the Chicago Theater holds 3,600 people. The second tower is residential and will stand 15 stories, 223 ft.
Will be interested when they actually start construction on the actual landmark buildings like these (not that boring suburban life science building they just broke construction on), infrastructure, or the parks.
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A courtesy presentation is being given on two highrises for January's Plan Commission agenda. The first tower will be a 19 story, 225 ft office building with...a 1,000 person venue and a 3,500 person venue! To give context, the Chicago Theater holds 3,600 people. The second tower is residential and will stand 15 stories, 223 ft.
Interesting... I'm not sure there's a market for another venue of this size in Chicago, but LVDW might know more than me. Seems like that could also create transportation issues, although it will be (sort of) walkable to Clybourn for the suburbanites.
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Interesting... I'm not sure there's a market for another venue of this size in Chicago, but LVDW might know more than me. Seems like that could also create transportation issues, although it will be (sort of) walkable to Clybourn for the suburbanites.
I mean the market for that size range is always crowded. It's been less crowded since Congress was shuttered, but this basically just gurantees Congress will never open again since there will be multiple venues in that size range competing for a finite number of acts.

Of course there's always the possibility that Chicago's music scene just explodes in size/scale/variety, but we haven't been that market since the 50s or 60s when Jazz was gradually pushed aside by rock and roll.

It also depends on the configuration of the venue. If it's 100% seated all the time, it doesn't really compete with venues like what Congress used to be or what Aragon is. Certain acts won't do standing room only and others won't do seated.

I suppose that the legions of gentry that have piled into downtown could be driving new demand that Sterling Bay is aware of and trying to capture. A few hundred thousand new yuppies in a decade could buy a shit ton of tickets.
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