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No, the whole Casino needs to go somewhere else. Gambling is a disease and should not be encouraged or rewarded.
totally agree, but that morality ship has sailed.
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Related and Amtrak should also double track the Empire Tunnel as part of this project as well.
That's been discussed in other threads in the past. It's unclear from an engineering standpoint whether that's even possible. If someone has it in with some engineer high up at Amtrak or MTA please pass on the question. It does seem like an obvious need, especially so when future Hudson Line M-N trains will use the West Side Line to reach Penn as part of the second phase Penn Station Access.
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So, if they don't get the casino bid, will the tallest tower be shortened because they won't need the large base?

If they don’t get the bid, they just revert back to the already approved site plan.



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No, the whole Casino needs to go somewhere else. Gambling is a disease and should not be encouraged or rewarded.
LOL, this reads as satire. But I’ll assume you are serious. One thing that pisses me off is when the morality police try to push their beliefs off on everyone. It’s fine to disagree with gambling and casinos. But the solution is simple. DON’T GO TO ONE. There are people who don’t like drinking, and don’t go into bars. And you know what? They’re happy they don’t. New York gets Billions in it’s budget from casinos, money largely put into its schools and other important needs of the public. It would be as foolish to outlaw casinos as it was to outlaw drinking a century ago.
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"If they don’t get the bid, they just revert back to the already approved site plan."

I thought that I heard somewhere that they wanted to emphasize more office space on this second phase compared to residential, since the office portion of phase 1 was more successful.
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"If they don’t get the bid, they just revert back to the already approved site plan."

I thought that I heard somewhere that they wanted to emphasize more office space on this second phase compared to residential, since the office portion of phase 1 was more successful.

They do. But that would be another approval. The approval this time is for the scenario laid out. The alternative is for the purposes of the study. IF they do not get the license, it just reverts to what it is now.
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Meanwhile, the "box" for the new tunnel/rail entrance is under construction. This is on the site where the school (under any scenario) and the office tower would be located.



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Thanks! We may eventually get to see what's planned for the Affirmation Tower site, if Hochul remembers it's still there.

But these designs and renders are good.


An idea of what was planned before. What they refer to as 6 towers was really 8. It was planned that two of the sites would have towers sharing a podium.







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