Time: World's Greatest Places for 2022

[iheartthed]

Time's annual Greatest Places list for 2022. I parsed out cities and towns and grouped by continent:

Africa
Nairobi
Franschhoek, South Africa
Kigali, Rwanda

Asia
Ahmedabad, India
Doha, Qatar
Kerala, India
Ras Al Khaimah, UAE
Seoul

Europe
Copenhagen
Devon, England
Dolni Morava, Czech Republic
Istanbul
Kaunas, Lithuania
Marseilles
Portree, Scotland
Skelleftea, Sweden
Thessaloniki, Greece
València, Spain

North America
Detroit
Ilulissat, Greenland
Miami
Park City, Utah
Portland, Ore.
San Francisco
Tofino, British Columbia
Toronto

Oceania
Fremantle, Australia
Great Barrier Reef, Australia
Queenstown, New Zealand

South America
Bogotá
Salta, Argentina
São Paulo

Full list: https://time.com/collection/worlds-g...t-places-2022/

[10023]

This is like a travel list or what? I don’t get it.

I did see that Travel+Leisure just had Oaxaca and San Miguel de Allende as their #1 and #2 destinations. Viva la México!

[MAC123]

The title doesn't match the intent of the article, not even slightly

"50 extraordinary destinations to explore" is the intent

[pdxtex]

Portland needs all the good press it can get. Honestly its looking pretty good tho. On my dystopia scale, I only rate it three robocops/ten. Downtown retail is the pits but the pearl and nw look fine.

[Yuri]

That's so weird. I clicked on São Paulo and it's 15 lines talking about a new hotel opened recently. So that's it? People from all over the world should come to São Paulo in 2022 to check out a hotel?

About the others, this city in Northern Sweden seems like a provincial city in Russia. Not attractive. The one in Scotland is cute, but it's like 20 houses by the sea.

On the least, I've been just to São Paulo and Franschhoek. The Cape is one of the most fascinating regions in the world. People should definitely visit it.

[creamcityleo79]

Originally Posted by Yuri

That's so weird. I clicked on São Paulo and it's 15 lines talking about a new hotel opened recently. So that's it? People from all over the world should come to São Paulo in 2022 to check out a hotel?

About the others, this city in Northern Sweden seems like a provincial city in Russia. Not attractive. The one in Scotland is cute, but it's like 20 houses by the sea.

On the least, I've been just to São Paulo and Franschhoek. The Cape is one of the most fascinating regions in the world. People should definitely visit it.

Also, why are there icebreaker cruises going into the Arctic (for $30,000/person) and breaking up thick sea ice to go to the North Pole?!?!??! Don't we, like, need that ice to stick around as long as possible and not break it up when it's already endangered!?!? Seems kind of insane to me! Is it just me?

[JManc]

San Francisco and Detroit?

[twinpeaks]

Originally Posted by JManc

San Francisco and Detroit?

the Title of this thread need to be update to "50 extraordinary destinations to explore"

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by JManc

San Francisco and Detroit?

Both are great cities.

[Labtec]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

Both are great cities.

I haven't been to Detroit in many years but I was in San Francisco earlier in the year and was a bit surprised. I thought the city would have a lot more people walking out and about, but it was mostly empty (besides the numerous homeless) almost everywhere I went except for Chinatown and Pier39. It changed a lot since the 80s when I first visited as a kid, it felt unsafe. Hopefully, it will get better because the natural scenic beauty is wonderful.

[BnaBreaker]

This is JUST FOR 2022 Valencia and Park City so don't get a big head! On January 1st of 2023 you will spontaneously no longer be one of the world's greatest places. Hell, with the way these clickbait internet lists are produced, you may even find yourselves on the "World's Worst Places for 2023" list!

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by Labtec

I haven't been to Detroit in many years but I was in San Francisco earlier in the year and was a bit surprised. I thought the city would have a lot more people walking out and about, but it was mostly empty (besides the numerous homeless) almost everywhere I went except for Chinatown and Pier39. It changed a lot since the 80s when I first visited as a kid, it felt unsafe. Hopefully, it will get better because the natural scenic beauty is wonderful.

I was there last month and there's definitely not as much pedestrian activity as pre-pandemic, but you can say that about almost every city. I didn't feel unsafe, though. It felt busy enough that you didn't feel isolated walking around downtown.

[creamcityleo79]

Originally Posted by Labtec

I haven't been to Detroit in many years but I was in San Francisco earlier in the year and was a bit surprised. I thought the city would have a lot more people walking out and about, but it was mostly empty (besides the numerous homeless) almost everywhere I went except for Chinatown and Pier39. It changed a lot since the 80s when I first visited as a kid, it felt unsafe. Hopefully, it will get better because the natural scenic beauty is wonderful.

I'm going to give my perspective as someone who lived in Sacramento for 28 years and have been to San Francisco many times as an adult. I was just there in May for a couple days...and we walked and took public transportation EVERYWHERE). It wasn't scary except for one block near the Mission (which we survived just fine). The city seemed to be doing great! Shops and restaurants were bustling, the parks were more beautiful than ever, and, while we saw people who were homeless, it was actually only in certain areas. Other areas had no homeless people at all.

The biggest problem I had was in the Castro where there were too many straight people. We saw multiple people with strollers and it was just not what I wanted to see in a place that has been such a safe haven for so many queer people for sooo long! I guess things change; but, that was a little disheartening. Straight people colonizing gay spaces...

Speaking of strollers, I think that is where we have a big problem with the perception of San Francisco. There has been a lot of turnover of the type of people living in the city in recent decades...and I think that has really changed the perception of the city as a whole. Where you may have had most of the city population used to living in a somewhat gritty environment with urban issues (homelessness, drug use, crime, etc), now you have young families trying to come in and think it's a place to walk your kids around or take them for a ride in a stroller...and they walk by a couple men in thongs or a homeless person passed out on the street and think they live in hell. It's annoying.

Anyway, this is a counterpoint to the "unsafe, dirty, and crime-ridden" reputation that San Francisco has gotten as of late. I found the city to be as wonderful as ever; albeit, in a different way than before.

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by creamcityleo79

I was just there in May for a couple days...and we walked and took public transportation EVERYWHERE). It wasn't scary except for one block near the Mission (which we survived just fine). The city seemed to be doing great! Shops and restaurants were bustling, the parks were more beautiful than ever, and, while we saw people who were homeless, it was actually only in certain areas. Other areas had no homeless people at all.

Yeah, I don't recall seeing any homeless people during my trip last month, nor any tent cities. I haven't been since before the pandemic, but I'm typically in SF at least once per year and it seemed mostly normal to me, and certainly nothing approaching the recent media depictions. That said, there were a couple of noticeable exceptions:

1. There were a LOT of vacant storefronts, which is something I'm not used to seeing in SF. I was mostly downtown so it was obviously a circumstance due to the office worker and tourist focused nature of that part of the city. Nonetheless, it was very noticeable.
   
2. The other weird thing I noticed was in the Westfield mall on Market Street. There was an INSANE amount of security stationed everywhere in the mall. Every door, hallway, etc., had visible security. I've never seen that much security in a mall or department store in the U.S. It reminded me of shopping in Brazil.

[MAC123]

Originally Posted by creamcityleo79

The biggest problem I had was in the Castro where there were too many straight people. We saw multiple people with strollers and it was just not what I wanted to see in a place that has been such a safe haven for so many queer people for sooo long! I guess things change; but, that was a little disheartening. Straight people colonizing gay spaces... .

Is this supposed to be a joke?

[The North One]

Miami is pretty great.

[MolsonExport]

seemingly random cities. clickbait

Ilulissat, Greenland. You know it!

[dc_denizen]

Miami is not cool by any standard

[cabasse]

Originally Posted by dc_denizen

Miami is not cool by any standard

miami truly needs nobody stanning for it and there are a ton of angry assholes there, but "not cool" is not something i'd ever attribute to the place

wynwood arts district, art basel
miami beach art deco
cuban food, cuban coffee, i need a cortadito now
miami modern, arquitectonica, andres duany
the underline
merck records (rip)

[kool maudit]

Skellefteå??? I mean I heard they are getting a new battery factory, but... this is just a minor northern town. The terrain isn't dramatic, the town isn't historic... this is bizarre. This has to be the triumph of some cleantech PR firm or something. There are dozens of cities more interesting, and Sweden doesn't really even have dozens of cities.